I told him before the race, "Jim, don't go in the water."
I told him before the race, "Jim, don't go in the water."
Here's a question, that'll probably get swallowed up by the fascinating debate about what it means to be "down."
Mocko and Walmsley both fairly significant "heat acclimation" protocols in their final two weeks of leadup.
Both got absolutely torched today. Mocko probably just suffered because he's bigger, and if you read some of that literature in Epstein, there's just no way he was gonna dominate in the heat. Paula never won a summer thon, as far as I know.
But, one thing I'm wondering is if both have it a little backwards--both seemed to think it was important to do the heat work closer to the race. Jim was running 60+ minutes in 120+ degree heat in Phoenix earlier this week. And Mocko, talking about his "sauna protocol" on his show, said "if you're doing this a month out, you won't see much benefit." But intuitively, that seems problematic. Any kind of significant heat stimulus can take it out of you for awhile. I can't help but wonder if both suffered in part because they'd been taxed earlier in the week.
And on the sauna specifically--some of the benefits, as I understand, are happening within ~12 hours. But others are cumulative and long-term-type gains, almost like you'd get at altitude. And from personal experience, day 84 at altitude is an awful lot better than days 3-7. I realize the parallel isn't perfect, just wondering if he hasn't actually thought much about the science.
TL,DR: Do the heat further out from the race than these guys did?
one model wrote:
Here's a question, that'll probably get swallowed up by the fascinating debate about what it means to be "down."
Mocko and Walmsley both fairly significant "heat acclimation" protocols in their final two weeks of leadup.
Both got absolutely torched today. Mocko probably just suffered because he's bigger, and if you read some of that literature in Epstein, there's just no way he was gonna dominate in the heat. Paula never won a summer thon, as far as I know.
But, one thing I'm wondering is if both have it a little backwards--both seemed to think it was important to do the heat work closer to the race. Jim was running 60+ minutes in 120+ degree heat in Phoenix earlier this week. And Mocko, talking about his "sauna protocol" on his show, said "if you're doing this a month out, you won't see much benefit." But intuitively, that seems problematic. Any kind of significant heat stimulus can take it out of you for awhile. I can't help but wonder if both suffered in part because they'd been taxed earlier in the week.
And on the sauna specifically--some of the benefits, as I understand, are happening within ~12 hours. But others are cumulative and long-term-type gains, almost like you'd get at altitude. And from personal experience, day 84 at altitude is an awful lot better than days 3-7. I realize the parallel isn't perfect, just wondering if he hasn't actually thought much about the science.
TL,DR: Do the heat further out from the race than these guys did?
I don't disagree with this, but don't underestimate cockiness and relative inexperience at the distance. Jumbo clearly going out too fast.
Leader Ryan Sandes in and out of the final aid station in 10 seconds. 6 miles to go to the finish. Does this guy even have a pacer?
Jim who?
I routinely did heat training in the summers, always wearing a windbreaker for warmups and usually for steady runs, regardless the temperature. However I was always careful to not overdo it and get too warm.
Aside from that, Walmsley started out way too fast through the snow today,faster than a year ago, and his lead grew way too quickly.
https://mobile.twitter.com/iRunFar/status/878815626810281988/photo/1Squa!Skeeer! wrote:
Leader Ryan Sandes in and out of the final aid station in 10 seconds. 6 miles to go to the finish. Does this guy even have a pacer?
How about in a race with as much history as this, that has been run fast in good weather, how about running for the win, instead of the record? It's vanity. He can run, and win, easy. It's high heat and he still needs to set the record. Well, he might be above and beyond, but not that far.
Squa!Skeeer! wrote:
Leader Ryan Sandes in and out of the final aid station in 10 seconds. 6 miles to go to the finish. Does this guy even have a pacer?
The runners I talked to there today said the snow and mud in the high country was really tough to negotiate. he should have dialed it back a bot there.
broken arrow wrote:
The runners I talked to there today said the snow and mud in the high country was really tough to negotiate. he should have dialed it back a bot there.
He should have dialed it back a lot. Sandes winning time will be over 16 hours.
Places 4-9 in the mens race are within 9 minutes of each other at mile 90.7.
Go to the western states 100 facebook page for a better live video.
bruhtracker wrote:
Go to the western states 100 facebook page for a better live video.
THIS
iRunFar†@iRunFar 3m3 minutes ago
For those wondering about YiOu Wang, she took a looooong timeout on the trail before Peachstone (mile 70.7). She's now moving again. #WS100
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iRunFar†@iRunFar 6m6 minutes ago
Ryan Sandes has hit Robie Point. He has 1.3 miles until he wins Western States. #WS100
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iRunFar†@iRunFar 7m7 minutes ago
For anyone concerned, while Jim Walmsley dropped at the river. He appeared healthy and well. He'll be fine soon enough. #WS100
Here he comes!
Twitter updates wrote:
iRunFar†@iRunFar 3m3 minutes ago
For those wondering about YiOu Wang, she took a looooong timeout on the trail before Peachstone (mile 70.7). She's now moving again. #WS100
7 replies 3 retweets 91 likes
iRunFar†@iRunFar 6m6 minutes ago
Ryan Sandes has hit Robie Point. He has 1.3 miles until he wins Western States. #WS100
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iRunFar†@iRunFar 7m7 minutes ago
For anyone concerned, while Jim Walmsley dropped at the river. He appeared healthy and well. He'll be fine soon enough. #WS100
Walmsley is an enigma. He runs with ego, then is completely care free if things turn out the way he hope. He wasn't bother one bit that he got passed by more than 10 runners in 2016, including women's winner Kaci Lickteig.
UltraHack wrote:
https://d1e0pyuxwb29ot.cloudfront.net/ws100/2017/46.jpgSandes had the hat backwards. You know he is picking off Jim for the W.
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Death March wrote:
Walmsley is an enigma. He runs with ego, then is completely care free if things turn out the way he hope. He wasn't bother one bit that he got passed by more than 10 runners in 2016, including women's winner Kaci Lickteig.
if things DON'T turn out
