PS. We didn't put this in the article, but for the record, when Kyle called Jonathan back, he started the interview by squashing the doping rumors.
"That could not be further from the truth relative to doping. That’s not true at all, so not quite sure where that came from."
Then he said this later:
"You have my word, nothing even remotely close [to doping]."
If she’s injured, I don’t believe she or Coogan are obligated to put out a statement. Runners go dark all the time for various reasons, including injuries, yet these demands are not made in this manner. I would probably just ignore it.
They certainly aren't legally obligated, but I totally feel like they need to issue a statement. A basic level of professionalism needs to be expected from our stars. We should know what Athing Mu is doing, Parker, etc. The Orioles give out injury updates all the time.
LetsRun declaring that there should be some level of professionalism from anyone else is laughable.
Dude if the rumors had been true, it would be like - What's the point of even being a fan? I'm sure we'd all go back to being fans in a month or two. I think I once said, "If Kiprop is dirty, I'm done" as he was my favorite. Here I am.
There is a difference between whether I believe an athlete is clean and whether they are caught, which I think occurs only extremely rarely in proportion to the doping rife in the sport. Do I believe this athlete (or any top distance runner) is clean or that this athlete in particular competed clean in the ncaa? Hell no. But the antidoping authorities cannot catch water if they fell out of a boat absent some serious incompetence or hubris, and the USADA would likely conceal the result.
PS. We didn't put this in the article, but for the record, when Kyle called Jonathan back, he started the interview by squashing the doping rumors.
"That could not be further from the truth relative to doping. That’s not true at all, so not quite sure where that came from."
Then he said this later:
"You have my word, nothing even remotely close [to doping]."
It's going to be interesting to see how this ages
I guess that is the good news. The other news is this makes it 3 years out of 4 she has been injured in February/March I believe. Maybe she should avoid indoor track?
There is a difference between whether I believe an athlete is clean and whether they are caught, which I think occurs only extremely rarely in proportion to the doping rife in the sport. Do I believe this athlete (or any top distance runner) is clean or that this athlete in particular competed clean in the ncaa? Hell no. But the antidoping authorities cannot catch water if they fell out of a boat absent some serious incompetence or hubris, and the USADA would likely conceal the result.
How can anyone who loves the sport downvote this? Ok, some of you hate Rojo and blindly downvote everything he posts - you are stupid, considering context (like, you are on the site he started), but whatever, fine. But to not want updates on the sport you follow? I don't get it.
Why should Valby feel obligated to respond to rumors on LetsRun? Because she decided to pause her account for a few days and all the geniuses on LetsRun assume it’s due to doping? she owes you nothing.
Of course she owes me nothing, I would never suggest that she did! But good luck making money in entertainment with that attitude. I don't follow her on any social media, so she isn't making a lot of (any?) money for NB from me, but I'm confident that her contract would be a small fraction of what it is if she had no social media. If the SPORT wants to grow, if the BRANDS want to grow, the representatives need to keep fans updated. It's ridiculous that we don't know why someone hasn't competed in months, and have no idea when they might compete again. I want to know that my team's RB1 is out 6-8 weeks and likely available to play against Green Bay.
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I want to point something out about Valby's dad's comments. About a week or two before Shelby's press conference letsrun contacted her agent and asked what was going on and if the doping rumors were true. Shelby's agent (if memory serves) DENIED all doping allegations outright. Shelby said that they decided not to race and keep training because "training was going so well"
People really forget that Shelby and her agent were outright lying to the public up until the moment they had to come clean. She had been busted in January, and they went out and answered questions posed by letsrun saying she was nursing an injury and the doping claims had no truth to them.
Is Parker's dad lying? I don't know, and I want to be VERY clear that I am not accusing Parker of anything. I am just pointing out that just because someone's agent or dad says something's not true doesn't mean we take them at their word.
I am a huge Parker fan. She's fun to watch, has a great personality, tough as nails. She doesn't seem to take herself too seriously either. But fair or unfair, doping allegations have always followed her. The cross-training story is a highly unusual one. She also bounces back from injury very quickly, which is a result of extraordinary luck and skill, or something else.
With the sport being as dirty as it is, doping allegations are going to pop up. Athletes unfortunately have to take it on the chin. There's too much to be suspicious about, and not enough transparency from the sport. I hope Parker is not doping, and I only outright accuse people of doping when there are clear reasons to believe it (sus progression PAIRED with sus connections with sus people OR IDK, a positive test). Parker has given me no reason to doubt her character.
Deleting instagram is a weird move, but could have been done for a lot of reasons. But again, as an athlete when you move in mysterious ways, people are going to question that.
Hard not to draw some parallels to the Shedeur Sanders prank call situation. Like Sanders, Valby doesn't have a traditional agent. Sanders thus had his contact info on some massive NFL listserv instead of the agent's info leading to the prank call. Now, Valby has her dad as rep, and while that might be good financially, there's nobody there to tell her the optics of going dark for months and then deleting social media is going to make for some speculation. And now nobody's there to quickly dispel all this (if it should be dispelled). Even if you think Valby owes nothing, having the running world speculating she's doping is bad regardless of whether it's deserved or not.
It's not the running world. It's LetsRun. Too many people here confuse the two. Nobody else ran with this rumor, other than maybe a few irrelevants on Twitter. There were no threads on running forums. There were no threads on Reddit. There weren't even any comments referencing the LetsRun rumor.
The handful of doping dunces around here always carry too much weight. That's how you get asinine questions at post race pressers.
I am disappointed that Valby's father specifically responded. A veteran agent would have known better.
I follow athletes from numerous sports on Instagram. It is not overly unusual for them to briefly pause their Instagram. Maybe that is not understood around here. Last year a very attractive female swimmer from a different country had great success at NCAAs. She posted a couple of times regarding SwimSwam comments. Then a few semi-mean comments appeared on SwimSwam. She was obviously stunned and hurt. Her Instagram disappeared. Restored a couple of months later. Coincidentally or not, she had another year of eligibility but did not use it.
You know what’s crazy about this? Were there demands made of Schweizer when she didn’t race indoors this year? Did anyone contact her coach and agent? She certainly wasn’t active on her social media…probably because she was depressed that she couldn’t race. I don’t recall seeing any endless speculation about it. I’m only using Karissa as an example. This happens all the time with these pro runners, and Valby is being held to a different standard this time.
I should clarify that I don't have an opinion on whether Valby is clean, just that the testing policies are designed to allow microdosing and it's questionable whether legal methods (altitude tents requiring a lot of time and money) can achieve the same results.
I love how LR posted an article including confirmation that Parker's IG is back up, without actually fact-checking that. Surprise surprise, it's not back.
There is a difference between whether I believe an athlete is clean and whether they are caught, which I think occurs only extremely rarely in proportion to the doping rife in the sport. Do I believe this athlete (or any top distance runner) is clean or that this athlete in particular competed clean in the ncaa? Hell no. But the antidoping authorities cannot catch water if they fell out of a boat absent some serious incompetence or hubris, and the USADA would likely conceal the result.
If athletes are doping,its because they have no choice.Go hard,or go home. I havent followed her,or her career to know whether she's clean or not. But it seems i was right when i suggested she was injured.
Well then the good thing is she will come back magically faster than ever without any lag time in regaining full fitness. The magic arc trainer never fails.
You know what’s crazy about this? Were there demands made of Schweizer when she didn’t race indoors this year? Did anyone contact her coach and agent? She certainly wasn’t active on her social media…probably because she was depressed that she couldn’t race. I don’t recall seeing any endless speculation about it. I’m only using Karissa as an example. This happens all the time with these pro runners, and Valby is being held to a different standard this time.
Schweizer doesn’t play the same “look at me” social media game that Valby does (see someone’s post above of Valby’s ‘thirst trap’ photo from Florida two days ago). It’s fine for Valby to do that, but you just can’t equate the two. That said, I do agree that if she wants to take a break from posting on any of her platforms, it shouldn’t be anyone’s place to criticize her for it or to leap immediately to crazy accusations.
I love how LR posted an article including confirmation that Parker's IG is back up, without actually fact-checking that. Surprise surprise, it's not back.
It's not the running world. It's LetsRun. Too many people here confuse the two. Nobody else ran with this rumor, other than maybe a few irrelevants on Twitter. There were no threads on running forums. There were no threads on Reddit. There weren't even any comments referencing the LetsRun rumor.
The handful of doping dunces around here always carry too much weight. That's how you get asinine questions at post race pressers.
I am disappointed that Valby's father specifically responded. A veteran agent would have known better.
I follow athletes from numerous sports on Instagram. It is not overly unusual for them to briefly pause their Instagram. Maybe that is not understood around here. Last year a very attractive female swimmer from a different country had great success at NCAAs. She posted a couple of times regarding SwimSwam comments. Then a few semi-mean comments appeared on SwimSwam. She was obviously stunned and hurt. Her Instagram disappeared. Restored a couple of months later. Coincidentally or not, she had another year of eligibility but did not use it.
This is the biggest elite running forum there is, and the community that follows elite running is not that large. Even if you want to say it wasn’t big enough to warrant him responding, her missing the Ten and ghosting everything since the Boston meet is not what you’d like to see out of a high-profile athlete. She is not the only athlete who is too secretive, but this might’ve been the most extreme example for a Western athlete that people care about.
It's not the running world. It's LetsRun. Too many people here confuse the two. Nobody else ran with this rumor, other than maybe a few irrelevants on Twitter. There were no threads on running forums. There were no threads on Reddit. There weren't even any comments referencing the LetsRun rumor.
The handful of doping dunces around here always carry too much weight. That's how you get asinine questions at post race pressers.
I am disappointed that Valby's father specifically responded. A veteran agent would have known better.
I follow athletes from numerous sports on Instagram. It is not overly unusual for them to briefly pause their Instagram. Maybe that is not understood around here. Last year a very attractive female swimmer from a different country had great success at NCAAs. She posted a couple of times regarding SwimSwam comments. Then a few semi-mean comments appeared on SwimSwam. She was obviously stunned and hurt. Her Instagram disappeared. Restored a couple of months later. Coincidentally or not, she had another year of eligibility but did not use it.
This is the biggest elite running forum there is, and the community that follows elite running is not that large. Even if you want to say it wasn’t big enough to warrant him responding, her missing the Ten and ghosting everything since the Boston meet is not what you’d like to see out of a high-profile athlete. She is not the only athlete who is too secretive, but this might’ve been the most extreme example for a Western athlete that people care about.
Secretive?
‘Open’ with everything might be what you’re going for here, but ‘secretive’ seems a bit much.
They no doubt have contractual obligations with sponsorship deals that they have to complete, but as for the rest of it, that’s probably their business as far as the game goes
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