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4 years ago 02/07/2022 7:26pm EST

re: Noyankee

Noyankee wrote:
poker face wrote:
Except, the New Alt Left does not approve of common sense . Sad
It’s so funny how they freak out over people who’d rather not get the experiment. I mean it’s really unbelievable how it affects them. They can’t explain it. Whether or not we are injecting that nonsense into our veins has no bearing on what they do or how they live, yet they freak out. It’s really a crazy dynamic. The only possible explanation is jealousy, there really isn’t another option. I’d love to hear one of them actually explain their anger but they can’t. What a bunch of freaks.

Look it you can't articulate the opposite opinion of yours, then you really shouldn't have an opinion.

Anti-Vax arguments:

* this is an experimental vaccine and we don't know it's long term side affects

* I'm young and not likely to get extremely sick with covid

* all vaccines are bad and are the cause of all sorts of modern health issues

* covid is not real

* the vaccine is killing people

Of these, I think only the first two are valid concerns.

The Pro-Vax arguments:

* the vaccine has been given to billions of people. The side effects - which some people do experience - have been less than a covid infection.

* While you might not get extremely sick, you might spread to others who will

* the more the virus spreads, the more it mutates. Some of these mutations have been more dangerous or more transmissible than the original strain.

* There is no science that vaccines are dangerous. The side effects of most vaccines happen in the first month or two. We've already vaccinated billions.

It's not that people are jealous. They are angry that the virus is lasting so long and continuing to disrupt our life. Personally, I'm against a mandate, but I am tired of bro-science and the complete lack of rational discourse from both the left and the right.

I did not want to take the vaccine. I try to never take vaccines. Unless I really have to. In this case, I weighed the risks, and it was an easy choice. I've been vaccinated, been boosters. I do worry about the long-term effects of the vaccine. While I believe there is no solid science of other vaccines being bad, this is a new type and it does concern me. If this was not a global pandemic that has killed millions I would not have taken it.

If you have a different opinion, then I respect that, but I'd hope it's not just groupthink and sticking with your tribe that drives your choice. For all the talk about not being a sheeple, there are many spouting that who are, in fact, just that.

4 years ago 02/07/2022 7:51pm EST

re: poker face

poker face wrote:
my prediction wrote:
One way out of this mess is for society to collectively make a few small adjustments in their interactions to better align themselves with modern sensibilities
These ideas can be applied to a broad range of interactions, but to take a comedy act, by way of example:
A comedian produces their work in a 2-stage process. In the first stage, they develop their act without accounting for whether or not the material that they produce will offend anyone, thus maximizing creative output. In the second stage, the comedian submits the raw material from the first stage to a Diversity, Inclusion and Equity (DIE) committee which problematizes the material, makes edits accordingly and produces the final product, thus maximizing sensitivity to a diverse audience.
Due to variations in delivery and the general complexity of language, a sanitized act may still evoke inappropriate laughter. Therefore, each member of the audience must employ a real-time filter that they engage as they receive each joke during a performance. If a joke doesn't pass the filter, any natural laughter response is suppressed. The filter asks probing questions to decide if the joke is really funny. Was the joke fact-checked? Did the comedian cite sources? Could the joke be harmful to marginalized communities? Would laughing promote white supremacy? What would an ally do (WWAD)? This "absorb, filter, react" process is not very different from the now commonplace practice of inserting the correct, but perhaps nonintuitive, gender pronoun into speech as it's being generated.
Except, the New Alt Left does not approve of common sense . Sad

there is a slight chance that the "laughter filter "is a joke. though i guess in some way it's "common sense" to one of those that arent new left?

I guess a good thing about Rogan's podcast is near anything can be argued about on this thread and somehow be on topic?

4 years ago 02/07/2022 7:58pm EST

re: Ridgemonter

Ridgemonter wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
It’s so funny how they freak out over people who’d rather not get the experiment. I mean it’s really unbelievable how it affects them. They can’t explain it. Whether or not we are injecting that nonsense into our veins has no bearing on what they do or how they live, yet they freak out. It’s really a crazy dynamic. The only possible explanation is jealousy, there really isn’t another option. I’d love to hear one of them actually explain their anger but they can’t. What a bunch of freaks.
Look it you can't articulate the opposite opinion of yours, then you really shouldn't have an opinion.
Anti-Vax arguments:
* this is an experimental vaccine and we don't know it's long term side affects
* I'm young and not likely to get extremely sick with covid
* all vaccines are bad and are the cause of all sorts of modern health issues
* covid is not real
* the vaccine is killing people
Of these, I think only the first two are valid concerns.
The Pro-Vax arguments:
* the vaccine has been given to billions of people. The side effects - which some people do experience - have been less than a covid infection.
* While you might not get extremely sick, you might spread to others who will
* the more the virus spreads, the more it mutates. Some of these mutations have been more dangerous or more transmissible than the original strain.
* There is no science that vaccines are dangerous. The side effects of most vaccines happen in the first month or two. We've already vaccinated billions.
It's not that people are jealous. They are angry that the virus is lasting so long and continuing to disrupt our life. Personally, I'm against a mandate, but I am tired of bro-science and the complete lack of rational discourse from both the left and the right.
I did not want to take the vaccine. I try to never take vaccines. Unless I really have to. In this case, I weighed the risks, and it was an easy choice. I've been vaccinated, been boosters. I do worry about the long-term effects of the vaccine. While I believe there is no solid science of other vaccines being bad, this is a new type and it does concern me. If this was not a global pandemic that has killed millions I would not have taken it.
If you have a different opinion, then I respect that, but I'd hope it's not just groupthink and sticking with your tribe that drives your choice. For all the talk about not being a sheeple, there are many spouting that who are, in fact, just that.

The only anti-experimental vax argument is against mandates. Nobody cares otherwise. It’s the experimental must get vaxxed argument that is perplexing, as people who don’t get injected with this unknown concoction have zero effect on others.

Experimental-vaxxed people are jealous of those who wised up, pure and simple. There is no other plausible explanation. None.