Official Israel vs Hamas thread

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Shoko Asahara wrote:

Nice straw man, and weird comparison between a country and a religion.

You claim that I only hold the position that I hold because I'm a racist and then claim "straw man" when I point out that palestinians aren't a race.

It would be equally idiotic for me to call you a racist for your hatred of the Russians.

Palestine isn't a country. It has never been a country.

No one on earth would have called themselves "palestinian" 100 years ago.

I'm judging the 2 sides based on the morality of their behavior.

You anti-Israeli idiots think there's 3 sides for some reason. Any Israeli citizen that's raped or tortured to death had it coming for being Israeli and any palestinian who gets killed because Hamas had a bomb factory next to their apartment is an innocent victim of racism and Israeli aggression.

Your position is absurd and you are disgusting.

Shoko Asahara wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You claim that I only hold the position that I hold because I'm a racist and then claim "straw man" when I point out that palestinians aren't a race.

It would be equally idiotic for me to call you a racist for your hatred of the Russians.

Palestine isn't a country. It has never been a country.

No one on earth would have called themselves "palestinian" 100 years ago.

I'm judging the 2 sides based on the morality of their behavior.

You anti-Israeli idiots think there's 3 sides for some reason. Any Israeli citizen that's raped or tortured to death had it coming for being Israeli and any palestinian who gets killed because Hamas had a bomb factory next to their apartment is an innocent victim of racism and Israeli aggression.

Your position is absurd and you are disgusting.

I don't claim you only hold your position because you're a racist. I also think you hold your positions because you're a clueless moron and a disgusting subhuman ghoul. But, that's neither here nor there.

The United Nations would disagree with you, and recognizes the State of Palestine, as do some 100 other countries.

120 years ago, nobody would have considered themselves Israeli, seeing as how the Kingdom of Israel hadn't existed for 2500 years. Are you arguing that because the Kingdom of Israel had a Jewish majority in 700 B.C.E. that the land is rightfully theirs? Are you going to give up your home to the Native Americans that lived there in 700 B.C.E.? It is rightfully theirs, right?

You think that every person living in the State of Palestine, including the Gaza Strip and the West Bank is deserving of death at the hands of the innocent Israelis simply for being born. That position is absurd, contrary to the Geneva Convention, and makes you a truly disgusting person.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You think gang rape and burning babies alive is justified if the victims are Jewish and I'm the ghoul...

lol.

I'm all for a Palestinian state. I said there's never been one and that palestinian as an identity didn't exist prior to the 20th century.

Your buddies in Hamas oppose the two state solution. You yourself parroted the genocidal "from the river to the sea" position.

The Kingdoms of Israel and Judah were Jewish states. There have been Jews living on the land for 3000 years.

They didn't steal anyones land. After zionism began the zionists bought the land they moved onto. Then after WW1 the British promised the Jews and the arabs (who didnt think of themselves as "palestinians") their own states on the same land. Once the arabs got wind of the plan to give the dirty Jews their own state the violence started. ALL of the land the arabs lost to Israel was lost in wars of aggression started by the arabs against the Jews.

You openly advocate for the genocide of the Jews in Israel and then call me disgusting for holding a position that you invented.

I have never called for the death of all of the palestinians. I have never said they deserve death. I have said that their deaths are the fault of Hamas and you are so blinded by your anti-semitism that you can't fathom anyone supporting the Jews' right to defend themselves.

Shoko Asahara wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You think gang rape and burning babies alive is justified if the victims are Jewish and I'm the ghoul...

lol.

I'm all for a Palestinian state. I said there's never been one and that palestinian as an identity didn't exist prior to the 20th century.

Your buddies in Hamas oppose the two state solution. You yourself parroted the genocidal "from the river to the sea" position.

The Kingdoms of Israel and Judah were Jewish states. There have been Jews living on the land for 3000 years.

They didn't steal anyones land. After zionism began the zionists bought the land they moved onto. Then after WW1 the British promised the Jews and the arabs (who didnt think of themselves as "palestinians") their own states on the same land. Once the arabs got wind of the plan to give the dirty Jews their own state the violence started. ALL of the land the arabs lost to Israel was lost in wars of aggression started by the arabs against the Jews.

You openly advocate for the genocide of the Jews in Israel and then call me disgusting for holding a position that you invented.

I have never called for the death of all of the palestinians. I have never said they deserve death. I have said that their deaths are the fault of Hamas and you are so blinded by your anti-semitism that you can't fathom anyone supporting the Jews' right to defend themselves.

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about what I said that simply aren’t true. Thinking that Israel has carte blanche to drop bombs on Palestine regardless of civilian costs because there may be somebody in Hamas nearby is what makes you a ghoul and Israelis war criminals. (Not to mention the whole collective punishment aspects of Israel’s siege) This is not a difficult concept.

Shoko Asahara wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You think gang rape and burning babies alive is justified if the victims are Jewish and I'm the ghoul...

lol.

I'm all for a Palestinian state. I said there's never been one and that palestinian as an identity didn't exist prior to the 20th century.

Your buddies in Hamas oppose the two state solution. You yourself parroted the genocidal "from the river to the sea" position.

The Kingdoms of Israel and Judah were Jewish states. There have been Jews living on the land for 3000 years.

They didn't steal anyones land. After zionism began the zionists bought the land they moved onto. Then after WW1 the British promised the Jews and the arabs (who didnt think of themselves as "palestinians") their own states on the same land. Once the arabs got wind of the plan to give the dirty Jews their own state the violence started. ALL of the land the arabs lost to Israel was lost in wars of aggression started by the arabs against the Jews.

You openly advocate for the genocide of the Jews in Israel and then call me disgusting for holding a position that you invented.

I have never called for the death of all of the palestinians. I have never said they deserve death. I have said that their deaths are the fault of Hamas and you are so blinded by your anti-semitism that you can't fathom anyone supporting the Jews' right to defend themselves.

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about what I said that simply aren’t true. Thinking that Israel has carte blanche to drop bombs on Palestine regardless of civilian costs because there may be somebody in Hamas nearby is what makes you a ghoul and Israelis war criminals. (Not to mention the whole collective punishment aspects of Israel’s siege) This is not a difficult concept.

Trollminator wrote:

Shoko Asahara wrote:

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about what I said that simply aren’t true. Thinking that Israel has carte blanche to drop bombs on Palestine regardless of civilian costs because there may be somebody in Hamas nearby is what makes you a ghoul and Israelis war criminals. (Not to mention the whole collective punishment aspects of Israel’s siege) This is not a difficult concept.

I think a lot of people blindly accept what Israel is saying and doing because of their affiliation with the US and because they are a democratic state. They've been reckless and I simply refuse to outright believe they are carrying out this military response with the safety of civilians in mind. No way. We have no clue how they come up with their thousands of targets and in many cases I can't imagine they know for sure that Hamas is there. If they are warning about airstrikes, do you think Hamas is going to stick around?

Shoko Asahara wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You think gang rape and burning babies alive is justified if the victims are Jewish and I'm the ghoul...

lol.

I'm all for a Palestinian state. I said there's never been one and that palestinian as an identity didn't exist prior to the 20th century.

Your buddies in Hamas oppose the two state solution. You yourself parroted the genocidal "from the river to the sea" position.

The Kingdoms of Israel and Judah were Jewish states. There have been Jews living on the land for 3000 years.

They didn't steal anyones land. After zionism began the zionists bought the land they moved onto. Then after WW1 the British promised the Jews and the arabs (who didnt think of themselves as "palestinians") their own states on the same land. Once the arabs got wind of the plan to give the dirty Jews their own state the violence started. ALL of the land the arabs lost to Israel was lost in wars of aggression started by the arabs against the Jews.

You openly advocate for the genocide of the Jews in Israel and then call me disgusting for holding a position that you invented.

I have never called for the death of all of the palestinians. I have never said they deserve death. I have said that their deaths are the fault of Hamas and you are so blinded by your anti-semitism that you can't fathom anyone supporting the Jews' right to defend themselves.

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about what I said that simply aren’t true. Thinking that Israel has carte blanche to drop bombs on Palestine regardless of civilian costs because there may be somebody in Hamas nearby is what makes you a ghoul and Israelis war criminals. (Not to mention the whole collective punishment aspects of Israel’s siege) This is not a difficult concept.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

I think a lot of people blindly accept what Israel is saying and doing because of their affiliation with the US and because they are a democratic state. They've been reckless and I simply refuse to outright believe they are carrying out this military response with the safety of civilians in mind. No way. We have no clue how they come up with their thousands of targets and in many cases I can't imagine they know for sure that Hamas is there. If they are warning about airstrikes, do you think Hamas is going to stick around?

You're hopelessly naive.

I suppose you think the 9/11 hijackers were hoping to survive the crashes as well?

These animals are mentally ill. They believe will of their shriveled black hearts that if they die trying to kill Jews they will get into paradise.

It's a death cult. They do not give a flying f*ck about their own lives or anyone else's. Dead women and children are great PR. (you can see how well it works on YOU).

If the dead kid is a good muslim GREAT! They did them a favor and they got to paradise early.

If they're not who cares all non-death cult members aren't even human.

It's a win win for your buddies.

Trollminator wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You're hopelessly naive.

I suppose you think the 9/11 hijackers were hoping to survive the crashes as well?

These animals are mentally ill. They believe will of their shriveled black hearts that if they die trying to kill Jews they will get into paradise.

It's a death cult. They do not give a flying f*ck about their own lives or anyone else's. Dead women and children are great PR. (you can see how well it works on YOU).

If the dead kid is a good muslim GREAT! They did them a favor and they got to paradise early.

If they're not who cares all non-death cult members aren't even human.

It's a win win for your buddies.

You keep missing the point over and over with your repetitive statements. Israel has been committing war crimes. They are literally doing everything Hamas hoped for and helping recruit housands of new terrorists for them. Hamas leadership is not in Palestine and won't be dismantled. Israel has no game plan for governing Gaza. Hamas or worse will walk right back into Gaza, regroup, and plan to do much worse to Israel in the future. Meanwhile, Israel is losing international support by the day and either they may be prosecuted for war crimes or if shielded from it they will have dismantled the western concept of international law. Israel is supposed to be better than this. As I've pointed out before, there are better and more effective strategies.

You're an emotional person who can't think straight most of the time. This collective revenge is doing much more harm to Israel than good.

Trollminator wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You're hopelessly naive.

I suppose you think the 9/11 hijackers were hoping to survive the crashes as well?

These animals are mentally ill. They believe will of their shriveled black hearts that if they die trying to kill Jews they will get into paradise.

It's a death cult. They do not give a flying f*ck about their own lives or anyone else's. Dead women and children are great PR. (you can see how well it works on YOU).

If the dead kid is a good muslim GREAT! They did them a favor and they got to paradise early.

If they're not who cares all non-death cult members aren't even human.

It's a win win for your buddies.

You keep missing the point over and over with your repetitive statements. Israel has been committing war crimes. They are literally doing everything Hamas hoped for and helping recruit housands of new terrorists for them. Hamas leadership is not in Palestine and won't be dismantled. Israel has no game plan for governing Gaza. Hamas or worse will walk right back into Gaza, regroup, and plan to do much worse to Israel in the future. Meanwhile, Israel is losing international support by the day and either they may be prosecuted for war crimes or if shielded from it they will have dismantled the western concept of international law. Israel is supposed to be better than this. As I've pointed out before, there are better and more effective strategies.

You're an emotional person who can't think straight most of the time. This collective revenge is doing much more harm to Israel than good.