This thread was originally titled, "Incredible development in the $612,000 Transcon Goodge run, currently ongoing" but the new title is more descriptive. The description of the run is here.
I'm seeing on his instagram that they were at 7.5miles at 4:45am. 9hrs later we are at 32.5miles. Not good. Unless there was a sizable break somewhere in there.
Wondering if he goes late into the night to reach 60 or if they call it short today.
has done a piece to camera. Keeps falling asleep while walking. Weaving all over the road. No energy. They don't know what's wrong.
Last three days were the quickest, most aggressive multidaying you'll see. So maybe the check's arrived today for all that largesse
"they don't know what's wrong" - Trained to run 40-50 mile days @ 10 hrs / day. "Running" 55-65 mile days @ 18 hrs / day. No amount of "adapting" can close that gap.
@rojo: Sneakers has quite the psychological complex going on here but look beyond that and it has also been factually incorrect in peculiar ways. That could make one question if it has a motive here. Reference my earlier response regarding the data Sneakers claims to download and analyze but then it clearly does not realize that *speed* is not a field in the dataset it is loudly posturing as such an expert on. Sneakers posts a lot and its message is always along the lines of: nothing to see here, ignore anyone else looking at the data, Sneakers knows best, PJ's run is totally legit.. but I have not seen it post any code or anything that indicates it has done any such analysis. The more I see of its posts, the more I think it's just gaslighting here.
I wrote and posted python code that uses the available data from Strava to calculate speed at every point and aligns all the datapoints for heartrate, cadence, speed, grade, etc. Anyone who wants to look at the data can run the code and check it out. I am not saying anything is conclusive, but to me, this whole stunt looks fishy in more than one way.
How about this: go to PJ's own website () and look at the "Max pace" for Day 9 ... 4:47 min/mile pace. Strange eh?
@rojo: Sneakers has quite the psychological complex going on here but look beyond that and it has also been factually incorrect in peculiar ways. That could make one question if it has a motive here. Reference my earlier response regarding the data Sneakers claims to download and analyze but then it clearly does not realize that *speed* is not a field in the dataset it is loudly posturing as such an expert on. Sneakers posts a lot and its message is always along the lines of: nothing to see here, ignore anyone else looking at the data, Sneakers knows best, PJ's run is totally legit.. but I have not seen it post any code or anything that indicates it has done any such analysis. The more I see of its posts, the more I think it's just gaslighting here.
I wrote and posted python code that uses the available data from Strava to calculate speed at every point and aligns all the datapoints for heartrate, cadence, speed, grade, etc. Anyone who wants to look at the data can run the code and check it out. I am not saying anything is conclusive, but to me, this whole stunt looks fishy in more than one way.
How about this: go to PJ's own website () and look at the "Max pace" for Day 9 ... 4:47 min/mile pace. Strange eh?
I think you need to take a few steps back and realize I was just being courteous to you. Well, kid's gloves off. You only know the basics and your python code is convoluted and very incomplete. I do it much more elegantly and with much more control. No manual two stepping merging.
The fact that you still think PJ went 50 mph from the data and think he went 4:47 min/mile pace on Day 9 shows that you have no idea about data processing and no idea what it means to apply a Kalman filter to GPS coordinates to minimize the GPS position errors, which is incredibly important for 1 second interval data.
Well, he’s called it for today with just 35 miles. He sounds and looks like someone who knows we’re near the end here. I guess we will see what he can do tomorrow morning but this may conclude on it’s own here in short order.
he also posted that he’s registered again for eastern states 100 this summer which is odd to do in the middle of a transcon and would seem to signal that he’s thinking of the future and no longer the present
@rojo: Sneakers has quite the psychological complex going on here but look beyond that and it has also been factually incorrect in peculiar ways. That could make one question if it has a motive here. Reference my earlier response regarding the data Sneakers claims to download and analyze but then it clearly does not realize that *speed* is not a field in the dataset it is loudly posturing as such an expert on. Sneakers posts a lot and its message is always along the lines of: nothing to see here, ignore anyone else looking at the data, Sneakers knows best, PJ's run is totally legit.. but I have not seen it post any code or anything that indicates it has done any such analysis. The more I see of its posts, the more I think it's just gaslighting here.
I wrote and posted python code that uses the available data from Strava to calculate speed at every point and aligns all the datapoints for heartrate, cadence, speed, grade, etc. Anyone who wants to look at the data can run the code and check it out. I am not saying anything is conclusive, but to me, this whole stunt looks fishy in more than one way.
How about this: go to PJ's own website () and look at the "Max pace" for Day 9 ... 4:47 min/mile pace. Strange eh?
Well, he’s called it for today with just 35 miles. He sounds and looks like someone who knows we’re near the end here. I guess we will see what he can do tomorrow morning but this may conclude on it’s own here in short order.
he also posted that he’s registered again for eastern states 100 this summer which is odd to do in the middle of a transcon and would seem to signal that he’s thinking of the future and no longer the present
If he carries on running like this on that ankle he'll be lucky to be competing in anything this summer.
and such odd crew videos. He gives a few words to his curtailment, and then straight onto talking about a care home and barbed wire. Totally random, what would we care? We want to know how he's doing, but he won't give out the good stuff to his 325k adoring fans.
And Rob's posts becoming unhinged. Demob happy, all laughter and joy. Says it was the best day of the trip for atmosphere.
This could all become a fascinating study into what makes humans tick now... his media crew put up pics of him hobbling on sticks and then take the mickey in captions.
@rojo: Sneakers has quite the psychological complex going on here but look beyond that and it has also been factually incorrect in peculiar ways. That could make one question if it has a motive here. Reference my earlier response regarding the data Sneakers claims to download and analyze but then it clearly does not realize that *speed* is not a field in the dataset it is loudly posturing as such an expert on. Sneakers posts a lot and its message is always along the lines of: nothing to see here, ignore anyone else looking at the data, Sneakers knows best, PJ's run is totally legit.. but I have not seen it post any code or anything that indicates it has done any such analysis. The more I see of its posts, the more I think it's just gaslighting here.
I wrote and posted python code that uses the available data from Strava to calculate speed at every point and aligns all the datapoints for heartrate, cadence, speed, grade, etc. Anyone who wants to look at the data can run the code and check it out. I am not saying anything is conclusive, but to me, this whole stunt looks fishy in more than one way.
How about this: go to PJ's own website () and look at the "Max pace" for Day 9 ... 4:47 min/mile pace. Strange eh?
he also posted that he’s registered again for eastern states 100 this summer which is odd to do in the middle of a transcon and would seem to signal that he’s thinking of the future and no longer the present
ES100 sells out so he probably got pulled from the waitlist today.
In any case, today looked rough to say the least. Maybe he’s done, or maybe tomorrow will be the “rise from the ashes” moment Cockerell predicted. Maybe Goodge, Balenger, and Choi will pace him for a 100 mile day.
Fair point about the waitlist, maybe that’s indeed what happened.
crew chief says tomorrow is back to business as usual. He was in absolutely rough shape today. There’s just no way he’s going to be fine in the morning
I think you need to take a few steps back and realize I was just being courteous to you. Well, kid's gloves off. You only know the basics and your python code is convoluted and very incomplete. I do it much more elegantly and with much more control. No manual two stepping merging. The fact that you still think PJ went 50 mph from the data and think he went 4:47 min/mile pace on Day 9 shows that you have no idea about data processing and no idea what it means to apply a Kalman filter to GPS coordinates to minimize the GPS position errors, which is incredibly important for 1 second interval data.
Of all of Sneakers' assholery, this is not the comment to downvote so hard. Obviously a GPS error of 10m can result in the occasional spike if the drift is just right, so some degree of smoothing or maybe a 20 second moving average should be employed.
But this specific case of sub-5 mile pace on Day 9 is pretty explainable - he was going nice and slow up to Mingus Summit outside of Jerome, crests the top and turns on the gas for 20 seconds. His cadence goes to 200, his HR is climbing by the second, and then he slows down after 100 feet.
That's a tree, the forest is the sub 9 minute miling he does for the following couple hours, something Kostelnick couldn't/wouldn't ever do on his downhills.
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Of all of Sneakers' assholery, this is not the comment to downvote so hard. Obviously a GPS error of 10m can result in the occasional spike if the drift is just right, so some degree of smoothing or maybe a 20 second moving average should be employed.
But this specific case of sub-5 mile pace on Day 9 is pretty explainable - he was going nice and slow up to Mingus Summit outside of Jerome, crests the top and turns on the gas for 20 seconds. His cadence goes to 200, his HR is climbing by the second, and then he slows down after 100 feet.
That's a tree, the forest is the sub 9 minute miling he does for the following couple hours, something Kostelnick couldn't/wouldn't ever do on his downhills.
Agree. Putting cadence aside, his splits are otherworldly and put even the world record holder to shame sometimes (as willvc pointed out). Even if the heart rate data and cadence weren't fishy, the splits he is hitting up long climbs and so consistently indicate he is either much fitter than the record holder, he is going to flame out soon, or something here is not on the up and up
Who is this Choi guy anyway? Seems like some dude who just places a camera in his face each day and places it on instragram while he jogs slowly, while he wears a 1990s baseball cap somewhat crooked, backwards and talks in cool hip rhyme. Am I missing anything?
Too bad he made “Paul hits the Wall” run too hard this morning. Seems to have crushed his spirit with a walk day.
