Noyankee wrote:
Hamas needs to be eliminated. No rational person would support those who slaughter babies. Games up for Hamas.
Exactly, they need to be eliminated, not multiplied.
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You’re the genius that said Israel wasn’t going to leave any Hamas alive, then stated that all of Hamas leadership was living abroad. If you don’t like people pointing out the inconsistencies in your pseudologic, stop saying stupid things.
What have a bunch of Palestinian children ever done to warrant being starved to death, dying of dehydration, or being blown to pieces by Israeli airstrikes? They didn’t elect Hamas. They simply had the misfortune of being born in Palestine.
Nothing Hamas did can justify Israeli war crimes any more than Israel’s illegal settlements justify Hamas’ violence.
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Vast majority of Americans want a ceasefire. Do it, and stop funding Israeli wars with OUR money.
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I am a Trump guy wrote:
Vast majority of Americans want a ceasefire. Do it, and stop funding Israeli wars with OUR money.
The vast majority of Americans couldn't find Israel on a map if you put a gun to their head. Who gives a sh*t what they think about a subject they know absolutely nothing to death.
The Americans killed more civilians in Iraq alone than Israel has killed in all 78 years of its existence combined.
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agip wrote:
On the death counts....
You would believe that we are nearing that toll of Gazans in...around two weeks. The 'official' death toll of gazans from Gazan officials is 8000+ and no doubt will pass 10,000 next week at the latest.
I'd like you to be extremely hesitant accepting any number in this war. I'm no expert, and neither are you, but our BS meters should be up and going at max strength right now.
No one is asking you to believe Hamas. However, read all of this with an open mind.
Regarding death tolls in Gaza versus the Ukraine, there are a few notable differences. Gaza doesn’t have an air force, an actual army or a navy to defend. Ukraine does.
The density population density of the Ukraine is 164 people per square mile.
The density population density of Gaza is 21,000 people per square mile. Huge difference.
Israel has dropped 18,000 bombs on Gaza since October 7th. Incidentally Oct 7th is now a lot closer to four weeks than the around two weeks you’ve stated.
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Avner wrote:
agip wrote:
On the death counts....
You would believe that we are nearing that toll of Gazans in...around two weeks. The 'official' death toll of gazans from Gazan officials is 8000+ and no doubt will pass 10,000 next week at the latest.
I'd like you to be extremely hesitant accepting any number in this war. I'm no expert, and neither are you, but our BS meters should be up and going at max strength right now.
No one is asking you to believe Hamas. However, read all of this with an open mind.
Regarding death tolls in Gaza versus the Ukraine, there are a few notable differences. Gaza doesn’t have an air force, an actual army or a navy to defend. Ukraine does.
The density population density of the Ukraine is 164 people per square mile.
The density population density of Gaza is 21,000 people per square mile. Huge difference.
Israel has dropped 18,000 bombs on Gaza since October 7th. Incidentally Oct 7th is now a lot closer to four weeks than the around two weeks you’ve stated.
Israel has at this point committed numerous war crimes, and the US continues to give them the green light despite most Americans wanting a ceasefire. What I see here are attempted justifications for those war crimes, which shows that even war crimes have been politicized.
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Newname wrote:
These people are evil racist supremacists
Says the person who has been banned from here many times for being racist.
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Trollminator wrote:
Avner wrote:
No one is asking you to believe Hamas. However, read all of this with an open mind.
Regarding death tolls in Gaza versus the Ukraine, there are a few notable differences. Gaza doesn’t have an air force, an actual army or a navy to defend. Ukraine does.
The density population density of the Ukraine is 164 people per square mile.
The density population density of Gaza is 21,000 people per square mile. Huge difference.
Israel has dropped 18,000 bombs on Gaza since October 7th. Incidentally Oct 7th is now a lot closer to four weeks than the around two weeks you’ve stated.
Israel has at this point committed numerous war crimes, and the US continues to give them the green light despite most Americans wanting a ceasefire. What I see here are attempted justifications for those war crimes, which shows that even war crimes have been politicized.
Your argument is that Hamas should be immune to any consequences for their actions on 10/7 because they've surrounded themselves with civilians.
They surround themselves with civilians specifically to get the support of people like yourself.
The children are dying directly because of YOU.
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really is wild to see so many young people in the west revert to total racist hate against jews, and campuses in particular just look the other way.
I mean you call a black person a 'colored person' instead of a 'person of color' and you risk suspension. Lord help you if you say a physical man should not compete in women's sports.
But you surround a Jewish student and push him or her around and physically intimidate him or her...and crickets.
Wild, wild stuff. A heaven for newname is breaking out. Maybe it's time for you to go back to school.
Have to say, leftist thought on campuses is extraordinarily sick and I welcome FL's attempt to push it out the door. Of course Rs will go too far, but just the idea of the people who control the purse starting to push back....might get campuses to behave better.
Hate to see old world hates carried over to America. Ugly stuff.
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agip wrote:
really is wild to see so many young people in the west revert to total racist hate against jews, and campuses in particular just look the other way.
I mean you call a black person a 'colored person' instead of a 'person of color' and you risk suspension. Lord help you if you say a physical man should not compete in women's sports.
But you surround a Jewish student and push him or her around and physically intimidate him or her...and crickets.
Wild, wild stuff. A heaven for newname is breaking out. Maybe it's time for you to go back to school.
Have to say, leftist thought on campuses is extraordinarily sick and I welcome FL's attempt to push it out the door. Of course Rs will go too far, but just the idea of the people who control the purse starting to push back....might get campuses to behave better.
Hate to see old world hates carried over to America. Ugly stuff.
Peterson explains it perfectly at around 28:30.
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agip wrote:
But you surround a Jewish student and push him or her around and physically intimidate him or her...and crickets.
Condemn that wholeheartedly, no place for that in civil society.
I worry it might get so bad that we see 6 year old babies stabbed 26 times to death HERE in the US due to prejudice. You’d be horrified by that and definitely speak up.
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Avner wrote:
agip wrote:
But you surround a Jewish student and push him or her around and physically intimidate him or her...and crickets.
Condemn that wholeheartedly, no place for that in civil society.
I worry it might get so bad that we see 6 year old babies stabbed 26 times to death HERE in the US due to prejudice. You’d be horrified by that and definitely speak up.
I'm pretty sure they arrested the murderer on that one, jack. Law and order worked.
Stay to the point. The point is that law and order has broken down on campus, in a nonsensical way. Where words are punished but violent actions are not. Where some people are protected, others are not, depending on their creed. Crazy.
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Avner wrote:
agip wrote:
But you surround a Jewish student and push him or her around and physically intimidate him or her...and crickets.
Condemn that wholeheartedly, no place for that in civil society.
I worry it might get so bad that we see 6 year old babies stabbed 26 times to death HERE in the US due to prejudice. You’d be horrified by that and definitely speak up.
If that had been a Jewish kid you'd be cheering right along with half the kids on campus and all of the faculty and saying he deserved it.
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This is a Palestinian women with her dead child who was killed by an Israeli air strike.
She blames Hamas not Israel.
Notice the moment she blames Hamas she's grabbed by the face and silenced.
Either the man is trying to protect her because he knows Hamas will kill her for bad PR or the man is worried about PR and doesn't want the camera to see her being honest.
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Avner wrote:
agip wrote:
But you surround a Jewish student and push him or her around and physically intimidate him or her...and crickets.
Condemn that wholeheartedly, no place for that in civil society.
I worry it might get so bad that we see 6 year old babies stabbed 26 times to death HERE in the US due to prejudice. You’d be horrified by that and definitely speak up.
No Jewish students have been surrounded and pushed around. That's BS
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Avner wrote:
Condemn that wholeheartedly, no place for that in civil society.
I worry it might get so bad that we see 6 year old babies stabbed 26 times to death HERE in the US due to prejudice. You’d be horrified by that and definitely speak up.
If that had been a Jewish kid you'd be cheering right along with half the kids on campus and all of the faculty and saying he deserved it.
I shouldn’t entertain your trolling and bigotry. But I will this time, I would condemn it just as much. I’m Jewish.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Israel has at this point committed numerous war crimes, and the US continues to give them the green light despite most Americans wanting a ceasefire. What I see here are attempted justifications for those war crimes, which shows that even war crimes have been politicized.
Your argument is that Hamas should be immune to any consequences for their actions on 10/7 because they've surrounded themselves with civilians.
They surround themselves with civilians specifically to get the support of people like yourself.
The children are dying directly because of YOU.
That’s the single most idiotic argument you’ve made yet (and most of your arguments are idiotic). The children are dying because Israel is depriving them of food, water, electricity, and freedom of movement - and then dropping bombs on them.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
This is a Palestinian women with her dead child who was killed by an Israeli air strike.
She blames Hamas not Israel.
Notice the moment she blames Hamas she's grabbed by the face and silenced.
Either the man is trying to protect her because he knows Hamas will kill her for bad PR or the man is worried about PR and doesn't want the camera to see her being honest.
You mean yesterday when you said "They were elected democratically and a majority of the population supports them." you may have been wrong and that the majority of Palestinians weren't even alive during the last parliamentary election and don't support Hamas? *shocking* that your naive take could be wrong. *shocking*
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Shoko Asahara wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Your argument is that Hamas should be immune to any consequences for their actions on 10/7 because they've surrounded themselves with civilians.
They surround themselves with civilians specifically to get the support of people like yourself.
The children are dying directly because of YOU.
That’s the single most idiotic argument you’ve made yet (and most of your arguments are idiotic). The children are dying because Israel is depriving them of food, water, electricity, and freedom of movement - and then dropping bombs on them.
Your anti-semitism is clouding your judgment.
Hamas's endless attacks on Israel are the cause of the lack of food, water, electricity, and freedom of movement.
Israel is dropping bombs on Hamas and Hamas surrounds itself with women and children to win the support of naive imbeciles like yourself.
Perhaps if the Israelis were burning the palestinian kids alive while they gang raped their mothers you'd support them...
Hamas can only exist with people like you willing to support them.
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