Flagpole wrote:
The Fact Checker wrote:
So you were wrong about Comey costing HRC the election?
I have never said one way or the other if Comey cost Hillary the election.
Did Russia cost Hillary the election?
Flagpole wrote:
The Fact Checker wrote:
So you were wrong about Comey costing HRC the election?
I have never said one way or the other if Comey cost Hillary the election.
Did Russia cost Hillary the election?
JorgeWill wrote:
Shrinking base wrote:
The pro-Trump group is fastly shrinking.
Trump 2016 strategy was Russian assistance to steal the election.
OK. I suggest preparing for yet another epic Flagpolian Flop in 2018 and 2020.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/23/us/politics/republican-voters-trump.html
This. Step out of Dreamland and into real life. You'll understand things more if you do.
Flagpole wrote:
The Fact Checker wrote:
So you were wrong about Comey costing HRC the election?
I have never said one way or the other if Comey cost Hillary the election.
You are such a liar.
Flagpole wrote:
ALSO, when conspiracy with Russia to help Trump win in 2016 is proven, I will have been RIGHT about the election too.
I agree with most of what you say but short of proving actual vote rigging at the ballot box you will never be right about this I'm afraid.
If people are too dumb to recognize fake Russian ads (and I'm not saying they are) and vote based on false information then the election is still lost either way.
delusional Dems wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Ah yes...a good point. Hillary was not particularly liked even by those in her own party, so many DID vote for Trump as a vote against Hillary. ALSO, as odd as it is to say, America as a whole is not ready for a female president. She got votes against her (even from women) because of that too.
You guys are still so delusional!
There were prominent Republicans coming out against Trump, telling people they'd vote for Hillary instead.
There were no prominent Democrats telling people they'd vote for Trump.
Hillary received far more of the "crossover out of disgust" vote (this is not inclusive of the crossover due to policy vote).
Trump, however, flat out STOLE the old faithful "blue-collar" vote from the Dems, since they drifted so far away from the center.
Trump still won every income group over $50K.
It was the greatest political heist in history. The Dems let it happen out of complete arrogance and ignorance.
Dream-MSM-land:
"The Hispanic vote will decide the 2016 election."
"Trump can't win without the Hispanic vote."
"Trump polls at 12% with Hispanics in latest poll!"
Reality:
Trump received 29% of the Hispanic vote.
Trump also received 13% of the black male vote.
These numbers should, and do, scare the crap out of Democratic strategists. Which is why they're cornered on the "racism!" strategy. They don't want ot have to depend on it, but they can't just let it go either.
Dems are not in a good place at the moment. "We Hate Trump" is not a winning political strategy.
give it a rest wrote:
recognize fake Russian ads
^ HI IVAN! Vlad says your check is in the Russian mail, comrade.
Big Heist wrote:
Trump received 29% of the Hispanic vote.
AH! So those are those 3 million illegal votes Trump whines about.
Xero wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I have never said one way or the other if Comey cost Hillary the election.
Did Russia cost Hillary the election?
Many things did including Hillary's own bad campaigning. Can't say that one thing caused her to lose.
BUT, cheating is not allowed, so regardless of whether Russia's involvement and collusion with Trump staff caused Trump to win, when the collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) is proven, it invalidates his victory. When a sprinter is caught using a PED, no one asks if the PED caused him or her to win...they are just stripped of medals. Same philosophy here, and something I made clear before the election that Trump had ZERO chance to win unless he cheated in some way...I even used the Olympian being caught using PEDs analogy. Cheaters can not be winners.
Flagpole wrote:
Many things did including Hillary's own bad campaigning. Can't say that one thing caused her to lose.
BUT, cheating is not allowed, so regardless of whether Russia's involvement and collusion with Trump staff caused Trump to win, when the collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) is proven, it invalidates his victory. When a sprinter is caught using a PED, no one asks if the PED caused him or her to win...they are just stripped of medals. Same philosophy here, and something I made clear before the election that Trump had ZERO chance to win unless he cheated in some way...I even used the Olympian being caught using PEDs analogy. Cheaters can not be winners.
But what folks really want to know is; Can they prosper?
Lyin’ Flag wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I have never said one way or the other if Comey cost Hillary the election.
You are such a liar.
Every time someone calls me a liar, I challenge them to go prove it, and they never can. The reason is that I do not lie. So, I challenge you...go find somewhere where I said that Comey cost Hillary the election. You will not be able to. While you will owe me an apology, I will be satisfied with you just looking in the mirror and resolving to be a better person.
Big Heist wrote:
Reality:
Trump received 29% of the Hispanic vote.
Trump also received 13% of the black male vote.
True Reality:
Trump +39% of the White Male, High school grad / No College vote.
Trump –9% of the College Grad vote.
Trump 8% of the black vote.
Also: 68% of Hispanic voters opposed a wall; 78% of Hispanic voters support legal status for immigrants (82% of blacks; 67% of whites).
Butt Man wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Cheaters can not be winners.
But what folks really want to know is; Can they prosper?
Yes, for a little while at least.
— Marie Antoinette
give it a rest wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
ALSO, when conspiracy with Russia to help Trump win in 2016 is proven, I will have been RIGHT about the election too.
I agree with most of what you say but short of proving actual vote rigging at the ballot box you will never be right about this I'm afraid.
If people are too dumb to recognize fake Russian ads (and I'm not saying they are) and vote based on false information then the election is still lost either way.
Nope. I made that a part of the criteria when I said Trump had zero chance to win. It is impossible to know the affect the Russian meddling had on the election, and I knew that going in which is why I put cheating in as part of the criteria. I also said that if aliens came down here and made us vote for Trump that that wouldn't count either.
And, dude, lots of people fell for the Russian meddling. I tried for a while on social media to show people that what they were posting was fake crap, but they just kept doing it anyway. Even our big radio station here, 610 AM in central Ohio got fooled and spouted crap that was made up. I even contacted the station after they represented as fact that Obama arranged to have his girls' grandmother to get a $160,000 a year government salary until she died. That was bogus and disproved before 610 announced it as fact.
Bottom line is that conspiracy in this manner is illegal. I brought it up as a condition, so when it is proven, I will be right about the election. As we are today, I remain wrong, but that will change.
Flagpole wrote:
Silly Willy wrote:
LOL- You're still here?!! Wow.
The IG Report basically confirmed everything that Fox News and Trump has been saying for over a year now with regard to the fake Hillary investigation and the plan to, let's just say, as Strzok put it, "Stop Trump" one way or another. Mueller is boxed in now, and will have to come clean at some point.
Disgraced DOJ/Intelligence leaders:
Comey fired (recommendation from DAG)
McCabe fired (recommended from FBI internals)
Strzok fired (receommended from FBI internals)
Page resigned (amid immense pressure to leave)
Lynch (her time is coming; now disagreeing with Comey)
Clapper (CNN-paid liar now, after lying under oath a few times)
Brennan (tried to help orchestrate the fake Russia insurance policy, and just a terrible person all around)
It's a shame the "insurance policy" hasn't worked out for you guys though. Oh well.
Maybe the DNC lawsuit over "being super butthurt" will turn something up? Maybe we'll finally get a look at that "hacked server" of theirs? LOL!
I love you, man.
Mueller never.
Clownpole forever.
Dude, you are dreaming if you think Trump isn't in serious trouble.
As I've said before, when this is all over, the biggest I Told Yo So in the history of Letsrun is coming from me to all of you Trumpers. It will be a nice I Told You So, because I am righteous but kind, but it will be an I Told You So nevertheless.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
My Trump army is fearless, despite being outnumbered by at least 10-1 liberals on the LR board. But no matter, the inevitable conclusion will be this:
The Flagpolian Flop is coming
Mueller never
Clownpole forever
Trump's Numbers wrote:
Big Heist wrote:
Reality:
Trump received 29% of the Hispanic vote.
Trump also received 13% of the black male vote.
True Reality:
Trump +39% of the White Male, High school grad / No College vote.
Trump –9% of the College Grad vote.
Trump 8% of the black vote.
Also: 68% of Hispanic voters opposed a wall; 78% of Hispanic voters support legal status for immigrants (82% of blacks; 67% of whites).
You have to realize the two biggest groups of race+education are 1) white w/ degrees (37% of voters) and 2) whites w/o degrees (34% of voters). He won both of those groups. He won whites w/ degrees +4, and whites w/o degrees +37.
Winning whites with degrees was a huge surprise to the Flagpolian pollsters and MSM.
This is how he won the suburbs, which is the largest portion of the electorate. Everyone harps on his base being white/rural/poor/etc, but that entire segment of society only makes up like 15% of the vote. It's silly to focus on that at all. total waste of time. Suburbs are roughly 40% of the vote, and he won that battle.
And 8% of the black vote sounds bad, but it's actually better than any Republican has done in a long time. Black males went 13% for Trump! That's way higher than I can remember. Reagan maybe? Watch out if he really emphasizes the black vote before 2020. That could be checkmate if he wants it. Why? Because a) black unemployment is at all time lows, and b) black men don't feel like their voices has been heard by Dems.
Maxine Waters is calling open season to harass Trump Administration leaders with verbal abuse, etc. Even nutjob Nancy Pelosi, told her to back down. Waters is hurting her own party with those ridiculous comments and I hope she keeps making a fool of herself.
Flagpole wrote:
Xero wrote:
Did Russia cost Hillary the election?
Many things did including Hillary's own bad campaigning. Can't say that one thing caused her to lose.
BUT, cheating is not allowed, so regardless of whether Russia's involvement and collusion with Trump staff caused Trump to win, when the collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) is proven, it invalidates his victory. When a sprinter is caught using a PED, no one asks if the PED caused him or her to win...they are just stripped of medals. Same philosophy here, and something I made clear before the election that Trump had ZERO chance to win unless he cheated in some way...I even used the Olympian being caught using PEDs analogy. Cheaters can not be winners.
You did not say that. You said he had 0 chance many times. No qualifications.
If he is found guilty of something but not stripped of his Presidency, using your lame analogy, he’s in the clear?
Flagpole wrote:
give it a rest wrote:
I agree with most of what you say but short of proving actual vote rigging at the ballot box you will never be right about this I'm afraid.
If people are too dumb to recognize fake Russian ads (and I'm not saying they are) and vote based on false information then the election is still lost either way.
Nope. I made that a part of the criteria when I said Trump had zero chance to win. It is impossible to know the affect the Russian meddling had on the election, and I knew that going in which is why I put cheating in as part of the criteria. I also said that if aliens came down here and made us vote for Trump that that wouldn't count either.
And, dude, lots of people fell for the Russian meddling. I tried for a while on social media to show people that what they were posting was fake crap, but they just kept doing it anyway. Even our big radio station here, 610 AM in central Ohio got fooled and spouted crap that was made up. I even contacted the station after they represented as fact that Obama arranged to have his girls' grandmother to get a $160,000 a year government salary until she died. That was bogus and disproved before 610 announced it as fact.
Bottom line is that conspiracy in this manner is illegal. I brought it up as a condition, so when it is proven, I will be right about the election. As we are today, I remain wrong, but that will change.
Yep, she never lies and all of the links posted by the right are bogus, only your links are accurate. LOL!!!!
Bias is your middle name but it should be your first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaDy3BKKA5IBig Heist wrote:
Trump's Numbers wrote:
True Reality:
Trump +39% of the White Male, High school grad / No College vote.
Trump –9% of the College Grad vote.
Trump 8% of the black vote.
Also: 68% of Hispanic voters opposed a wall; 78% of Hispanic voters support legal status for immigrants (82% of blacks; 67% of whites).
You have to realize the two biggest groups of race+education are 1) white w/ degrees (37% of voters) and 2) whites w/o degrees (34% of voters). He won both of those groups. He won whites w/ degrees +4, and whites w/o degrees +37.
Winning whites with degrees was a huge surprise to the Flagpolian pollsters and MSM.
This is how he won the suburbs, which is the largest portion of the electorate. Everyone harps on his base being white/rural/poor/etc, but that entire segment of society only makes up like 15% of the vote. It's silly to focus on that at all. total waste of time. Suburbs are roughly 40% of the vote, and he won that battle.
And 8% of the black vote sounds bad, but it's actually better than any Republican has done in a long time.
0/10
"1) white w/ degrees (37% of voters) ... He won both of those groups."
Nope. He lost that group by 9% to your hated Hillary.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Maxine Waters is calling open season to harass Trump Administration leaders with verbal abuse, etc.
Yes, I agree that's bad.
You shouldn't condone harrassment.
So ... do you agree that it's bad when Trump insults people?