Reasonable Republican wrote:
Good idea on paper. But how would you get China or India for example to agree to rules and regulations that would hurt their economies and benefit the US?
^ Smells like the completely clueless Hardloper.
Reasonable Republican wrote:
Good idea on paper. But how would you get China or India for example to agree to rules and regulations that would hurt their economies and benefit the US?
^ Smells like the completely clueless Hardloper.
Reasonable Republican wrote:
agip wrote:
join the frickin' TPP, strenghthen NAFTA, strengthen US-European ties. Then have all these non-China players call Beijing and say 'hey. Man. We have a giant, giant trading block. Huge. You want to play? Here are the rules.'
Instead we left TPP, we are leaving NAFTA, we are weakening euro-US trade. Totally the opposite of what we should have done. Trump is a true moran.
Fair enough. Why didn't Obama do it? he had 8 years.
Im glad we agree that China is playing unfair though its good to find common ground.
huh? Obama set up the TPP as an organization to counter the economic force of China. Exactly, exactly for this reason. It was jsut getting going when Trump pulled us out of it. Obama did all the work but Rump wrecked it, out of spite, before it could be used to push back against China.
as for your second point, I don't disagree with Trump on everything. I am a moderate - generally pro-business, anti-deficit, strong dollar, pro trade. I'm a democrat because I think the gummint has a role to regulate the economy and help poor people. And I don't think religion should be worn on your sleeve when you are in elected service.
You also have nothing. Please share some insight. Your response is no better than his.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Trump's superpower wrote:
a) Take an economics class. Just a single one. You look foolish.
Ok, great! You express great confidence in your economics training. Please share with us how a trade war benefits both countries. I'm certain there are many examples in history for you to use.
Trump's superpower wrote:
b) The Dems used to be the party of the blue collar, working class folk. As such, you used to recite anti-capitalist positions, fight for fair trade, against outsourcing, etc. Now you guys are in favor of each of those things and more. Why? "Trump!"
Please tell me more about "anti capitalist positions." Do you have a blog? A newsletter? What's your handle on zerohedge?
Please show how "working class folk" flourished under Reagan and Cheney era economic and industrial policy, which were moderate compared to Trump's idiocy. You are well trained in Economics, right? This is a no-brainer for you!
I eagerly await your insights.
Dude, you are lying. Where is your proof? On the other hand there is plenty of proof about FBI, DOJ and past Administration's senior officials lying. Fake news. I have news for you. You sound like a lunatic.
Flagpole wrote:
The back and forth with Tumpers remains ridiculous, as if there is any equivalency with other Administrations.
Pretty sure none of the Trumpers will answer this question, but do you really think Donald Trump is innocent of all the things that he's facing? Those things include money laundering, obstruction of justice, collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) with Russia and maybe other countries, bank fraud, wire fraud, emoluments clause violation, campaign finance violation...and more.
Do you really think he's innocent of all of those things? If not, then why do you support him?
And then when you look at the man personally there isn't one redeeming quality about him. He's a sexist, he's a misogynist, he's racist, he's a serial liar, he praises dictators who have killed their own people and political opponents. He has made comments about perhaps not having elections anymore. He says people should sit up at attention when he speaks like they do in North Korea for their leader. His behavior is beyond ridiculous. It is insane that some of you people support him, absolutely insane.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
_its_baddude wrote:
^Nuthin' Burger
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
L L wrote:
Maybe go after Apple and Nike.
Yes, this. Trade agreements need to ensure corporate accountability so that they can't shop around the globe for the cheapest, most easily exploited labor they can find. There need to be minimum labor standards, more robust regulatory enforcement, and giant multi-nationals need to be held legally responsible for their supply chains. If workers aren't protected abroad, they can't really be protected here, either. Unfortunately, it's hard to build international worker solidarity when roughly half the country sees foreign workers as job-stealing, sh*thole dwellers, rather than allies against the global corporate race to the bottom.
There’s a perfect example of Democrats disagreeing on something. I don’t like this approach, but it’s well argued and is valid. See trumpers, you are allowed to deviate from your orange god. You can admit his stance on immigration is in humane and suggest something different, or you can keep confirming you are a bunch of scumbags for being ok with inflicting permanent damage on innocent and harmless children.
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
L L wrote:
Maybe go after Apple and Nike.
Yes, this. Trade agreements need to ensure corporate accountability so that they can't shop around the globe for the cheapest, most easily exploited labor they can find. There need to be minimum labor standards, more robust regulatory enforcement, and giant multi-nationals need to be held legally responsible for their supply chains. If workers aren't protected abroad, they can't really be protected here, either. Unfortunately, it's hard to build international worker solidarity when roughly half the country sees foreign workers as job-stealing, sh*thole dwellers, rather than allies against the global corporate race to the bottom.
And how do you account for global sales? You want American companies to build products in America. And then you want to export American made to other countries without any consideration for those countries workers. The world you seem to want is one where each country makes its own product in complete isolation--no importing or materials; no exporting of finished products. That model of economics is a dead end. In fact it has never work since the industrial age began. Trade is what made the world what it is today.
BTW: What is your position on people like Trump who build resorts properties in other countries? In a closed trade world that would never be allowed. No foreign ownership of anything.
I'm confused. Who are you talking about when you say money laundering, obstruction of justice, collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) with Russia and maybe other countries, bank fraud, wire fraud, emoluments clause violation, campaign finance violation all the crazy Democrats in power?
PIO! wrote:
Scary mary wrote:
Trollimator and pop pop, why haven’t given your minions their talking points?
This one has basically repeated the same post for weeks. Is he no longer on the mailing list?
So, you think that things like "money laundering, obstruction of justice, collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) with Russia and maybe other countries, bank fraud, wire fraud, emoluments clause violation, campaign finance violation" are merely talking points and that the list of such talking points should change weekly in order to keep it interesting for you?
You appear to be a really deep thinker.
_its_baddude wrote:
I'm confused. Who are you talking about when you say
money laundering, obstruction of justice, collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) with Russia and maybe other countries, bank fraud, wire fraud, emoluments clause violation, campaign finance violation?
Trump = Guilty of all of those > Trump goes to jail
Trollminator wrote:
Laughatyouaminator wrote:
No it's not. You are the most ignorant liberal turd on this thread. Grow a pair.
Thanks for confirming
....that you are an idiot:):):). No problem, it's been confirmed. Trollsissydemo is an idiot.
grifters gonna grift
trumpers gonna trump
fish rots from the head
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/19/us/politics/wilbur-ross-shorted-stock.html
Fiagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Thanks for confirming
....that you are an idiot:):):). No problem, it's been confirmed. Trollsissydemo is an idiot.
TROLLMINATOR IS UNAMERICAN!!!!!
WON'T SUPPORT HIS OWN PRESIDENT, BUT WON'T MOVE EITHER;)
HYPOCRITE!!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/19/opinions/immigrant-children-sessions-holocaust-comparisons-miss-point-filipovic-opinion/index.htmlagip wrote:
grifters gonna grift
trumpers gonna trump
fish rots from the head
I miss Obama
agip wrote:
Reasonable Repubilican wrote:
Ok so you disagree with Trump, how would you solve the problem?
join the frickin' TPP, strenghthen NAFTA, strengthen US-European ties. Then have all these non-China players call Beijing and say 'hey. Man. We have a giant, giant trading block. Huge. You want to play? Here are the rules.'
Instead we left TPP, we are leaving NAFTA, we are weakening euro-US trade. Totally the opposite of what we should have done. Trump is a true moran.
Are you serious? Do you not understand how moronic that is.
Wait, don’t answer that.
Trollminator wrote:
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Yes, this. Trade agreements need to ensure corporate accountability so that they can't shop around the globe for the cheapest, most easily exploited labor they can find. There need to be minimum labor standards, more robust regulatory enforcement, and giant multi-nationals need to be held legally responsible for their supply chains. If workers aren't protected abroad, they can't really be protected here, either. Unfortunately, it's hard to build international worker solidarity when roughly half the country sees foreign workers as job-stealing, sh*thole dwellers, rather than allies against the global corporate race to the bottom.
There’s a perfect example of Democrats disagreeing on something. I don’t like this approach, but it’s well argued and is valid. See trumpers, you are allowed to deviate from your orange god. You can admit his stance on immigration is in humane and suggest something different, or you can keep confirming you are a bunch of scumbags for being ok with inflicting permanent damage on innocent and harmless children.
Just something else you were okay with as long as your side was doing it. You are so foolish.
Grow a pair and don’t wait for other people to make up your beliefs for you.
Fiagpole wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Thanks for confirming
....that you are an idiot:):):). No problem, it's been confirmed. Trollsissydemo is an idiot.
See. Even flagpole agrees.
Yeti. wrote:
agip wrote:
join the frickin' TPP, strenghthen NAFTA, strengthen US-European ties. Then have all these non-China players call Beijing and say 'hey. Man. We have a giant, giant trading block. Huge. You want to play? Here are the rules.'
Instead we left TPP, we are leaving NAFTA, we are weakening euro-US trade. Totally the opposite of what we should have done. Trump is a true moran.
Are you serious? Do you not understand how moronic that is.
Wait, don’t answer that.
ok
Here are some facts for the lunatics. DOJ and FBI senior officials are/were corrupt. None of this would have come out had Hillary become president. Trump bringing the needed deodorant to politics. This will get worse.