Econ 100 wrote:
China's already working with us in our favor. In the spring they conceded they'll work with us on a more equal balance.
Cool story, bro. I know history is a challenge for you, but, they've talked like that since the beginning of their mercantilism policies.
Treating international trade it like you are going to the grocery store to buy food is not actually anything at all how international trade works.
Whenever you debunk any of their claims they say you are triggered. So you are right, it's hopeless, no matter what they remain loyal to their binary view of the world and in Trump's magical abilities. But most of all, they only care about one thing - sticking it to the libs... as long as that is happening kids can rot in those detention centers without their parents and our economy could tank on trade war escalation - they will surely be happy.
Clownpolio wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
If the left was honest, they’d admit that these illegal alien kids are taken better care of than the homeless US citizens living in tents all across California. My parents came from South America and they did it LEGALLY. I'm all for immigrants coming in to the USA but come in legally & don't break the law to get in.
There will be some new lib outrage in a week or so. Notice how the media has pushed the IG report off the headlines.
I wonder why? LOL
So now we have 1) Comey under investigation, 2) McCabe fired due to internal FBI investigation catching him lying all the time, 3) Strzok's texts saying that they'll stop Trump and he has an "insurance policy", 4) Page resigned from the FBI in shame, and 5) Lynch's now-famous exchange in which she told Comey the investigation should be referred to as a "matter".
Every day is just great as these rats are forced to flee the ship.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/06/18/breaking-oig-is-investigating-james-comey-n2491947
Just keeps getting better.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/19/sharyl-attkisson-ig-report-criticizes-over-80-dojf/Clownpolio wrote:
Clownpolio wrote:
I wonder why? LOL
So now we have 1) Comey under investigation, 2) McCabe fired due to internal FBI investigation catching him lying all the time, 3) Strzok's texts saying that they'll stop Trump and he has an "insurance policy", 4) Page resigned from the FBI in shame, and 5) Lynch's now-famous exchange in which she told Comey the investigation should be referred to as a "matter".
Every day is just great as these rats are forced to flee the ship.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2018/06/18/breaking-oig-is-investigating-james-comey-n2491947Just keeps getting better.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/19/sharyl-attkisson-ig-report-criticizes-over-80-dojf/
Good update! Remember a few weeks ago when it was all about the libs favorite porn star, Stormy? She fell off the radar along with her media whore ambulance chasing shyster.
Trump's superpower wrote:
a) Take an economics class. Just a single one. You look foolish.
Ok, great! You express great confidence in your economics training. Please share with us how a trade war benefits both countries. I'm certain there are many examples in history for you to use.
Trump's superpower wrote:
b) The Dems used to be the party of the blue collar, working class folk. As such, you used to recite anti-capitalist positions, fight for fair trade, against outsourcing, etc. Now you guys are in favor of each of those things and more. Why? "Trump!"
Please tell me more about "anti capitalist positions." Do you have a blog? A newsletter? What's your handle on zerohedge?
Please show how "working class folk" flourished under Reagan and Cheney era economic and industrial policy, which were moderate compared to Trump's idiocy. You are well trained in Economics, right? This is a no-brainer for you!
I eagerly await your insights.
Just like I said earlier & CNBC mentioning:
"Because it imports far less than it exports, China would face limitations in how it could respond to U.S. duties."
"China is going to run out of direct reprisals quickly should it look to match the U.S. in tariffs," LPL Research said in a note. "There is also broad agreement globally that China engages in a range of unfair trade practices, which provides some moral high ground for the U.S. "
"Chinese officials have threatened tit-for-tat tariffs, but eventually could run out of items to target."
We are in a position of strength and Trump is a fighter. Just wait, when China submits to Trump's armbar and taps out.
Trump wins, America wins!
The back and forth with Tumpers remains ridiculous, as if there is any equivalency with other Administrations.
Pretty sure none of the Trumpers will answer this question, but do you really think Donald Trump is innocent of all the things that he's facing? Those things include money laundering, obstruction of justice, collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) with Russia and maybe other countries, bank fraud, wire fraud, emoluments clause violation, campaign finance violation...and more.
Do you really think he's innocent of all of those things? If not, then why do you support him?
And then when you look at the man personally there isn't one redeeming quality about him. He's a sexist, he's a misogynist, he's racist, he's a serial liar, he praises dictators who have killed their own people and political opponents. He has made comments about perhaps not having elections anymore. He says people should sit up at attention when he speaks like they do in North Korea for their leader. His behavior is beyond ridiculous. It is insane that some of you people support him, absolutely insane.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Flagpole wrote:
then why do you support him?
Because their value systems are aligned and they adore him for sticking it to libs, end of story. Why they can't just admit that, not sure, it's not like they have any scruples left about supporting him.
Here's a little World Cup humor for all the triggered libs today. Enjoy!
Laughing really loudly wrote:
Democrat controlled media are really throwing a hissy fit this week about the nonexistent border crisis.
Nothing better than watching hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns!!!!!!
Agree
Agree wrote:
Laughing really loudly wrote:
Democrat controlled media are really throwing a hissy fit this week about the nonexistent border crisis.
Nothing better than watching hillary lovers continue to have meltdowns!!!!!!
Agree
Fox News headlines today include:
— GOP scrambles to fix controversial border policy of splitting up illegal immigrant children, parents
— ALAN DERSHOWITZ: Mr. President, please end the policy of separating children from parents
— Silicon Valley couple sets out to raise $1,500 for separated family. They're at $4M
— Politicians abandoning its citizens for illegal immigrants
Trollminator wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
then why do you support him?
Because their value systems are aligned and they adore him for sticking it to libs, end of story. Why they can't just admit that, not sure, it's not like they have any scruples left about supporting him.
Yeah...want to hear them say it. I KNOW also that there is a paternalistic component. Women are to be objectified and not heard.
Conservative Christians who still support him have lost all credibility based on what should be religious reasons, and anyone else who does has lost credibility due to his very apparent lack of knowledge of anything, his lying, his executive time, his golfing...oh and the criminal stuff.
Huge loser.
Fortunately...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
For the record, my so-called "hissy fit" had nothing to do with the border crisis narrative presented by the Democrat controlled media - I am not a Democrat and I avoid the MSM. I was just calling out what I saw as a fallacious argument. Namely, that border crack downs are intended to curb child trafficking. RfH obviously didn't want to back up the claim or engage in an evidence based debate about it, so I gave up.
I get that some Democrats are sometimes insufferable but not every Democrat talking point is meritless. The moral outrage over the new border policies is amplified because it is happening under Trump, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to argue that it is an unnecessarily cruel policy. To lie, obfuscate, and troll in response to any criticism is not winning. At least not winning anything worth winning.
Anyway, in fairness to RfH I did post under the name youarealiar/youarealiarandatroll.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Here's a little World Cup humor for all the triggered libs today. Enjoy!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgEifoxUwAAXcX8.jpg
Gonna have to give you credit here. That was pretty funny.
youarealiarandatroll wrote:
For the record, my so-called "hissy fit" had nothing to do with the border crisis narrative presented by the Democrat controlled media - I am not a Democrat and I avoid the MSM. I was just calling out what I saw as a fallacious argument. Namely, that border crack downs are intended to curb child trafficking. RfH obviously didn't want to back up the claim or engage in an evidence based debate about it, so I gave up.
I get that some Democrats are sometimes insufferable but not every Democrat talking point is meritless. The moral outrage over the new border policies is amplified because it is happening under Trump, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to argue that it is an unnecessarily cruel policy. To lie, obfuscate, and troll in response to any criticism is not winning. At least not winning anything worth winning.
Anyway, in fairness to RfH I did post under the name youarealiar/youarealiarandatroll.
Here are the facts:
"...per DHS, the numbers show "that while the Trump administration is restoring the rule of law ... no one expects to reverse years of political action overnight or in a month. ... Smugglers, human traffickers, and nefarious actors know our loopholes well and accordingly exploit them."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/despite-trump-admin-crackdown-illegal-immigration-border-increased-may-n880686Obama also addressed the growing human trafficking problem not only at the US border but worldwide. For you to claim that this recent border crackdown has nothing to do with child trafficking tells me just how naive and uninformed you are.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/18/opinions/human-trafficking-progress-obama/index.htmlTrollminator wrote:
Whenever you debunk any of their claims they say you are triggered. So you are right, it's hopeless, no matter what they remain loyal to their binary view of the world and in Trump's magical abilities. But most of all, they only care about one thing - sticking it to the libs... as long as that is happening kids can rot in those detention centers without their parents and our economy could tank on trade war escalation - they will surely be happy.
Yet you continue here.
Flagpole wrote:
The back and forth with Tumpers remains ridiculous, as if there is any equivalency with other Administrations.
Pretty sure none of the Trumpers will answer this question, but do you really think Donald Trump is innocent of all the things that he's facing? Those things include money laundering, obstruction of justice, collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) with Russia and maybe other countries, bank fraud, wire fraud, emoluments clause violation, campaign finance violation...and more.
Do you really think he's innocent of all of those things? If not, then why do you support him?
And then when you look at the man personally there isn't one redeeming quality about him. He's a sexist, he's a misogynist, he's racist, he's a serial liar, he praises dictators who have killed their own people and political opponents. He has made comments about perhaps not having elections anymore. He says people should sit up at attention when he speaks like they do in North Korea for their leader. His behavior is beyond ridiculous. It is insane that some of you people support him, absolutely insane.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Trollimator and pop pop, why haven’t given your minions their talking points?
This one has basically repeated the same post for weeks. Is he no longer on the mailing list?
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Here's a little World Cup humor for all the triggered libs today. Enjoy!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgEifoxUwAAXcX8.jpg
Racist.
Trollminator wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Wrong again, Marine. We have a gigantic trade deficit with China. USA is the de facto winner here since there's only room to take back lost ground. If you take this to the max, who has more products coming in to put tariffs on? CHINA.
The US exports $169.8B to China and imports $478.8B. We're currently putting tariffs on $50B and Trump has added $200B more. What does China do if we tariff over $169.8B? They're screwed big time. They don't import enough to have retaliatory tariffs.
Don't worry I'm sure we'll be told China is going to "dump treasuries." To who? The Fed? Good luck with that fantasy.
Trump wins, America wins again!
The import/export differential is tipped in our favor in terms of inflicting damage. That is a pure bilateral view that does not take into account how other countries will react and who will win the fight of influence there. Trump is distancing from our allies and threatening them as well, so if we see measures from multiple trade partners, we will be hurt much more than the Chinese. Second, they could inflict massive damage on US companies operating in China. Google, Apple, Walmart, all those big players would get killed of in the region, would be terrible for US GDP. The US is not in the position to counter such measures. And as far as the treasuries, less buying alone by the Chinese would be awful for us in terms of expansionary ability. Nobody else would pick up the slack. And if they decide to simply dump them at a loss on purpose, that would be extremely painful for us.
All in all, there is an end game that we know Trump doesn't want. He's going to bark loudly, but won't follow through all the way. With enough tariffs we will feel enough pain to put significant political pressure on Trump and the GOP. The Chinese don't have that issue. They have a single party system in full control. Politically, Trump and the GOP can't bear the pain if he pushes too much. So what are we getting out of this? Nothing. We are proving we are unreliable and whinny trade partners and we are hurting our own by doing this. The Chinese will take equivalent measures and will resort to other tactics, while we bleed to death if we push too hard. Think Trump would actually go through with another $50-100B in tariffs? Sure he may, but he can then kiss goodbye to reelection as our economy and stock markets would take a giant beating. Notice the Chinese don't call his bluff... they know he's gone soon. They are smooth operators, while he looks like the instigator and bad guy, trying to hurt them and meddling in their affairs. He can't outlast them.
So basically your admitting Rigged is right about the import export differential? Trump is doing what is right for the country not what is best for him politically in the short term. By 2020 if Trump is successful we will see some positive results from this. Also haven't you said you voted for Bernie Sanders in the primaries you do realize he would have had a very similar trade policy in regards to tariffs right? So now you don't like tariffs because Trump is doing them?
Scary mary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
The back and forth with Tumpers remains ridiculous, as if there is any equivalency with other Administrations.
Pretty sure none of the Trumpers will answer this question, but do you really think Donald Trump is innocent of all the things that he's facing? Those things include money laundering, obstruction of justice, collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) with Russia and maybe other countries, bank fraud, wire fraud, emoluments clause violation, campaign finance violation...and more.
Do you really think he's innocent of all of those things? If not, then why do you support him?
And then when you look at the man personally there isn't one redeeming quality about him. He's a sexist, he's a misogynist, he's racist, he's a serial liar, he praises dictators who have killed their own people and political opponents. He has made comments about perhaps not having elections anymore. He says people should sit up at attention when he speaks like they do in North Korea for their leader. His behavior is beyond ridiculous. It is insane that some of you people support him, absolutely insane.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
Trollimator and pop pop, why haven’t given your minions their talking points?
This one has basically repeated the same post for weeks. Is he no longer on the mailing list?
So, you think that things like "money laundering, obstruction of justice, collusion (in the form of conspiracy and/or bribery) with Russia and maybe other countries, bank fraud, wire fraud, emoluments clause violation, campaign finance violation" are merely talking points and that the list of such talking points should change weekly in order to keep it interesting for you?
You appear to be a really deep thinker.
