Idiot Alert wrote:
Exrunner is an old guy. I highly doubt he hangs out on most new social media platforms...probably made it up.
Go and look at Farah’s Instagram right now. I only deal in facts
Idiot Alert wrote:
Exrunner is an old guy. I highly doubt he hangs out on most new social media platforms...probably made it up.
Go and look at Farah’s Instagram right now. I only deal in facts
exrunner wrote:
Idiot Alert wrote:
Exrunner is an old guy. I highly doubt he hangs out on most new social media platforms...probably made it up.
Go and look at Farah’s Instagram right now. I only deal in facts
facts? here? forget about it.
it's a comedy farce, of amusing proportions.
Exrunner has confirmed he checks instagram. Also, I have now checked Mo's instagram, and can confirm that Mo is posting pictures of his blood tests in Ethiopia. The one caveat, *as stated earlier*, is that he is NOT adding the #stayclean to his post. So, Mo Farah is still on pending list. One Mo Test was clever though.
Current clean list per instagram:
Jakob Ingebrigtsen (His brothers by association)
Likely clean based off of instagram list , but awaiting more evidence:
Mo Farah
Gives blood, but highly suspicious and might be transfusing back into his body based off of instagram list:
Taoufik Makhloufi
ex-runner wrote:
Idiot Alert wrote:
You're an idiot. Jakob posts on Instagram about staying clean when he gets blood tests done.
He puts them up on his story and it has a caption saying "Stay Clean".
No one would do that if they were doping. Incompetence on these boards is reaching a new all time high.
So does Farah.
Right now on his story he has pictures of him giving blood and urine samples to testers in Ethiopia.
Nobody seems to care about those facts though.
Facts:
With proper warning and smart micro-dosing, an EPO test is EASY to beat. You'd have to be an idiot not to pass.
ric flair woo wrote:
said88 wrote:
I have called Coevett a liar regularly since almost two years - for the simple reason that he IS a notorious liar. Again and again. I have spotted dozens of pure lies from this unbelievable character. And I'm just talking about unambiguously lies which can't be questioned (normally just number based facts). In the last "fight" which I've had with him he just talked how some specific race from his big hero Steve Ovett developed. Later he stated he never ever has seen the race (I have the race on tape and told him that the reality just is completely the opposite to his version of the race). But he will never just accept when he is wrong - he is doing it willingly and there just is no chance to clarify something, regardless how clearly it was shown that he is wrong. It's just obvious that he is not at all interested to find the facts about something. It's also obvious that he just already has DECIDED what (for him) are the "facts". And he is just looking for points which confirm his agenda. But when the points just don't confirm like he wants: change them. What he will not do: change his pont of view. Never.
Just for clarification: for sure any poster has any right to focus on doping in any form. But not with lies.
Coevett is actually just justin gatlin's burner account. he takes out his PED suspension frustration on this board
Really!?
:O wrote:
ric flair woo wrote:
Coevett is actually just justin gatlin's burner account. he takes out his PED suspension frustration on this board
Really!?
I doubt very much Rojo wants to be put in the same three man category as ex-runner (a former British 800m doper) and Said88 (defends to the death Aouita from doping allegations, despite the number of clear smoking guns).
Said88 is an utter moron who thinks my claim that Steve Ovett still had it in 1986 (and as evidence a 1500 race in which he beat Abde Bile) has any bearing whatsoever on whether Aouita doped or not.
Coevett wrote:
Steve Ovett still had it in 1986 (and as evidence a 1500 race in which he beat Abde Bile)
According to M!ndweak, Coevett is Steve Ovett, so I'm taking it as fact that "Steve Ovett still had it in 1986".
Coevett would know as he's Steve Ovett, so must be true. wrote:
Coevett wrote:
Steve Ovett still had it in 1986 (and as evidence a 1500 race in which he beat Abde Bile)
According to M!ndweak, Coevett is Steve Ovett, so I'm taking it as fact that "Steve Ovett still had it in 1986".
lol
Coevett wrote:
:O wrote:
Really!?
I doubt very much Rojo wants to be put in the same three man category as ex-runner (a former British 800m doper) and Said88 (defends to the death Aouita from doping allegations, despite the number of clear smoking guns).
Said88 is an utter moron who thinks my claim that Steve Ovett still had it in 1986 (and as evidence a 1500 race in which he beat Abde Bile) has any bearing whatsoever on whether Aouita doped or not.
Exactly what this mad-one always does when someone points on his lies: he just completely changes the subject. His answer has nothing to do with the accusations. Not even an attempt to explain why he lists his wrong "facts" (and maybe try to explain why he might think why those (obviously wrong) "facts" from his point of view are correct). For sure: this is impossible, but still...
Someone accused you to be a lier, what's the best response? For Coevett more lies. I have never ever defended Aouita from doping allegations. Never. Coevett is a pure liar and should long have been banned from this forum.
There was all the talk about Ingebrigtsen failing to develop as a senior but is it safe to say now that it doesn't really matter?
rojo wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Rojo do you believe Ayana is clean? So she could run the 2nd half of a 10,000m at 14:24 (???) pace, yet days later a 5,000m at that pace was way too quick. Remember Ayana and Tefera are from the same country. If you answered No to my question, then chances are that there is some sort of short-life PED that isn't detectable but gives a momentary massive boost.
I'll say this. I'd say her bombing in the 5000 certainly makes it seem more likely that she is clean than if she had come back and won both. Yet you seem to be implying her not winning gold in the 5000 somehow means she's a doper?
That makes no sense.
People who don't get drugs get tired and can't replicate back to back amazing performances.
If she was on some drug that mader her run out of her mind, why wouldn't it also work for the 5000? I'm very confused as to why you think her bombing the 5000 means she's more likely to be on drugs than if she had won it. I'd say just the opposite.
Yeah this is my view also. Ayanas detractors always point to her surpassing an already “doped” record as evidence that she must also be doping. Wang Junxia confounded credibility not by her 10WR as an individual performance, but the fact that within a ten day period she additionally ran the heats and the finals of 1500/3000 setting record times in both. - Wang was clearly a doper because she displayed an impossibly high performance intensity across different distances within a very confined timescale.
Ayana displays no such characteristics. In both Rio and London her 5k performance was a poor facsimile of what she is capable of due to her efforts in the 10k a week prior. Solo frontrunning whilst sustaining a superior pace is tremendously draining. It is this ability which sets Ayana apart from others but I also believe the effort of which dramatically robs her performance potential in the second event she runs.
Of course she could be doping also, you cannot believe or support and athlete without considering all possible sources of performance excellence both admirable or underhanded.
said88 wrote:
Coevett wrote:
I doubt very much Rojo wants to be put in the same three man category as ex-runner (a former British 800m doper) and Said88 (defends to the death Aouita from doping allegations, despite the number of clear smoking guns).
Said88 is an utter moron who thinks my claim that Steve Ovett still had it in 1986 (and as evidence a 1500 race in which he beat Abde Bile) has any bearing whatsoever on whether Aouita doped or not.
Exactly what this mad-one always does when someone points on his lies: he just completely changes the subject. His answer has nothing to do with the accusations. Not even an attempt to explain why he lists his wrong "facts" (and maybe try to explain why he might think why those (obviously wrong) "facts" from his point of view are correct). For sure: this is impossible, but still...
Someone accused you to be a lier, what's the best response? For Coevett more lies. I have never ever defended Aouita from doping allegations. Never. Coevett is a pure liar and should long have been banned from this forum.
What are you talking about? Why are you so fixated on one relatively obscure Steve Ovett race from 1986? All I said was that it must have been an impressive performance from him in 86 to beat Abdi Bile over 1500m in a fast time like 3:33. I never claimed to have watched the race, I merely speculated that it sounded like a proper race in which Ovett likely pulled away from Bile. You appear to have very stark psychiatric problems if you think this casts a huge shadow over my integrity. You also appear to be a total slug if you think this is more important than such things as Aouita being linked to 'Doctor Syringe' or being chased out of Australia after pressurizing multiple athletes to take HGH.
I know Germany has a lot of hate speech laws. Are you sure doping aplogism is not on the list Said?
BTW, I don't believe you have that Ovett/Bile race on tape. If you do, and you're not a lier, upload it to YouTube.
Good enough wrote:
There was all the talk about Ingebrigtsen failing to develop as a senior but is it safe to say now that it doesn't really matter?
Lol, yes, I was looking back on one of the first Jakob threads the other night, from 2016 I think when he ran something like 3:46 as a 15 year old. Some were saying that he would likely only improve by a few more seconds over the next few years.
I think it's obvious now that (barring any unfortunate injuries or such) Jakob is going to have an amazing career and be challenging for medals at world level for perhaps more than a decade to come. It's also looking certain that he's going to be getting very close to El G's records, maybe even next year.
Somebody also posted some snapshots of LetsRun from 2003 through the WayBackMachine. Every other thread was about Alan Webb. Imagine if Jakob was American? LetsRun would probably keep crashing every time he raced.
exrunner wrote:
All I read here is pure speculation and made up data. Absolute pure nonsense rubbish with not even pretend substance to back it. You’d be laughed out of court.
Farah posts his blood and urine tests all the time. I’ve seen dozens and dozens of similar posts in the last 12 months.
Testing is completely random. They don’t turn up one morning and say ‘cheers, see you next month’.
This looks a lot like a Rekrunner post. In Africa there is no such thing as random testing.
Subway Surfers wrote:
exrunner wrote:
All I read here is pure speculation and made up data. Absolute pure nonsense rubbish with not even pretend substance to back it. You’d be laughed out of court.
Farah posts his blood and urine tests all the time. I’ve seen dozens and dozens of similar posts in the last 12 months.
Testing is completely random. They don’t turn up one morning and say ‘cheers, see you next month’.
This looks a lot like a Rekrunner post. In Africa there is no such thing as random testing.
Maybe advanced noticed random testing? ?.......?
Hill Run wrote:
rojo wrote:
I'll say this. I'd say her bombing in the 5000 certainly makes it seem more likely that she is clean than if she had come back and won both. Yet you seem to be implying her not winning gold in the 5000 somehow means she's a doper?
That makes no sense.
People who don't get drugs get tired and can't replicate back to back amazing performances.
If she was on some drug that mader her run out of her mind, why wouldn't it also work for the 5000? I'm very confused as to why you think her bombing the 5000 means she's more likely to be on drugs than if she had won it. I'd say just the opposite.
Yeah this is my view also. Ayanas detractors always point to her surpassing an already “doped” record as evidence that she must also be doping. Wang Junxia confounded credibility not by her 10WR as an individual performance, but the fact that within a ten day period she additionally ran the heats and the finals of 1500/3000 setting record times in both. - Wang was clearly a doper because she displayed an impossibly high performance intensity across different distances within a very confined timescale.
Ayana displays no such characteristics. In both Rio and London her 5k performance was a poor facsimile of what she is capable of due to her efforts in the 10k a week prior. Solo frontrunning whilst sustaining a superior pace is tremendously draining. It is this ability which sets Ayana apart from others but I also believe the effort of which dramatically robs her performance potential in the second event she runs.
Of course she could be doping also, you cannot believe or support and athlete without considering all possible sources of performance excellence both admirable or underhanded.
Yeah...she beat the "doped" record by an astonishing 13 freaking seconds! ? And things aren't the best with the easy accessibility of PEDs and poor testing in Ethiopia:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/04/doping-hotspot-ethiopia-drug-testing-epoBarrel of Laughs wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
This looks a lot like a Rekrunner post. In Africa there is no such thing as random testing.
Maybe advanced noticed random testing? ?.......?
Ha! Classic. No need for a faulty doorbell. I think it was Deanouk that posted a link to an article where Nijel Amos was being informed as soon as testers touched down in Botswana.
rojo wrote:
Subway Surfers wrote:
Rojo do you believe Ayana is clean? So she could run the 2nd half of a 10,000m at 14:24 (???) pace, yet days later a 5,000m at that pace was way too quick. Remember Ayana and Tefera are from the same country. If you answered No to my question, then chances are that there is some sort of short-life PED that isn't detectable but gives a momentary massive boost.
I'll say this. I'd say her bombing in the 5000 certainly makes it seem more likely that she is clean than if she had come back and won both. Yet you seem to be implying her not winning gold in the 5000 somehow means she's a doper?
That makes no sense.
People who don't get drugs get tired and can't replicate back to back amazing performances.
If she was on some drug that mader her run out of her mind, why wouldn't it also work for the 5000? I'm very confused as to why you think her bombing the 5000 means she's more likely to be on drugs than if she had won it. I'd say just the opposite.
My guess is a gas.
Seriously, you think someone that wiped out an epo-era Chinese WR is clean?
Barrel of Laughs wrote:
Hill Run wrote:
Yeah this is my view also. Ayanas detractors always point to her surpassing an already “doped” record as evidence that she must also be doping. Wang Junxia confounded credibility not by her 10WR as an individual performance, but the fact that within a ten day period she additionally ran the heats and the finals of 1500/3000 setting record times in both. - Wang was clearly a doper because she displayed an impossibly high performance intensity across different distances within a very confined timescale.
Ayana displays no such characteristics. In both Rio and London her 5k performance was a poor facsimile of what she is capable of due to her efforts in the 10k a week prior. Solo frontrunning whilst sustaining a superior pace is tremendously draining. It is this ability which sets Ayana apart from others but I also believe the effort of which dramatically robs her performance potential in the second event she runs.
Of course she could be doping also, you cannot believe or support and athlete without considering all possible sources of performance excellence both admirable or underhanded.
Yeah...she beat the "doped" record by an astonishing 13 freaking seconds! ? And things aren't the best with the easy accessibility of PEDs and poor testing in Ethiopia:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/aug/04/doping-hotspot-ethiopia-drug-testing-epo
I have to pretty much go along with this. There were two races in that 10k wr: Ayana, and then a bunch of other women. Even one of the commentators said after, "I don't know what to make of that". She is now knocking on the great Emil Zatopek's former wr. Before her apologists put that down to superior training and better tracks today, consider this: the 800 wr in Zatopek's era was around 1.46-47 (Rudolf Harbig, I think - set in the 40's); if a woman was running close to that time now (the present wr is 1.53xx), what would you track buffs have to say about that? And Ayana has no extra advantage like internal testes (that we know of) or transgenderism. I don't buy it. Same as the former record set by the Chinese runner.
No say it ain't so. Nothing suspicious here.