You asked for a record and I gave it, even with leeway for conversion.
The NCAA is the only fair comparison of events where they are competed with equal frequency indoors or out. At the world level many if not most top world distance athletes sit out indoors, so comparing indoor v. outdoors WRs carries implicit statistical bias towards outdoor records.
Thanks for confirming my point about this. Modern banked tracks are every bit as fast statistically as outdoor venues. The indoor mile NCAA record of 3:50 is actually faster, statistically by 1.08 conversion, than the outdoor NCAA 1500 record of 3:33.
Getting back to the subject, Citius just said they hear the pacer for the 3000 is supposed be 67 s per 400 (4:28 1600) which is 8:23 pace. Too fast for everybody but Cranny and Monson I would say.
I never predict a time because there are always these variables. This is going to be more involved than the 2018 race when the lead pace was right under the existing record. This is going to require some strategy.
Getting back to the subject, Citius just said they hear the pacer for the 3000 is supposed be 67 s per 400 (4:28 1600) which is 8:23 pace. Too fast for everybody but Cranny and Monson I would say.
The curves don't slow runners down much at 32-34 secs per indoor lap (as in women's 1500-3000). Modern indoor tracks are very fast and there is no wind, which is an advantage.
It depends more on peak form and high level races (incl. BTC style TTs). E.g. Dibaba, Purrier, Reekie, Koko, have all run faster mile races indoors than outdoors. Dibaba was 5 secs. faster in her best indoor 3000m, Muir and Tsegay have also faster 3000m indoors than outdoors and there are more examples.
Tuohy will run mostly ~35 sec. laps or slightly faster, the indoor track will not be a big factor in "slowing her down".
The wind is not a factor generally unless you have the extraordinary circumstance of headwinds in both directions…which makes no sense.
“But you really can’t fight physics. Having to negotiate twice as many turns in the same distance is why indoor track records are slower than outdoor ones. Note: At the end of the day, every race would be faster if it were run on a perfectly flat, perfectly straight line, with no curves at all.”
”In fact, indoor records are almost always slower than their outdoor equivalents, with the discrepancy usually falling in the ballpark of a 1–4 percent drop off when a race takes place inside.“
This topic has been covered here on LRC…1x1 wrote:
“Judging by the difference between the indoor and the outdoor 5000m world record: 17 minutes indoors should equal about 16:44min outdoors.”
Unless Dibaba races on another planet, the laws of Physics apply to her as well.
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Tuohy, Henes, Orton should figure out a way to work together
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Tuohy should go where she feels most comfortable. She’s also a close friend to Steelman, who show’s up with her on the latest Instagram post. Steelman runs for On, where Monson runs. Monson, Cranny and Schweitzer are the 3 leading American fustance runners.
Tuohy should go where she feels most comfortable. She’s also a close friend to Steelman, who show’s up with her on the latest Instagram post. Steelman runs for On, where Monson runs. Monson, Cranny and Schweitzer are the 3 leading American fustance runners.
Tuohy should go where she feels most comfortable. She’s also a close friend to Steelman, who show’s up with her on the latest Instagram post. Steelman runs for On, where Monson runs. Monson, Cranny and Schweitzer are the 3 leading American fustance runners.
What’s a fustance?
(Just kidding)
I was fixing it when your post knocked me out, lol 😂
I never predict a time because there are always these variables. This is going to be more involved than the 2018 race when the lead pace was right under the existing record. This is going to require some strategy.
Agreed…Tuohy should stay vigilant in order to not let her laps deteriorate to 36’s, which could easily happen. Even if this means moving ahead of her buddy, Elly. Unless there are time trial numbers for Henes/Orton over the last 10 days or so, the emphasis should be to establish ‘an honest pace’ early, independent on who is in her immediate vicinity. This race is not a team exercise.
Unbelievable. You creeps are still lusting over a teenager? Get your priorities straight and leave the girl alone, freaks. To the poster above who wanted to squirt a load in her mouth, that is beyond inappropriate. Just wrong.
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