Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

But isn’t that what Trump supporters are?

He’s just mad they left out “inbred.”

trump supporters are, on average, richer than democrats.

never forget that.

but there is a significant portion of trump supporters who do so out of bad motives. Racial hatred. Fear of immigrants. Love for tyranny. Class hatred.

Same for Dems of course.

As the walls continue to close in on trump, he is getting ever more nervous, now needing to distance himself from Cohen and contemplating whether to try to tango with Mueller. None of this is going to help him and he will fight it to the very end, convinced he can continue to fool his sheep and be saved by public opinion. Trump is not compatible with law and order.

Trump's words on Manafort, who was just sent to jail for witness tampering:

Wow, what a tough sentence for Paul Manafort, who has represented Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole and many other top political people and campaigns. Didn’t know Manafort was the head of the Mob. What about Comey and Crooked Hillary and all of the others? Very unfair!

“Manafort has nothing to do with our campaign,”

“You know, Paul Manafort worked for me for a very short period of time,”

“I feel badly for some people because they’ve gone back 12 years to find things about somebody, and I don’t think it’s right that they burst into a lawyer’s office on a weekend and early in the morning,”

“I’ve never heard of that before,” “I mean, could you imagine if they burst into Barack Obama’s lawyer’s office. It would not be acceptable. I mean, that’s really a terrible thing.”

“I feel badly for a lot of those people. I feel badly for General Flynn,” the president continued, referring to his short-lived national security adviser Michael Flynn, who pleaded guilty in December to lying to the FBI about his contacts with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

“He’s lost his house,” Trump said. “He’s lost his life, and some people say he’s lied. Some people say he didn’t lie. I mean, really it turned out maybe he didn’t lie.”

So, does he have to be convicted to be pardoned since it's "very unfair"?

thought experiment:

let's say Trump pardons Manafort and Cohen.

Would that affect his RCP approval rating?

I'd say no. That his people would close to 100% approve of the pardons, and rationalize them as fighting back against the deep state.

and you know Gorsuch.

And if it doesn't affect his approval rating, then the repubs in congress won't do a darn thing about it either.

Trollminator wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Intellectually and emotionally incapable of seeing the other side.

More like over and progressively speaking light years ahead of the other side. You seem to think liberals and conservatives need to agree with each other when they never have and never will, which does not mean both sides can’t coexist and benefit. Your side is falsely convinced that it is the deep state and liberal globalists that are responsible for your problems. FOX has been telling you that and Trump has reassured you. You know what that’s called? A scapegoat.

Also you are under the impression that liberals need to understand and appeal to trumpers in order to “win”, when all that is needed is slightly better democratic voter turnout. You know this.

One thing changed in the last 4 years that almost no one talks about. Normal political campaigning is to trash the other guy's candidates, but be very careful about trashing the other guy's voters because you're trying to get them to switch sides! After Obama won re-election in 2012 Dems/Libs decided that they finally had a coalition of victims big enough to overwhelm the old white villains forever. They thought demographics were on their side and they could openly slander white men on a constant basis as a way to solidify support from every victim group that had supposedly suffered at their hands for millennia. They gave up on a big part of their base, working class white men because they thought they didn't need them anymore. They could ride the wave of hating whitey and stay in power until all the old white men died off.

They violated political rule #1 and trashed the other guy's voters, bigly.

That is what changed. That is what has made our politics so caustic. This is why we can't get along or find common ground. And this is why Trump won.

It is extremely dangerous to continue to promote that kind of hatred and I hope someone high up in the Democrat party puts a stop to it soon.

Please tell me there's liberal out there who can understand this and respond in a sensible way. ( I know they can't, but I keep hoping.)

Yep and he forgot to mention Manafort operated illegally as a foreign agent for years, helping to put the most evil scum of the earth in power. And any ignorance on Trump’s part doesn’t absolve him one bit.

agip wrote:

trump supporters are, on average, richer than democrats.

never forget that.

trump supports want, on average, to destroy the poor - leave them for dead because they are mostly minorities; animals. that is why they do not, and never will, support trump.

never forget that.

trump supports are, on average, lower in intellect than democrats

never forget that.

agip wrote:

thought experiment:

let's say Trump pardons Manafort and Cohen.

Would that affect his RCP approval rating?

I'd say no. That his people would close to 100% approve of the pardons, and rationalize them as fighting back against the deep state.

and you know Gorsuch.

And if it doesn't affect his approval rating, then the repubs in congress won't do a darn thing about it either.

This is why, when political pundits say it would be politically a very bad thing for Trump to start pardoning everyone or even firing Mueller, I think that this would be true in a former political situation. With the cult-like fascination those who, in his own words, follow Trump I just don't see it being a big deal.

He's broken down a lot of barriers which I'm not sure can be put back up and I'm pretty sure this isn't a good thing for the country.

DiscoGary wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

What a total snowflake. Your links explain everything we already know a bout you -- you are a racist-deplorable. Grow a pair.

If you want "liberals" to believe in "your" side then stop the bigoted attacks on minorities. It is as simple as that. Let immigrants come to the USA again. Respect other races and cultures. Respect other countries. Can you do that? Your orange president cannot.

They thought demographics were on their side and they could openly slander white men on a constant basis )

yeah, show me where the democrats openly slander white men on a constant basis. I must have missed today's two minutes hate

give me a few clips. Must be easy to do if it is on a constant basis. the democratic party.

go.

Good God it's painful to watch you guys delude yourselves like this. Failing to report as a foreign agent is a very common thing in DC. Violations are usually ignored when the person simply corrects their status. This is not treason.

Of the 275 filings, POGO’s analysis found that 127 were filed with DOJ more than two business days after the date of transmission; 42 of the 127 were filed more than 30 business days later; and 33 were filed more than 100 business days later.

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Criminal and civil enforcement of FARA, particularly the regulations regarding informational materials, have been minimal in the recent past.

L L wrote:

Trump's words on Manafort, who was just sent to jail for witness tampering:

Wow, what a tough sentence for Paul Manafort, who has represented Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole and many other top political people and campaigns.

More Trump BS. The spy Trump claimed infiltrated his campaign was a economics and policy researcher, Stefan Halper, and a lifelong Republican, who served Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr and Bush Jr. Far, far more service to republicans. A level Manfort can not touch. But that was not enough for Trump to go after Halper and destroying his life.

Yes, Hillary messed up in making a single disparaging comment about a group of voters.

And yes, Democrats underestimated how many racist voters are in this country.

agip wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

They thought demographics were on their side and they could openly slander white men on a constant basis )

yeah, show me where the democrats openly slander white men on a constant basis. I must have missed today's two minutes hate

give me a few clips. Must be easy to do if it is on a constant basis. the democratic party.

go.

Uh, er, hmmmm, gee let's see if I can think of something. Oh yeah, how about the endless accusations that Trump voters are old uneducated angry white supremacists! I would google it for examples but I don't want to shut down the internet.

I don’t disagree with much of your post, but you have to be delusional to believe this is a 1 party issue. You forgot to mention the GOP has also demonized liberals and minorities along with almost every policy that is perceived to help this group. You also forgot to mention the GOP embarked on a hate and blame strategy and has completely deviated from their old value system, resulting in disgruntled voters and a huge wedge in the party, one which allowed Trump to take advantage of. That he was the victor does not mean his method was right. You may be right that this issue impacted the results, but rest assured his win was not only attributable to people being sick of the hatred. Democratic turnout was very weak because of the genera dislike of Hillary, and many trumpers also voted hoping the outsider might do better.

It is insane for you to not see open hatred being promoted on the republican side. I can easily argue the hatred on the conservative side is much worse than on the liberal side, but I will stop at the blaming both parties. Do you agree?

DiscoGary wrote:

agip wrote:

yeah, show me where the democrats openly slander white men on a constant basis. I must have missed today's two minutes hate

give me a few clips. Must be easy to do if it is on a constant basis. the democratic party.

go.

Uh, er, hmmmm, gee let's see if I can think of something. Oh yeah, how about the endless accusations that Trump voters are old uneducated angry white supremacists! I would google it for examples but I don't want to shut down the internet.

you are saying that the democratic party on a constant basis calls trump voters old uneducated angry white supremacists. whaoh - more crack research from DG that no one else has ever found. You are truly the greatest investigative journo who ever lived. You have all this stuff that no one else has.

Stunner.

oh wait - you haven't shown me any of this constant roar of democratic party hate. maybe...maybe...maybe...you are a bser. Could that be?

It is criminal regardless and you don’t dispute he helped empower evil people, often enemies of the US. Why are you trying to water it down?

L L wrote:

Yes, Hillary messed up in making a single disparaging comment about a group of voters.

And yes, Democrats underestimated how many racist voters are in this country.

It is time to split the US into two. The USA and TrumpCountry. As when India split up for religious reasons (India / Pakistan) people could cross over to the side they wanted to be on. The USSR split up was simpler; by republics (states). It can be done. The USA would be the larger by far. TrumpCountry would be significantly smaller--with several, but not all, of the midwestern red states.