pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
This is one of the problems of a primary system where you vote for your own party only.
How many votes was 93%? 930?
If you count the cows and sheep...
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
This is one of the problems of a primary system where you vote for your own party only.
How many votes was 93%? 930?
If you count the cows and sheep...
DiscoGary wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Didn't you know Gary studied politics carefully for decades.. lets take his word for it. What I find most amusing is that his worldview has not become a "solution" for progress... meaning Trump fits with his worldview, and Trump won, so that can only mean he was right all along... never mind the decades over which he wasn't right. What will happen to these folks when Trumpland crashes out?
Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
No property rights there, but who cares as you so rightly pointed out, because the Declaration is not our rule book.
Constitution:
14th : "A state shall not violate a citizen's privileges or immunities; shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law."
So it IS in the Constitution, and it's there explicitly.
You both should be embarrassed for not knowing that.
'I do' , take notice how the Constitution, the rule book, gets attacked. Under no circumstances can Dems/Libs allow themselves to be constrained by its limitations. Why push back so hard against rules designed to protect people and guarantee their freedom? There's a good reason for that and it requires an explanation. Human nature has a dark side that the founders knew about as well. You need to include that in your world view. That's up next.
It’s sad, but not surprising, that people like pop_pop and Trollimator don’t know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
I guess they don’t teach that in schools anymore. Too difficult for millennials, perhaps.
Trump's People wrote:
Only in Trumpland. Lose office for being caught as a pervert. Earn even an YUGE percentage of the Trumper vote.
93 percent of North Dakota Republicans voted for a candidate who is now dropping out for being a peeping Tom. Despite being outed on May 20 for charges stemming from a peeping Tom incident, North Dakota’s GOP secretary of state nominee Will Gardner won 93 percent of the vote. Now, he’s officially dropped out of the race.
https://www.inforum.com/news/government-and-politics/4448876-nd-secretary-state-candidate-drops-out-raising-questions-about
Yeah but, according to his wife; "(she and Gardner) haven’t missed a Sunday Mass since they were married and also had never missed a sacrament for one of their seven kids."
So, that obviously makes him a morally sound individual!
Further, she states empahtically that Garner is "a man who is a true provider for his family.” which is a very high standard indeed! There surely aren't many of those around.
Bad Ed wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Declaration of Independence:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
No property rights there, but who cares as you so rightly pointed out, because the Declaration is not our rule book.
Constitution:
14th : "A state shall not violate a citizen's privileges or immunities; shall not deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law."
So it IS in the Constitution, and it's there explicitly.
You both should be embarrassed for not knowing that.
'I do' , take notice how the Constitution, the rule book, gets attacked. Under no circumstances can Dems/Libs allow themselves to be constrained by its limitations. Why push back so hard against rules designed to protect people and guarantee their freedom? There's a good reason for that and it requires an explanation. Human nature has a dark side that the founders knew about as well. You need to include that in your world view. That's up next.
It’s sad, but not surprising, that people like pop_pop and Trollimator don’t know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
Gary is the moran who thinks the Constitution is world view vision document. It is a Rule Book (Gary's words) which the present administration, and the current version, of the republican party are raping at will.
Interesting constitutional issue here - a trumper saying Trump isn't wrong...it's the Constitution that is wrong. Sounds worse than it is.
In the US, the AG is appointed by the president but then expected to be independent. But can be fired by the president. Independence...but offering advice.
It's a wacky setup and not what other countries do. Trump wants Sessions to be loyal, but all that there is stopping Sessions from helping Trump is norms. Not the constitution.
So there's another example where the constitution is flawed.
"The President wasn't wrong when he said he wants his Attorney General to be loyal. It's the constitution that's wrong for allowing that kind of division to occur."
Hey look! Even Trey Gowdy noticed how justice for Hillary is different than justice for Trump:
Moreover, the treatment afforded to former Secretary Clinton and other potential subjects and targets was starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials. Voluntariness and consent in the former were replaced with search warrants, subpoenas, and other compulsory processes in the latter. Many of the investigators and supervisors were the same in both investigations but the investigatory tactics were not.
The FBI exists to serve the interests of Democrats. It's rotten to the core, and a clear and present danger to the republic. Time to fire damn near everyone there and start over.
DiscoGary wrote:
Hey look! Even Trey Gowdy noticed how justice for Hillary is different than justice for Trump:
Moreover, the treatment afforded to former Secretary Clinton and other potential subjects and targets was starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials. Voluntariness and consent in the former were replaced with search warrants, subpoenas, and other compulsory processes in the latter. Many of the investigators and supervisors were the same in both investigations but the investigatory tactics were not.
The FBI exists to serve the interests of Democrats. It's rotten to the core, and a clear and present danger to the republic. Time to fire damn near everyone there and start over.
Or it could be because Hillary co-operates, Trump obstructs.
devils advocated wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Hey look! Even Trey Gowdy noticed how justice for Hillary is different than justice for Trump:
Moreover, the treatment afforded to former Secretary Clinton and other potential subjects and targets was starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials. Voluntariness and consent in the former were replaced with search warrants, subpoenas, and other compulsory processes in the latter. Many of the investigators and supervisors were the same in both investigations but the investigatory tactics were not.
The FBI exists to serve the interests of Democrats. It's rotten to the core, and a clear and present danger to the republic. Time to fire damn near everyone there and start over.
Or it could be because Hillary co-operates, Trump obstructs.
Hillary did not cooperate.
DiscoGary wrote:
devils advocated wrote:
Or it could be because Hillary co-operates, Trump obstructs.
Hillary did not cooperate.
^FAKE CLAIM.
Hillary sat for hours and hours being grilled by republicans. An 11-hour long grilling was the longest.
LairGary wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
Hillary did not cooperate.
^FAKE CLAIM.
Hillary sat for hours and hours being grilled by republicans. An 11-hour long grilling was the longest.
What George means is that Hillary did not cooperate because she did not claim the guilt Republicans insisted must be true.
agip wrote:
Interesting constitutional issue here - a trumper saying Trump isn't wrong...it's the Constitution that is wrong. Sounds worse than it is.
In the US, the AG is appointed by the president but then expected to be independent. But can be fired by the president. Independence...but offering advice.
It's a wacky setup and not what other countries do. Trump wants Sessions to be loyal, but all that there is stopping Sessions from helping Trump is norms. Not the constitution.
So there's another example where the constitution is flawed.
"The President wasn't wrong when he said he wants his Attorney General to be loyal. It's the constitution that's wrong for allowing that kind of division to occur."
I think the framework was set up with the assumption that we wouldn’t put a complete imbecil scumbag dictator wannabe in the WH.
DiscoGary wrote:
Hey look! Even Trey Gowdy noticed how justice for Hillary is different than justice for Trump:
Moreover, the treatment afforded to former Secretary Clinton and other potential subjects and targets was starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials. Voluntariness and consent in the former were replaced with search warrants, subpoenas, and other compulsory processes in the latter. Many of the investigators and supervisors were the same in both investigations but the investigatory tactics were not.
The FBI exists to serve the interests of Democrats. It's rotten to the core, and a clear and present danger to the republic. Time to fire damn near everyone there and start over.
Gary's only purpose in life must be to obfuscate and gaslight. What a slimy individual.
Trollminator wrote:
agip wrote:
Interesting constitutional issue here - a trumper saying Trump isn't wrong...it's the Constitution that is wrong. Sounds worse than it is.
In the US, the AG is appointed by the president but then expected to be independent. But can be fired by the president. Independence...but offering advice.
It's a wacky setup and not what other countries do. Trump wants Sessions to be loyal, but all that there is stopping Sessions from helping Trump is norms. Not the constitution.
So there's another example where the constitution is flawed.
"The President wasn't wrong when he said he wants his Attorney General to be loyal. It's the constitution that's wrong for allowing that kind of division to occur."
I think the framework was set up with the assumption that we wouldn’t put a complete imbecil scumbag dictator wannabe in the WH.
Clearly the Founding Fathers overestimated the collective intelligence of the American electorate.
PIO! wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
I think the framework was set up with the assumption that we wouldn’t put a complete imbecil scumbag dictator wannabe in the WH.
Clearly the Founding Fathers overestimated the collective intelligence of the American electorate.
Even they couldn’t have predicted how dumb the future would be
Trump has selected a border facility as the location for a new prison camp to house terrorized migrant children who have been separated from their parents. We will be placing kids on lockdown in tents in the El Paso summer heat, Arpaio style. This is necessary because the Walmart child prisons are overcrowded due to all of the other children who we've separated from their parents.
America is so great now.
devils advocated wrote:
PIO! wrote:
Clearly the Founding Fathers overestimated the collective intelligence of the American electorate.
Even they couldn’t have predicted how dumb the future would be
No but Idiocracy did a pretty good job, and it happened much sooner than in the movie
By_George wrote:
LairGary wrote:
^FAKE CLAIM.
Hillary sat for hours and hours being grilled by republicans. An 11-hour long grilling was the longest.
What George means is that Hillary did not cooperate because she did not claim the guilt Republicans insisted must be true.
^^^ this is it. They were told for years that HRC was evil and a crook, but all that happened is she was cleared time after time. So now here we are being told that Trump is criminal and a traitor and guess what, if he's cleared most of us won't blame the deep state (even though with Trump's mob boss mentality this is the closest we have gotten to seeing a real deep state). That is a major difference between conservatives and liberals today, conservatives are dumb drunk on Trump's kool aid and will make up whatever they need to in order to justify the orange one's doings.
Declaration wrote:
Bad Ed wrote:
It’s sad, but not surprising, that people like pop_pop and Trollimator don’t know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.
Gary is the moran who thinks the Constitution is world view vision document. It is a Rule Book (Gary's words) which the present administration, and the current version, of the republican party are raping at will.
Proof?
Trollminator wrote:
agip wrote:
Interesting constitutional issue here - a trumper saying Trump isn't wrong...it's the Constitution that is wrong. Sounds worse than it is.
In the US, the AG is appointed by the president but then expected to be independent. But can be fired by the president. Independence...but offering advice.
It's a wacky setup and not what other countries do. Trump wants Sessions to be loyal, but all that there is stopping Sessions from helping Trump is norms. Not the constitution.
So there's another example where the constitution is flawed.
"The President wasn't wrong when he said he wants his Attorney General to be loyal. It's the constitution that's wrong for allowing that kind of division to occur."
I think the framework was set up with the assumption that we wouldn’t put a complete imbecil scumbag dictator wannabe in the WH.
Stop talking about Obama. He is no longer POTUS.
Trump making China great again.
http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/14/news/economy/trump-china-tariffs/index.html