Look everyone, another trumper trantrum from Rigged
Look everyone, another trumper trantrum from Rigged
Umbuntu wrote:
agip wrote:
he paid lots and lots and lots and lots of fines instead
did I mention campaign finance crimes? I didn't, did I?
Yeah that too - he broke lots of campaign finance laws
But he slays the libs so you don't care.
Can you list all hi s"crimes" and the fines he paid?
no, but you can use "google.com" to look it up.
Here's a start, but you'll have to poke around more to find them all.
Glad you at least care about his crimes.
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+paid+fines&rlz=1C1AVNE_enUS614US614&oq=trump+paid+fines&aqs=chrome..69i57.6968j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8This is what fascism looks like:
I do! wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
So much to cover, and so little time. I will try to do this without going back to first principles, but it will be more chaotic that way.
The most helpful thing you need to know right off the bat is how to look at the political landscape, the people in it, how they behave and why. This is how to do that:
Politics is a team sport.
So you should look at the political parties as teams on a playing field, with people as hard core fans cheering for their team, ignoring fouls by their own guys while thinking that every foul by the other team is a crime against humanity. The way you win the game is by convincing fans from the other side to come over to your side of the stands.
The MSM/Academia/Harveywood are the cheer leaders for the Democrat/liberal team and it's their job to make sure that liberal fans don't see fouls committed by Democrats, while doing everything they can to make it look like the Republican/conservative team are cheating every step of the way.
The result of the MSM cheer leading is wall of misinformation, lies, innuendo, smears, and obfuscation that creates an alternate reality I call the Liberal Media Rat Maze, where liberals who don't actively try to pay attention to what's happening on the field end up believing the MSM cheers (their own side's propaganda) which has very little to do with what's happening in the real world. This is what it means to get stuck in the Liberal Media Rat Maze.
Getting out is simple, but almost impossible at the same time. All you have to do is stop listening to the cheers, and see what's happening on the field. For example, Dems/liberals portrayed Trump's tax cuts as a disaster for the country and a mega disaster for the little guy, but if you look at the playing field the economy boomed and unemployment is down to record levels for minorities. The Rat Maze is an illusion. See reality, and you're out!
That sounds easy to do, but it aint easy to admit the Packers are a good team if you're a Bears fan, so loyalty plays into it. Maybe you see the tax cuts working, but you know, you just KNOW the other team is still full of evil cheating bastords. You will sit on your side of the stands for a looong time and it will take a whole lot of reality to get you out of that seat and over to the other side to join people you've hated for 20 years.
Did that help? I'll throw some first principles at you next. You really can't move forward without them.
That makes a lot of sense. I see A LOT of that on this thread. Things Obama did or tried and was lauded for and Trump has also done are now somehow bad for our country or economy. It hasn't made sense to me until reading that analogy.
What are the principles?
Hey George (Lying Gary, Truth Seakr, I do! . . . ): Your "Ido!" routine looks exactly as ridiculous and pathetic as Flagpole's "noticer of dominance" skit.
Just thought you should know.
Umbuntu wrote:
agip wrote:
trump has been found guilty of multiple crimes. Money laundering, casino law, tax evasion, etc. You aren't aware of this?
MSM is in Trump's pocket, the jerkhats.
Really? Why is he not in jail?
Oops. My bigly bad. He is GOING to be in jail, soon. Oops.
Hats 2 B Shed wrote:
I do! wrote:
That makes a lot of sense. I see A LOT of that on this thread. Things Obama did or tried and was lauded for and Trump has also done are now somehow bad for our country or economy. It hasn't made sense to me until reading that analogy.
What are the principles?
Hey George (Lying Gary, Truth Seakr, I do! . . . ): Your "Ido!" routine looks exactly as ridiculous and pathetic as Flagpole's "noticer of dominance" skit.
Just thought you should know.
He is known as mal-adjusted-mo for obvious reasons.
agip wrote:
Umbuntu wrote:
Can you list all hi s"crimes" and the fines he paid?
no, but you can use "google.com" to look it up.
Here's a start, but you'll have to poke around more to find them all.
Glad you at least care about his crimes.
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+paid+fines&rlz=1C1AVNE_enUS614US614&oq=trump+paid+fines&aqs=chrome..69i57.6968j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
You know why he won't list them? They don't exist. Just another liar.
Umbuntu wrote:
agip wrote:
trump has been found guilty of multiple crimes. Money laundering, casino law, tax evasion, etc. You aren't aware of this?
MSM is in Trump's pocket, the jerkhats.
Really? Why is he not in jail?
DEEP STATE!
If only you could lift your head above the RAT MAZE that you are trapped in!
MSM! Look it up!
Cvck! (Oh wait, that was yesterday's instructions)
Hillary!
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
This is what fascism looks like:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/392074-lobbyist-turned-wine-blogger-vetting-un-state-dept-personnel-for
Now Trump is a fascist. You loony guys never disappoint.
DiscoGary wrote:
Clearly Trump does not control the Deep State. It's not clear if ANYONE controls the Deep State, other than it has a loyalty to big, unconstrained government, because it IS big unconstrained government!
I want to remind everyone that before the election I was pointing out that among Trump's enemies one of his most formidable foes would be "the bureaucracy", which is now commonly called the "Deep State". I was one of the ONLY people anywhere throwing that red flag. Go check it out.
Gary, Your bogeyman "big unconstrained government" only purpose is to sow seeds of doubt.
You have clean water delivered to your home.
You have power and heat very reliably delivered to your home.
You have a national roads network.
You have functioning law enforcement.
You have one of the best function postal systems in the world.
You have reliable emergency services.
You have a functioning judiciary.
America's economy seems to be more active than most of the rest of the world.
You have an expensive health care system, but, it is generally speaking close by.
You have a functioning telecommunications network that is stuck in the 1980s, but still covers a very large amount of geography.
That's all thanks to your "big unconstrained government." And yet you are convinced that it is a bad thing.
Trumpism wrote:Now Trump is a fascist. You loony guys never disappoint.
Trump's presidency has none of the traits listed below. Not one!
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.htmlpop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Trumpism wrote:Now Trump is a fascist. You loony guys never disappoint.
Trump's presidency has none of the traits listed below. Not one!
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html
Amazing. We are not there yet a nation of 40-45 percent wanna bees led by Trump himself who pretty much hits all those points. Attacking news media again today, actors yesterday, democratic foreign leaders over the weekend. And 'the base' just eats this up.
It has taken months for me to chime in but Trump is a freakin moron. How anyone can still support this buffoon is beyond me. Of course all his blind supporters will continue to support him even as they cart him out of the white house in hand cuffs. Of course Drumpf as is his real name will blame the deep state when he is ushered out. As Drumpf would say......#SAD!
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
This is what fascism looks like:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/392074-lobbyist-turned-wine-blogger-vetting-un-state-dept-personnel-for
Sure. You've just described HRC to a T! Dictatorship Clinton but she still lost. Wonder what she's up to now with her stolen millions? Hmmmm.....
SWEDES wrote:
It has taken months for me to chime in but Trump is a freakin moron. How anyone can still support this buffoon is beyond me. Of course all his blind supporters will continue to support him even as they cart him out of the white house in hand cuffs. Of course Drumpf as is his real name will blame the deep state when he is ushered out. As Drumpf would say......#SAD!
Yes, Hillary was and still is a freakin moron Flagpole. How you supported such a crook is beyond reasonable thinking. Of course you blinded supported her and looked the other way as she lied to a panel about emails, Benghazi, the Ripoff Foundation, etc...yes, she was a criminal and still is. EVIL is the best way to describe her. See TravelGate, then get back to us. SICK what she did to that old man and his family, but you supported it.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Trumpism wrote:Now Trump is a fascist. You loony guys never disappoint.
Trump's presidency has none of the traits listed below. Not one!
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html
Interesting source there. Hahahahaha
pop_pop_!v2.2.1 wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
This is what fascism looks like:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/392074-lobbyist-turned-wine-blogger-vetting-un-state-dept-personnel-forSure. You've just described HRC to a T! Dictatorship Clinton but she still lost. Wonder what she's up to now with her stolen millions? Hmmmm.....
I guess she’s o longer taking those walks in the woods where people would just happen upon her.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Trumpism wrote:Now Trump is a fascist. You loony guys never disappoint.
Trump's presidency has none of the traits listed below. Not one!
https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html
Here ya go Hillary Lovers! THESE ARE FACTS!!!!!!!!!! Listen to what Bill and Hillary did, SICK BULLIES!!!!!!!
How could any of you supported this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqYOXtXOFlYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huoCo_uX5dQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KixXWBF7MZkTotally made up the video crap about Benghazi, big surprise!
LL, Trollminator, Flagpole, you believe all of these facts are made up by Roger Stone, but your links are factual? Laughable at best.
I do! wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
So much to cover, and so little time. I will try to do this without going back to first principles, but it will be more chaotic that way.
The most helpful thing you need to know right off the bat is how to look at the political landscape, the people in it, how they behave and why. This is how to do that:
Politics is a team sport.
So you should look at the political parties as teams on a playing field, with people as hard core fans cheering for their team, ignoring fouls by their own guys while thinking that every foul by the other team is a crime against humanity. The way you win the game is by convincing fans from the other side to come over to your side of the stands.
The MSM/Academia/Harveywood are the cheer leaders for the Democrat/liberal team and it's their job to make sure that liberal fans don't see fouls committed by Democrats, while doing everything they can to make it look like the Republican/conservative team are cheating every step of the way.
The result of the MSM cheer leading is wall of misinformation, lies, innuendo, smears, and obfuscation that creates an alternate reality I call the Liberal Media Rat Maze, where liberals who don't actively try to pay attention to what's happening on the field end up believing the MSM cheers (their own side's propaganda) which has very little to do with what's happening in the real world. This is what it means to get stuck in the Liberal Media Rat Maze.
Getting out is simple, but almost impossible at the same time. All you have to do is stop listening to the cheers, and see what's happening on the field. For example, Dems/liberals portrayed Trump's tax cuts as a disaster for the country and a mega disaster for the little guy, but if you look at the playing field the economy boomed and unemployment is down to record levels for minorities. The Rat Maze is an illusion. See reality, and you're out!
That sounds easy to do, but it aint easy to admit the Packers are a good team if you're a Bears fan, so loyalty plays into it. Maybe you see the tax cuts working, but you know, you just KNOW the other team is still full of evil cheating bastords. You will sit on your side of the stands for a looong time and it will take a whole lot of reality to get you out of that seat and over to the other side to join people you've hated for 20 years.
Did that help? I'll throw some first principles at you next. You really can't move forward without them.
That makes a lot of sense. I see A LOT of that on this thread. Things Obama did or tried and was lauded for and Trump has also done are now somehow bad for our country or economy. It hasn't made sense to me until reading that analogy.
What are the principles?
You can join me in my luxury skybox while we ignore the hecklers in the cheap seats. You'll have to forgive them. They can't see much from where they're sitting. Relax and help yourself to a beer and some mini hot dogs.
Let's assume you're looking past the cheer leaders and watching what's happening on the field. Well, ignoring the cheer leaders is a lot more profound than it first sounds because it means you are not counting on ANYONE to explain the game to you. Not even me.
You need to decide what the goal of the game should be. How do you keep score? What really matters? The cheer leading, the demonization, trying to get people to your side ... all that's political stuff, but now you have to decide on and "ideology".
Politics is the struggle to attain the necessary power to force others to live by your ideology.
Your ideology is how you think society should be governed based on your values and your view of the world.
In the football analogy the elements of ideology are:
Values = How do we score the game? What counts as winning? (Standard of living, individual freedom, social justice, civil rights, group rights, environment, income equality?)
View of the World = The laws of physics. If you don't understand these, then you will NEVER understand what's happening on the field, and you will never be able to predict the consequences of the next play. ( economics, human nature, etc ) Liberals struggle with this.
How you think society should be governed = The rules of the game. ( Constitution, federalism, capitalism, socialism?)
Note that many political disagreements occur when one side argues ideology while the other engages in politics. I am constantly trying to convince liberals in the stands to change their values or view of the world, while the cheer leaders try to make sure their people never hear a word of it. If you saw an argument between me and another ideologue you would never know it happened because it would go by so fast, and with so little heat generated that you would think we had just decided where to go to lunch.
Also, note that the laws of physics can not be broken and any attempt to do so will end up hurting people, just like in real life! Liberals constantly think they can change the laws of physics by writing a new rule for the game. This is their downfall. For example, they thought that passing ObamaCare could violate the laws of economics and somehow make health care cheaper for everyone. It failed, not because I'm a white supremacist, but because IT COULD NOT SUCCEED. Football players can not fly, and writing a rule which says they can will not make it so.
So the first principles are your values combined with your view of the world, which then lead to how you think society should be governed. If your first principles are flawed, and you are writing the rule book ... then that's bad for everyone. In the next post I will provide you with sound first principles which will not lead you down the wrong path.