In Herriman’s coach’s interview he said kids choose Herriman because of their xc program, and they recruit runners. How many of these Utah and other schools do that. Because Downers Grove North is a public school with rules against this. Would be interesting to compare the recruiting high schools vs non recruiting.
What has been going on with Culpepper? Niwot had 3 single digit scoring runners today...Wonder how much Niwot would score if Culpepper was running better...Is he sick? injured?.....Most teams don't loose their number 1 runner then take it too the rest of the country
Jane Hedengren would've placed 87th in the boy's race.
She’s on a professional level right now, period. Leachman ran against the pros before and did okay and Engelhardt got 2nd at a pro race and she gapped both these ladies today majorly
Relax. Leachman is still recovering from an illness and Engelhardt is dealing with an injury. Beating two high school girls who aren't totally healthy doesn't mean someone is on a professional level.
Hedengren is a great high school runner. Maybe one day she'll be a pro but she isn't right now. Let's not get carried away.
Very impressed by the Northeast’s Madeleine Lane. Her 3200m PR from this spring was 11:34, and she just finished 42nd at NXN. Definitely goes to show what’s possible
When I look back, are the better career runners coming from the Footlocker or the NXN winners? There's great runners from each, but I'm guessing that NXN produces better career runners. (Remembering that Footlocker has a longer history)
Races like today's in Portland requires tough as hell runners.
See above post. NOT EVEN CLOSE
FL FTW
Except your post ignores that when Hocker won FL he lost NXN the week before
let's not do this... It's probably really hard for him and many others who are in a similar positions. There were many teams today that had someone important blow up. It should be expected in this kind of race
let's not do this... It's probably really hard for him and many others who are in a similar positions. There were many teams today that had someone important blow up. It should be expected in this kind of race
Anonymous or no, we’re talking about kids here. Have some discretion and compassion.
It's pretty wild to me that Soles whined and moaned for years about the unfairness of having 8th graders and the inequality of having to run every year on a muddy course, but he's perfectly ok with taking advantage if his state's transfer rules. I'm aware that Utah and Colorado both have open enrollment laws, are there other states who do as well? That law is a king-maker, any school with strong coaching who has a few strong runners can all of a sudden become a juggernaut. No wonder the SW schools look so strong, that is an insurmountable advantage. I count at least three transfers on the MV team, I'm curious who the top truly public school was without any transfers. Delmar?
Here’s what Herriman’s coach said. “You’ll see kids come from all over the place” “I’m sure we’ll see kids come our way” “I’m not an active recruiter” “But we do see kids say ‘Hey, I can get to NXN with this group, maybe I’ll go to that school”. “We will probably see some kids move over”
I want to set things straight for all those attributing SW dominance at NXN to conditions. Nobody from SW is accustomed to those conditions. SLC and Denver get among the least precipitation in the country - total precipitation is similar to Los Angeles. The climate is dry. The cross country season is rarely cold in Colorado. I bet not a single XR race in the Colorado front range (where everyone lives) was run on a day when the high temperature was less than 60. I don't think we got significant rain in Colorado's front range all fall. I lived in California for 34 years and in Colorado for the last 20. The courses in Colorado are fairly similar to California - hard packed dirt or crushed grinder trails, maybe with a little bit of grass. The state meet courses are not dissimilar. I bet most runners in Colorado hadn't worn spikes all season until NXR unless they raced out of state. So please stop saying SW is accustomed to Portland conditions. They are not. The SW is just much, much better than any other region.
Mostly true...but CO, even the Front Range sees temps in mornings much colder than today and certainly colder than most of CA. ...and two and four weeks ago the entire Front Range had one foot dumps of snow that Denver, Niwot, and especially Academy had to train through. They might not get the rain of Portland but they get snow and cold in November
I live in Colorado, and yes we have had snow but it is usually melts in a day or two. And 35 degrees with sun at altitude is not the same as 35 degrees in Oregon. It just isn't.
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