We have received an email from Conor Holt, Camille's husband, taking responsibility for the edits. Email here.
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I'm fine living with a healthy dose of skepticism in my life, but I personally get uncomfortable when I'm tempted to question or look into people's personal health information and histories. It's too parasocial and involved for me. She disclosed, I'll hold that information until it changes. But that's my approach!
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HI96704 wrote:
I can't wait for this to make it into the podcast now that track season is over and fall marathon season has yet to start. FINALLY ULTRA RUNNING WILL BE FEATURED FOR AN ENTIRE LRC PODCAST!
(yet somehow I know there's still going to be 30 minutes dedicated to the mens 1500)
How many digs will there about about how watered down the sport of ultra running is?
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tbf to TXRG, she mentioned Camille was helpful with some health issues she faced a long time ago.
Damn that's sucks. she came and spoke at are running banquet one year. she seemed pretty cool and everything. Sad to see her acting this way
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As far as "mental illness," what we do know is she is neurodivergent, diagnosed with both autism and ADHD, both of which are cognitive disabilities, not mental illness. You can find a lot of info online about how ND traits can look a lot like narcissism.
Again, my intention is not use her autism/ADHD as an excuse (avoiding blame), but rather as a reason/contributor for her behavior.
We don't know that. We know she said she was diagnosed as such.
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She can be pretty cool. I do believe that she's basically a good-natured person. But she is socially clueless and her husband Conor pushes all the wrong buttons. They make a toxic combination that I have been on the wrong end of many times.
The ground truth is that Camille and Conor only care about Camille. It's literally "World Record or go home" for them. Team depending on you? Screw that. Others have success too? Screw them.
One thing the media has so far not picked up on is that her Lululemon contract reportedly gives her a $50K bonus per WR. She set 12 of them at the (staged, closed) FURTHER event this spring (many of them GOMU "non-standard" distance records, but Lululemon advertised them as WRs, so presumably they paid out for them). So even if Lululemon dumps her now they won't exactly be hurting financially for a while.
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She can be pretty cool. I do believe that she's basically a good-natured person. But she is socially clueless and her husband Conor pushes all the wrong buttons. They make a toxic combination that I have been on the wrong end of many times.
The ground truth is that Camille and Conor only care about Camille. It's literally "World Record or go home" for them. Team depending on you? Screw that. Others have success too? Screw them.
One thing the media has so far not picked up on is that her Lululemon contract reportedly gives her a $50K bonus per WR. She set 12 of them at the (staged, closed) FURTHER event this spring (many of them GOMU "non-standard" distance records, but Lululemon advertised them as WRs, so presumably they paid out for them). So even if Lululemon dumps her now they won't exactly be hurting financially for a while.
$600,000 that's nice. I wish Yiannis Kouros would have seen some of that money. They are building a large house in near Tucson.
I hope they where not counting on getting 12 more "world" records every year because now, everything will have dried up.
Nobody will ever invest in such a toxic brand ever again and I can not imagine that any race director wants her on the course.
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The thing is, of course, there won't be a trial. But there is now enough credible and compelling evidence that- short of a major conspiracy- shows Herron has behaved both publicly and privately in a way that is at odds with sportsmanship and fair play. Shutting down her social media suggests that there isn't much more of an alternative story to tell. So suggesting that she 'has a good heart' or is being affected by autism (being deceptive and spiteful isn't an inherent trait of autism by the way) is quite rightly being shut down as misdirection.
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An example of what you can do on LRC that the editors at Wikipedia won't allow
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I think this might be the point where this thread has run its course for now. Maybe everyone should take a step back until there are more developments.
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Yeah, I’m going to have to come down on the side of TXRG here. I don’t think she is defending the behavior or making an excuse. I think she is forensically trying to understand the causes of the behavior based on the verified facts. I respect that.
I actually feel a bit bad for Camille. It must suck to live in her brain to be honest. Obviously it sucks for the people she’s bullied over the years. Those people might all be feeling a sense of satisfaction at Camille’s situation now I guess.
Anyway, it sucks all around.
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