Just curious: do people on here genuinely disagree with the concept of self defense, or do you just enjoy being argumentative?
When someone clearly states their intent to kill, do you really think the response should be to just say "that's nice" and then wait to see if they actually kill?
Self defense? The guy did not attack anyone on that subway car. Did not directly threaten anyone. Not clear that he even said anything that was a generic threat.
Just curious: do people on here genuinely disagree with the concept of self defense, or do you just enjoy being argumentative?
When someone clearly states their intent to kill, do you really think the response should be to just say "that's nice" and then wait to see if they actually kill?
Self defense? The guy did not attack anyone on that subway car. Did not directly threaten anyone. Not clear that he even said anything that was a generic threat.
He had not attacked anyone on that subway car YET. Maybe that marine engaged in a pre-emptive strike before the guy could attack anyone. He had thrown someone on the tracks before. He had been arrested 44 times previously.. He sucker punched an old lady. He was a ticking time bomb about to go off.
Self defense? The guy did not attack anyone on that subway car. Did not directly threaten anyone. Not clear that he even said anything that was a generic threat.
He had not attacked anyone on that subway car YET. Maybe that marine engaged in a pre-emptive strike before the guy could attack anyone. He had thrown someone on the tracks before. He had been arrested 44 times previously.. He sucker punched an old lady. He was a ticking time bomb about to go off.
Now we can pre-emptively kill people cuz we think they may do something?
Someone should have launched a pre-emptive strike on that Marine and save a life
Just curious: do people on here genuinely disagree with the concept of self defense, or do you just enjoy being argumentative?
When someone clearly states their intent to kill, do you really think the response should be to just say "that's nice" and then wait to see if they actually kill?
Self defense? The guy did not attack anyone on that subway car. Did not directly threaten anyone. Not clear that he even said anything that was a generic threat.
Just curious: do people on here genuinely disagree with the concept of self defense, or do you just enjoy being argumentative?
When someone clearly states their intent to kill, do you really think the response should be to just say "that's nice" and then wait to see if they actually kill?
There were no threats to kill or weapons on him. But since you brought up self defense, what am I supposed to think if I see a homeless guy being choked out on the subway? Am I to assume it's a white knight saving us all from potential danger?
The guy is a marine and knows full well a chokehold is not a restraining technique, but a way to render someone unconscious. It seems Penny is the one who lost his temper waaay more than Neely and in these circumstances Neely would have been fully within his rights to act in self defense.
Self defense? The guy did not attack anyone on that subway car. Did not directly threaten anyone. Not clear that he even said anything that was a generic threat.
He had not attacked anyone on that subway car YET. Maybe that marine engaged in a pre-emptive strike before the guy could attack anyone. He had thrown someone on the tracks before. He had been arrested 44 times previously.. He sucker punched an old lady. He was a ticking time bomb about to go off.
Yup, he was a threat alright... You forgot to finish your rant with M@GA.
Now we can pre-emptively kill people cuz we think they may do something?
Someone should have launched a pre-emptive strike on that Marine and save a life
I’ve seen some fat black whale on the nyc subway kick a midget for saying the magic word that triggers them so much. Whatever this michael Jackson 2.0 guy was saying clearly let off a fuse on the whole subway. Had it coming good.
Reminder folks: if you've been arrested and convicted more than 3 times for violent crimes (and theft is very violent), you deserve and should get the death penalty.
Now we can pre-emptively kill people cuz we think they may do something?
Someone should have launched a pre-emptive strike on that Marine and save a life
I’ve seen some fat black whale on the nyc subway kick a midget for saying the magic word that triggers them so much. Whatever this michael Jackson 2.0 guy was saying clearly let off a fuse on the whole subway. Had it coming good.
Self defense? The guy did not attack anyone on that subway car. Did not directly threaten anyone. Not clear that he even said anything that was a generic threat.
He had not attacked anyone on that subway car YET. Maybe that marine engaged in a pre-emptive strike before the guy could attack anyone. He had thrown someone on the tracks before. He had been arrested 44 times previously.. He sucker punched an old lady. He was a ticking time bomb about to go off.
The trained killer would not have known any of that at the time that he choked the man to death.
I doubt it will be admitted into the trial.
You can't choke someone to death because there is a chance they might act violently.
You can't choke someone to death because they have previous issues, no matter how heinous they might be, if you didn't know about them. Even if you did know about them, it almost certainly doesn't justify choking the man to death now.
He had not attacked anyone on that subway car YET. Maybe that marine engaged in a pre-emptive strike before the guy could attack anyone. He had thrown someone on the tracks before. He had been arrested 44 times previously.. He sucker punched an old lady. He was a ticking time bomb about to go off.
The trained killer would not have known any of that at the time that he choked the man to death.
I doubt it will be admitted into the trial.
You can't choke someone to death because there is a chance they might act violently.
You can't choke someone to death because they have previous issues, no matter how heinous they might be, if you didn't know about them. Even if you did know about them, it almost certainly doesn't justify choking the man to death now.
You are right in that his criminal record will probably not be evidence in the trial, but on a related note, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to identify a career criminal.
The trained killer would not have known any of that at the time that he choked the man to death.
I doubt it will be admitted into the trial.
You can't choke someone to death because there is a chance they might act violently.
You can't choke someone to death because they have previous issues, no matter how heinous they might be, if you didn't know about them. Even if you did know about them, it almost certainly doesn't justify choking the man to death now.
You are right in that his criminal record will probably not be evidence in the trial, but on a related note, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to identify a career criminal.
A lot of people, sadly, are yelling on subways and seem mentally "off."
Can you share with me what I should look for, specifically, to know which ones are "career criminals"?
Clearly you have no experience living in NYC. If subway riders killed every crazy person who said "I'll kill a MF'er" they would be killing a person a day. 90%+ of whom are actually harmless.
Not saying I love it. Its threatening and uncomfortable and the cops and city should get this under control. But nor should all these people be killed.
I know nothing of this particular incident... but seems like excessive force. Many on that train could have restrained him until the authorities came.
Now we can pre-emptively kill people cuz we think they may do something?
Someone should have launched a pre-emptive strike on that Marine and save a life
I’ve seen some fat black whale on the nyc subway kick a midget for saying the magic word that triggers them so much. Whatever this michael Jackson 2.0 guy was saying clearly let off a fuse on the whole subway. Had it coming good.
The username is your robe, the anonymity your hood/mask... klansman. You forgot to sign off with M@GA.
