Back to the Mattressman £5K, I could go back through the thread but when did this first get mentioned and by whom?
Back to the Mattressman £5K, I could go back through the thread but when did this first get mentioned and by whom?
ExpertKipWatcher wrote:
Back to the Mattressman £5K, I could go back through the thread but when did this first get mentioned and by whom?
I don't know how it originally for mentioned in the thread but Joe Woodley's version of events document directly mentions it. If what Andrew Cook says about Mattressman is indeed true and there is not some more back story to it from Mattressman, then it could mean that Dave Reading was just telling lies to people into thinking he was raising a lot more money than he really was. The other possibility is that Mattressman was going to be giving the donation but after the LEJOG2017 uproar they didn't go through with it. Either way, I have received no replies from Mattressman so it is hard to verify with them what exactly transpired given that Mattressman's Nicky Gilkes' Facebook reply said they their checks about donation money, whether that refers to Mattressman money or someone else's.
^The above is assuming Andrew Cook is telling me the truth and not something like not even knowing about Monk Plant Hire.
Dunno why all this beating around the bush is going on, some people are telling you this and some are telling you that, etc, etc and you're hitting brick walls with the participants.
If you feel that strongly (and obviously you do) and you've gone to the trouble to get evidence and statements and write up your report then just send it to the Charities Commission and let them deal with it, they're a government entity they can't just ignore it. Same with the Reading's and their alleged scamming, just send it to the relevant government benefits department, they've got to look in to it. You've done the work send it to them both with a covering letter explaining why, then sit back and see what happens.
The Charities Commission:
https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/charity-commission
Benefits:
I wonder if someone can check my observations for what I think shows Dave Reading cheating at the Great Birmingham Run 2016 (half marathon). This would be the fourth race he has cheated at, if true, in addition to the LEJOG. In the Birmingham race, it looks like Dave and his accomplice didn't time things right.
Dave's chip time at the event is 2:02:28 with a 10k split time of 55:44. However, the race photos and video near the finish line show Dave finishing beside/ahead of runners that all appear to have 1:50:xx finish chip times, such as runners 5289, 4571, and 8190.
For this to happen, Dave would have needed to cut the course to get to the finish line with those other runners while his accomplice was late in swiping Dave's timing chip over the finish line. Anyone want to verify my deductions? Seems like we should reach out to the race director.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
Dave's chip time at the event is 2:02:28 with a 10k split time of 55:44. However, the race photos and video near the finish line show Dave finishing beside/ahead of runners that all appear to have 1:50:xx finish chip times, such as runners 5289, 4571, and 8190.
For this to happen, Dave would have needed to cut the course to get to the finish line with those other runners while his accomplice was late in swiping Dave's timing chip over the finish line. Anyone want to verify my deductions? Seems like we should reach out to the race director.
Another option: Dave collapsed and took a ten-minute breather after the pictures and then shambled across the finish line.
From his condition in those photos, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that he turned up his pace for the last kilometer then hit a wall, hard.
It's happened to me before where I'll kick into high gear for the finish only to find that I'm running completely on empty. Nothing worse than a finish sprint turning into a a shambling meander while sucking for air.
Not so sure... wrote:
Another option: Dave collapsed and took a ten-minute breather after the pictures and then shambled across the finish line.
From his condition in those photos, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that he turned up his pace for the last kilometer then hit a wall, hard.
It's happened to me before where I'll kick into high gear for the finish only to find that I'm running completely on empty. Nothing worse than a finish sprint turning into a a shambling meander while sucking for air.
????? That doesn't make any sense. There is also race video right before the finish line showing Dave running beside/ahead of those 1:50:xx runners.
http://www.greatrun.org/photos/bib/3866/Sports/GRUK/2016/Great%20Birmingham%20RunThe simplest explanation would be that Dave started toward the front of field and these guys were further back. Would need to get clock times to prove this out.
doubler wrote:
The simplest explanation would be that Dave started toward the front of field and these guys were further back. Would need to get clock times to prove this out.
That's a possibility but seems very odd given that all those runners around Dave and him being the standout.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
doubler wrote:The simplest explanation would be that Dave started toward the front of field and these guys were further back. Would need to get clock times to prove this out.
That's a possibility but seems very odd given that all those runners around Dave and him being the standout.
He would be one that is most likely to have pushed his way to the front. No idea if they had seeded corrals or anything of the like. But if he used a fake time to get seeded better than he should, then it would make some sense.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
doubler wrote:The simplest explanation would be that Dave started toward the front of field and these guys were further back. Would need to get clock times to prove this out.
That's a possibility but seems very odd given that all those runners around Dave and him being the standout.
Notice his orange bib. I checked others in his same bib # range and most have much faster times than Dave - in about the 1:3X:XX range.
I am fairly certain that he got his way into a faster corral than he belonged. That would explain why he is finishing with the white bibs (higher #s) - they caught him from behind and have faster chip times.
-Derek
doubler wrote:
Notice his orange bib. I checked others in his same bib # range and most have much faster times than Dave - in about the 1:3X:XX range.
I am fairly certain that he got his way into a faster corral than he belonged. That would explain why he is finishing with the white bibs (higher #s) - they caught him from behind and have faster chip times.
-Derek
Ok, that makes sense. Sure sticks out.
doubler wrote:
Notice his orange bib. I checked others in his same bib # range and most have much faster times than Dave - in about the 1:3X:XX range.
I am fairly certain that he got his way into a faster corral than he belonged. That would explain why he is finishing with the white bibs (higher #s) - they caught him from behind and have faster chip times.
-Derek
Wow, are you saying Dave lied about his times/ability?
he lied!!!!!!!!!!!,
Dave lied!!!!!!!!!!!,
I'm shocked and virtually speechless.
So the big galoot in those GBR photos is the fabled 3:12 2016 London Marathon runner? (which incidentally he probably used to get his orange bib lol).
Looks like a big loss of form in six months cos in his finishing photos at the end of the 2016 LM he looks like he's just cruising to the 3:12 he claimed he'd done to Duncan the War Hero and others.
Doubler bringing in a sleepless weekend for the Readings/Shinglers:
New info. He claims to have London 2016 GPS data.
Look out you INTERNET TROLLS! Dave and Terrie will surely be justified now that someone with integrity is looking into the details.
That link didn't work so well.
Gosh, the internet is hard!
Maybe here:
For anyone having trouble linking to Marathon Investigation FB site this is what's been written:
"MarathonInvestigation.com
4 hrs
It's been over a year since Rob Young's attempt to run across the US was scrutinized, and 10 months since it was determined by an independent investigation that he did indeed cheat.
On Monday I will publish my article on Dave Reading - the UK man whose attempt at a record Land's End to John o' Groats run led to scrutiny of prior races, preparation, and fund raising. I will attempt to take a fresh look at his attempt, the events leading up to the attempt, and his previous racing history.
I will analyze previously unseen GPS data from his 2016 London Marathon as well as data from the period of time where it was claimed that he ran the distance of 6 marathons in 48 hours."
I'm looking forward to reading the analysis of the GPS data from MarathonInvestigation.com. He's pretty thorough in his analysis so should shed light onto whether the data is legitimate and clears DR or, whether the data has been doctored / amended.
It'll be great to finally get an answer on this one...
Second that Yorkie, although I think this saga is going to continue until more mainstream media become involved and the Reading's are forced to come clean so far as financial accountability is concerned, And then there's the 3:12 and other lies and cheating, lying to Prince Harry, Duncan the War Hero and others, Joe the Drivers accusations, etc, etc.
Their website appears to be down? Did they get sent an advance copy of the Marathon investigation report? Have they realised that they can't con everyone anymore?