Potentially Suspicious Runner To Run 836 Miles in 9 Days for "Charity"

An odd choice given that Bournemouth Marathon had the balls to do the right thing and DQ him.

26.poo wrote:

According to Facebook Dave will be cycling to Bournemouth in August. A good chance to get some boots on the ground and see how the training is going.

Going by what Joe the Driver said about Dave being aggressive and a bully boy he's probably on his way to sort out the organisers for DQ'ing him lol.

'doubler' does it again, this posted on the 'Marlon Bascombe Coach of Lean.Strong.Fast Suspected of Cheating for BQ' thread:

"Marlon has been disqualified." - From The 2015 New Jersey Marathon.

"Good work, there's hope yet that after all this time another historical cheater, Dave Reading, will be next, anything happening on that front?"

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7263537&page=20#ixzz4nUq4k2V0

I just added another post in the Bascombe thread in reply to doubler planning to do an article on Reading:

What's happening? wrote:

doubler wrote:

I do plan on doing a post on him in the next week or so. Don't think I have much to add beyond what Scam Watcheroo and others have done,,but my article will make more people aware.

Good stuff, please make sure you email a copy of your Reading article to Hugh at the London Marathon, if he knows you're on to it there may be a bit more action re the DQ, no chip, phony TomTom data, phony 3:12, etc.

The reason I say "if he knows you're on to it" is because you do now seem to be having an effect on race directors regarding their timely investigation and actions against cheaters and they know they'll get called along with the cheaters which is not a good look for their marathon and its sponsors.

Never give up on cheaters. wrote:

'doubler' does it again, this posted on the 'Marlon Bascombe Coach of Lean.Strong.Fast Suspected of Cheating for BQ' thread:

"Marlon has been disqualified." - From The 2015 New Jersey Marathon.

"Good work, there's hope yet that after all this time another historical cheater, Dave Reading, will be next, anything happening on that front?"

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=7263537&page=20#ixzz4nUq4k2V0

Every time I check this I'm hoping for the London DQ.

How hard can it be Hugh? He had no chip and lied to you he did, and there was obviously never any TomTom data or Terrie would have shown us.

Terrie posted this on the FB page for the new LEJOG. Awww, she wants sympathy because we outed them as scammers!

She didnt get ONE "like", lol

Major update to the investigation summary, now marked as version 3.0. New information includes information regarding the donation money.

I recommend you read it all from top to bottom and in particular focus on Section 20. Unethical Behavior of Walking With The Wounded. I know this will be controversial but it must be said. I am open to feedback. It provides insight into what I've been holding back and why I said I have become too emotionally involved and this investigation has become personal.

This marks the end of my involvement pursuing people for evidence. I will now only be working to ensure London Marathon bans Dave Reading from running there ever again.

Terrie tells us she has proof and evidence for everything, yes everything, charity/sponsor stuff and LVM, just one slight problem, she won't release it.

Seems to be the same problem with the charity and sponsors involved.

Unless the media get involved they will all be keeping their mouths and files firmly closed when it comes to answers, evidence and proof and wait for it to all blow over and go off the radar.

I've read your latest and IMHO the only avenue open to you now is to pursue the media with your evidence.

Good luck and good luck with the London DQ.

Terrie tells us... wrote:

Seems to be the same problem with the charity and sponsors involved.

Unless the media get involved they will all be keeping their mouths and files firmly closed when it comes to answers, evidence and proof and wait for it to all blow over and go off the radar.

It is only an issue with some of the sponsors, others have been open and honest. From these type of charity runner scams, I have come to expect that there will always be a percentage that won't be open no matter if they are innocent or not. Some don't care about anything that happens when it's "raising money for charity".

I don't have too much issue with that since it's practically impossible to change that kind of indoctrination. But I do have a serious problem with how WWTW has behaved in the aftermath of the LEJOG2017 & the investigation considering that they are supposed to be a charity.

Hmmmm...

...Waste Water Treatment Works is rated higher...

Andy,

Whilst much of your investigation has gathered very pertinent information I feel I should challenge you on your WWTW claims of unethical behavior. That is because you are taking their unwillingness to give you details of private transactions as them behaving unethically. The reality is that UK data protection laws are likely to prohibit any discussion of the details. In general you cannot share information about another living person without their consent.

I would also point out that there comment says they didn't plan or run the event they specifically do not say they did not help promote it. Of course they did help promote it as it got their charity press coverage as well as any prospective fundraising income. What charity wouldn't advise people on promoting their cause?

To my mind accusing the charity of unethical behavior undermines all of the evidence based work that goes before.

To my mind accusing the charity of unethical behavior undermines all of the evidence based work that goes before.

I agree with the above statement. Having just caught up on the thread this afternoon and re-read the investigation document I feel you are being a little harsh on the WwTW charity. Reading between the lines of their comments I feel that they've pretty much cut their ties with the Dave / Terrie and any of their future charity escapades.

My gut feeling is the were unaware of any of the issues surrounding the infamous LEJOG WR attempt until it was brought to their attention by LR.

Yorkie Coach wrote:

Reading between the lines of their comments I feel that they've pretty much cut their ties with the Dave / Terrie and any of their future charity escapades.

My gut feeling is the were unaware of any of the issues surrounding the infamous LEJOG WR attempt until it was brought to their attention by LR.

I agree on both those two points. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the summary, but I said the evidence shows that WWTW was not intentionally malicious with regards to the LEJOG2017 itself. The issue I have is what they've been saying in the aftermath to me along with the evasions and inconsistencies.

Breaking news - our hero has now turned up on Strava.

Dave the troll hunter

https://imgur.com/gallery/O1uGN

This fiasco just keeps on giving.

The van started too fast on Dave's run

Don't drive so fast on a run

https://imgur.com/gallery/adxSg

It that was the only issue, they could have said that and I would just mark the donation money as unverifiable. But what Andrew Cook revealed about Mattressman sponsorship would seem to go against that assertion. It also doesn't explain why Andrew Cook did not check on the obvious Monk Plant Hire donation despite what he said in Tom Bristow's article about being transparent with the donors and giving the option of retracting donations.

I will have to disagree here. It is facetious for WWTW to claim the LEJOG2017 was "100% independent" and then me finding out they wrote some of the press releases for them that they then managed the distribution and promotion of these press releases to external news/magazine sites. At the very least, WWTW should acknowledge what they really did instead of giving me a half truth. It also really doesn't sit well with me that they looked to have dismissed their Media & Marketing Manager because of the LEJOG2017 uproar.

It would be dishonest of me to write everything else in the investigation summary without also revealing what I have encountered with WWTW. I am open to editing the document if someone is able to get WWTW to provide reasonable explanations for all my points. WWTW has appeared to have completely blacklisted communications with me for the past few weeks despite Andrew Cook stating in his last email he would check on the Monk Plant Hire donation and me sending replies after to him and Edward Parker asking for an update and why they are not replying to any of my emails.

Pass the popcorn wrote:

Breaking news - our hero has now turned up on Strava.

Dave the troll hunter

https://imgur.com/gallery/O1uGN

This fiasco just keeps on giving.

Terrie was told the other day by a race director that he really should be logging his runs if he wants people to take him seriously on the next trip.

She just said he wasnt on Strava but she was being quite polite - for once, and obviously took the advice

Andy,

You shouldn't expect an update about a specific payments of people. It may represent a breach of the Data Protection Act if they did update you.

I don't believe that is true. This is the last email reply I received from Andrew Cook:

So Andrew Cook says he would look into the Monk Plant Hire donation photo and get back to me. Yet, I have been totally blacklisted by WWTW and they will not respond to any of my emails.

And here are my replies to that email:

Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2017

To: "Andrew Cook (WWTW)"

Cc: Edward Parker

Hello Andrew,

It has been over 2 weeks since you said you would be checking up on the Monk Plant Hiring donation cheque that was photographed and you have not responded to any of my several emails during that time either. May I please know what is going on and why I am being ignored now?

Andy Tavin

On Friday, July 14, 2017, Andy Tavin wrote:

Hello Andrew,

Any update from Monk Plant Hiring about their donation?

Andy Tavin

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017, Andy Tavin wrote:

Hello Andrew,

Do you have an update from contacting Monk Plant Hiring about their cheque donation? Do you have any record of receiving this cheque?

Andy Tavin

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017, Andy Tavin wrote:

Hello Andrew,

What did Monk Plant Hiring tell you about that cheque in the photo I sent you of Dave Reading receiving it from them?

Andy Tavin

And nothing ever since from WWTW. If you are able to get WWTW to speak, I would like to know why they have blacklisted me and what is going on.