The OVERWHELMING majority of the fastest Marathon runners are from East African origin, mainly from just two countries, Ethiopia and Kenya.
You try to put it down as there is only one reason for this: doping. But doping is widespread all over the world. Is it more sophisticated in Ethiopia and Kenya?
Was the East African marathon success from the 80s (Ethiopia, Tanzania, Djibouti, but also Kenya) achieved clean?
Doping is clearly not as rampant elsewhere as it in in East Africa, even Casual Observer accepts that. How do you explain 200+ doping busts despite advance text warnings etc etc?
Many more top level runners than in any other country on earth. High rate of dopers. Often not very sophisticated doping. Something like this.
I have had a few exchanges with Coevett. He suffers from paranoid schizoid personality characteristics. Coevett actually has accused me of following him around and stalking him on this site. He (despite palpably false assertions of possessing a high IQ) cannot grasp that multiple people can vehemently disagree with his racism. He clearly is a white supremacist. He is actually the one who uses multiple user names and it is not easy for him to conceal his noxious personality. Other than that, he seems like a great guy.
The OVERWHELMING majority of the fastest Marathon runners are from East African origin, mainly from just two countries, Ethiopia and Kenya.
You try to put it down as there is only one reason for this: doping. But doping is widespread all over the world. Is it more sophisticated in Ethiopia and Kenya?
Was the East African marathon success from the 80s (Ethiopia, Tanzania, Djibouti, but also Kenya) achieved clean?
What you can't get your head around is that while doping is widespread some nations dope more than others - and some sports dope more than others. Kenyan doping is off the charts. It is effectively the norm in their chosen sport. That is enough to give them a huge advantage over any other nation. It is like the way the former E Bloc dominated in so many sports. Indeed, whenever we see a sudden rise to dominance by any national group - China, Jamaica, N and E Africa come to mind - you can be fairly sure doping is behind it. No country will be doping free but after Russia Kenya has certainly been leading the pack for doping violations.
The OVERWHELMING majority of the fastest Marathon runners are from East African origin, mainly from just two countries, Ethiopia and Kenya.
You try to put it down as there is only one reason for this: doping. But doping is widespread all over the world. Is it more sophisticated in Ethiopia and Kenya?
Was the East African marathon success from the 80s (Ethiopia, Tanzania, Djibouti, but also Kenya) achieved clean?
Indeed, whenever we see a sudden rise to dominance by any national group - China, Jamaica, N and E Africa come to mind - you can be fairly sure doping is behind it. No country will be doping free but after Russia Kenya has certainly been leading the pack for doping violations.
Well surely you admit then that Great Britain and their middle distance dominance from the late 70s to mid 80s was likely due to doping.
Indeed, whenever we see a sudden rise to dominance by any national group - China, Jamaica, N and E Africa come to mind - you can be fairly sure doping is behind it. No country will be doping free but after Russia Kenya has certainly been leading the pack for doping violations.
Well surely you admit then that Great Britain and their middle distance dominance from the late 70s to mid 80s was likely due to doping.
Do you think nobody can see that you are iIiIiIiIiI under yet another new unregistered name? What kind of person sits at his computer for 24 hours a day arguing religiously for the idea that Kenyans are an offshoot of humanity with special genes, despite no genetic explanation needed after 200 doping busts? Either you are Jama Aden, Pindeda, Hermans, Rosa, or you are being paid by them. Or just sad.
I have had a few exchanges with Coevett. He suffers from paranoid schizoid personality characteristics. Coevett actually has accused me of following him around and stalking him on this site. He (despite palpably false assertions of possessing a high IQ) cannot grasp that multiple people can vehemently disagree with his racism. He clearly is a white supremacist. He is actually the one who uses multiple user names and it is not easy for him to conceal his noxious personality. Other than that, he seems like a great guy.
Ok so you can see in the post above that Coevett is alleging that I am some other poster or some other people. This is a serious psychiatric condition he has. I am nobody he lists nor the other poster he thinks I am. He is delusional and paranoid with schizoid features. This paranoia also makes him think that every nonwhite who runs well is doping.
The OVERWHELMING majority of the fastest Marathon runners are from East African origin, mainly from just two countries, Ethiopia and Kenya.
You try to put it down as there is only one reason for this: doping. But doping is widespread all over the world. Is it more sophisticated in Ethiopia and Kenya?
Was the East African marathon success from the 80s (Ethiopia, Tanzania, Djibouti, but also Kenya) achieved clean?
Doping is clearly not as rampant elsewhere as it in in East Africa, even Casual Observer accepts that. How do you explain 200+ doping busts despite advance text warnings etc etc?
You cannot ignore selection bias. Kenyan testing and busts are not the result of a uniform random sampling.
WADA's 2017 study on Kenyan doping also gives us some insight.
Not sure how you measure "rampant", but as late as 2019, according to the WADA ADRV report, Kenyan doping is still behind Russia -- a nation that is banned from competing.
Not sure how you measure "rampant", but as late as 2019, according to the WADA ADRV report, Kenyan doping is still behind Russia -- a nation that is banned from competing.
Next after Kenya is India. Neither Russia nor India are particularly known for their athletic prowess on the world stage, outside of a small number of Russian women in the shorter distance events, and just 1 woman up to the marathon.
Regarding athletes from richer nations, you have to consider other factors:
- OOC testing pools are smaller due to fewer talented athletes; Anti-doping bodies like the AIU are less concerned with athletes from countries who are not winning.
- Sophisticated awareness and education which can both prevent doping, but also hide doping.
The OVERWHELMING majority of the fastest Marathon runners are from East African origin, mainly from just two countries, Ethiopia and Kenya.
You try to put it down as there is only one reason for this: doping. But doping is widespread all over the world. Is it more sophisticated in Ethiopia and Kenya?
Was the East African marathon success from the 80s (Ethiopia, Tanzania, Djibouti, but also Kenya) achieved clean?
What you can't get your head around is that while doping is widespread some nations dope more than others - and some sports dope more than others. Kenyan doping is off the charts. It is effectively the norm in their chosen sport. That is enough to give them a huge advantage over any other nation. It is like the way the former E Bloc dominated in so many sports. Indeed, whenever we see a sudden rise to dominance by any national group - China, Jamaica, N and E Africa come to mind - you can be fairly sure doping is behind it. No country will be doping free but after Russia Kenya has certainly been leading the pack for doping violations.
I have asked you to this, several times. But you don't answer, because you can't.
The GDR has searched for talents all over the country since kindergarten. There was systematically, state organized doping. In one of the most advanced countries on earth at the time. And they had just a few top athletes in any event. Kenya has hus hundreds of sub 2:09 marathon runners.
Please explain. "They dope more" is not a sufficient explanation.
Doping is clearly not as rampant elsewhere as it in in East Africa, even Casual Observer accepts that. How do you explain 200+ doping busts despite advance text warnings etc etc?
You cannot ignore selection bias. Kenyan testing and busts are not the result of a uniform random sampling.
WADA's 2017 study on Kenyan doping also gives us some insight.
Not sure how you measure "rampant", but as late as 2019, according to the WADA ADRV report, Kenyan doping is still behind Russia -- a nation that is banned from competing.
What you can't get your head around is that while doping is widespread some nations dope more than others - and some sports dope more than others. Kenyan doping is off the charts. It is effectively the norm in their chosen sport. That is enough to give them a huge advantage over any other nation. It is like the way the former E Bloc dominated in so many sports. Indeed, whenever we see a sudden rise to dominance by any national group - China, Jamaica, N and E Africa come to mind - you can be fairly sure doping is behind it. No country will be doping free but after Russia Kenya has certainly been leading the pack for doping violations.
I have asked you to this, several times. But you don't answer, because you can't.
The GDR has searched for talents all over the country since kindergarten. There was systematically, state organized doping. In one of the most advanced countries on earth at the time. And they had just a few top athletes in any event. Kenya has hus hundreds of sub 2:09 marathon runners.
Please explain. "They dope more" is not a sufficient explanation.
The goal of the GDR was to top the Olympic medal table, which they did. That involved the need to train athletes to be the best in dozens of different sports. They also had a population of less than 17 million, around 1/10th of the population of Kenya/Ethiopia. Kenya and Ethiopia literally do nothing outside of distance running. Marita Koch's 400m WR is still considered unbreakable 50 years later. I doubt if Kipchoge's WR will be unbreakable in 50 years time.
Whichever agent is employing you needs to stop being stingy with their pay rates. Raise their hourly pay to above $5 and they might afford a better shill.
I have asked you to this, several times. But you don't answer, because you can't.
The GDR has searched for talents all over the country since kindergarten. There was systematically, state organized doping. In one of the most advanced countries on earth at the time. And they had just a few top athletes in any event. Kenya has hus hundreds of sub 2:09 marathon runners.
Please explain. "They dope more" is not a sufficient explanation.
The goal of the GDR was to top the Olympic medal table, which they did. That involved the need to train athletes to be the best in dozens of different sports. They also had a population of less than 17 million, around 1/10th of the population of Kenya/Ethiopia. Kenya and Ethiopia literally do nothing outside of distance running. Marita Koch's 400m WR is still considered unbreakable 50 years later. I doubt if Kipchoge's WR will be unbreakable in 50 years time.
Whichever agent is employing you needs to stop being stingy with their pay rates. Raise their hourly pay to above $5 and they might afford a better shill.
Shortly after Kiprop got busted, when he was still manically trying to convince everybody of his innoncence on Twitter, he posted a screenshot of a text message from Kipchoge on his mobile phone. Kipchoge was asking to see him personally at his home, as they needed to talk about something (in relation to Kiprop's bust and legal defence). Kiprop has deleted that tweet, along with the famous 'EPO!' tweet, lol.
With the number of lies you tell everyday this must be taken as another lie unless you provide some evidence to the contrary.
You cannot ignore selection bias. Kenyan testing and busts are not the result of a uniform random sampling.
WADA's 2017 study on Kenyan doping also gives us some insight.
Not sure how you measure "rampant", but as late as 2019, according to the WADA ADRV report, Kenyan doping is still behind Russia -- a nation that is banned from competing.
What?
Can hardly be clearer.
Russian doping is more rampant then Kenyan by all official reports, as recent as 2019, despite being banned from competing.
The 2017 WADA report identified many reasons for the 200+ (?) busts in Kenya.
"selection bias" means Kenya is disproportionately targeted, due to higher success and perceived anti-doping issues.
Testing pool less than 3 times bigger than US/UK/German 200 x busts.
Kenyans are not being tested more. There are Olympic and WC qualifers who haven't been tested the required 3 times. The testing they are being subjected to is known to be corrupt.
Testing pool less than 3 times bigger than US/UK/German 200 x busts.
Kenyans are not being tested more. There are Olympic and WC qualifers who haven't been tested the required 3 times. The testing they are being subjected to is known to be corrupt.
Still not sure what to make of this oddly chosen comparison to USA/UK/Germany, and whether you made them up.
Where is 200x coming from, and are you comparing apples to apples?
Are you saying there was only 1 busted distance athlete from USA/UK/Germany in the last 18 years?
You say that the Kenyan pool is almost 3 times bigger than US/UK/Germany combined and they are not being tested more?
Again the 2017 WADA report provides greater insight into some of the various causes of Kenyan positives.
Indeed, whenever we see a sudden rise to dominance by any national group - China, Jamaica, N and E Africa come to mind - you can be fairly sure doping is behind it. No country will be doping free but after Russia Kenya has certainly been leading the pack for doping violations.
Well surely you admit then that Great Britain and their middle distance dominance from the late 70s to mid 80s was likely due to doping.
They had three dominant runners in a decade. Not a lot for a country of - how many? - 60 million or so? And how many of their runners were popped for doping - as against an elite Kenyan busted every week?
Doping is clearly not as rampant elsewhere as it in in East Africa, even Casual Observer accepts that. How do you explain 200+ doping busts despite advance text warnings etc etc?
You cannot ignore selection bias. Kenyan testing and busts are not the result of a uniform random sampling.
WADA's 2017 study on Kenyan doping also gives us some insight.
Not sure how you measure "rampant", but as late as 2019, according to the WADA ADRV report, Kenyan doping is still behind Russia -- a nation that is banned from competing.
2019 was 3 years ago. The rate of Kenyan busts has continued to increase since then - as threads like this - every week - show. Kenya is definitely the front runner now in the doping "Olympics".
What you can't get your head around is that while doping is widespread some nations dope more than others - and some sports dope more than others. Kenyan doping is off the charts. It is effectively the norm in their chosen sport. That is enough to give them a huge advantage over any other nation. It is like the way the former E Bloc dominated in so many sports. Indeed, whenever we see a sudden rise to dominance by any national group - China, Jamaica, N and E Africa come to mind - you can be fairly sure doping is behind it. No country will be doping free but after Russia Kenya has certainly been leading the pack for doping violations.
I have asked you to this, several times. But you don't answer, because you can't.
The GDR has searched for talents all over the country since kindergarten. There was systematically, state organized doping. In one of the most advanced countries on earth at the time. And they had just a few top athletes in any event. Kenya has hus hundreds of sub 2:09 marathon runners.
Please explain. "They dope more" is not a sufficient explanation.
The E Bloc dominated in many sports - they doped for whatever they could compete in. They were the main rivals to the US on the world stage - sport was part of the Cold War. Kenyans feature in few sports outside distance running. There they dope like an Irishman drinks. You have trouble with seeing cause and effect, which in Kenya's case sees rampant doping reflected in their results. I would doubt there is any country in any sport that dopes more now. Except for perhaps WWE and Bulgarian weightlifting.