Teacher (and Orgill heiress) Eliza Fletcher abducted while running in Memphis TN Fri. morning.

That's true, just that big fat ignoramericans won't admit it.

This thread is 14 pages of proving Aussie Observer right.

As tragic as this story is, it’s hardly a real threat. Millions of Women run thousands of miles without incident.

Sure the odds are higher in certain areas at certain times of day/night.

Unless you mean the dissent in our country. That is real. However, it’s exacerbated on social media and message boards. People speak in a way they would not speak to others in person. We all want mostly the same outcome, but we have different opinions on how to get there.

not really. leftists want a society where the government tells limits every of my actions, where I am dicriminated as a white male and where I shall be afraid to use the wrong pronouns because a crazy person identifies as an elephant.

LOL!!

Time to shut this thread down. I think we can all agree that the outcome will be very sad. No reason to use this woman’s life and family’s tragedy as a nidus for political and racial discourse any longer.

This is such a tragedy! Many years ago, an instructor made a comment that has stuck in my head. He said, "think like a criminal." What does that mean?

It means that a criminal looks for places where victims are likely to be and then looks for lonely spots within that location where the victim can be isolated. After that, they look for easy targets. Then, they plan their attack.

As I stressed in another thread, your first priority isn't to catch the guy or to defend yourself. Those are important, but your first priority is to prevent the crime from occurring in the first place. You don't want to be the easy target.

For women runners, that means not running alone in areas where there is no one around. Get a running partner. Go to a gym. Drive to a safe(r) location. Maintain situational awareness. After a while, situational awareness becomes second nature.

Actually, what Rojo proposed is very common (not the torture part) because the DAs office gets involved almost immediately in cases like this.

Seems like this guy should have been reported for soliciting prostitution. Probably no one wanted to go through the trouble, but it might have stopped this escalation.

dailymail.co.uk

Suspect in heiress kidnapping 'stalked women at brother's house'

https://www.facebook.com/DailyMail

The man accused of violently kidnapping billionaire heiress Eliza Fletcher while she was out joking in the early hours of September 2 has been described as a 'creep' and 'pervert' by neighbors.

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Hmm, increasingly looks like an isolated crazy person incident with no accomplices. His thing apparently was to sit in his suv and gawk at women, which is probably what he was doing that morning on her running route.

This is when NYDN wanted to defend Bloomberg for his past statements about who commits all the crimes. We're not all equal. This is from one of the most liberal papers in the country:

it’s the 95% number that has most people irked. In New York City, in
2015, blacks made up 63.7% of murder and non-negligent homicide victims
and 62.1% of suspects. Hispanics made up 27.6% of victims and 29.6% of
suspects.
Add
them up: 91.3% of homicide victims in New York City were black or
Hispanic. 91.7% of homicide suspects were black or Hispanic.

Feel free to ding Bloomberg for being off by four to five percentage points.
But claiming he engaged in an irresponsible distortion is an irresponsible distortion.

nydailynews.com

Data for Mike: Let’s get some facts straight on race and crime

We like Mike Bloomberg. And we’ve been tough on him on stop-and-frisk, a bad policy we once supported, then disavowed.

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His bond was set at only $500,000. That is beyond ridiculous. He only has to come up with $50,000 of it and then he is on the streets again. He likely would have killed that attorney but the attorney escaped. He almost assuredly killed the lady. The guy is a menace to society. Why would he get ANY bond? So he can go kill again???

Great, now I won't be able to sit in my SUV and gawk at women without being accused of being some kind of weirdo.

Your suspicion isn't anymore plausible than a contract job. There's nothing to suspect sociopathy or rape based on the facts so far. That's just what you've came up with. A guest on Fox who was a former police chief suspected there was another person involved. It's not out of bounds to think money was involved in this. Unfortunately, kidnapping is legitimate business in areas like Memphis.

I don't disagree, but as a small female runner who "thinks like a criminal" finding a "safe" location to run can feel like an uphill battle. Personally, after years of running on country roads and trails without thinking, I was incredibly spooked by Molly Tibbets' murder a few years back. As much as I love dirt country roads, I now make much smaller circles closer to home when visiting family in the country. Even on bike trails in a safe mid-sized city, every now and then I realize there is no one else around save a vagabond looking guy and have to either pass and hope he isn't a creep opportunist or turn around and add 4 miles to my run... if you are really paying attention as a small female, you are vulnerable actually quite a lot despite planning and trying to run in safe areas and times of day. I've been chased once and video recorded but never attacked thankfully in 1000s of miles. So I bought a treadmill, alter routes, never wear earbuds etc, but it sucks. Most of my favorite routes, bike trails and country roads no longer feel safe, and I hate running along busy roads for other safety reasons. These concerns have taken some of the fun and mental release out of running. Despite probably being overly cautious myself, these incidents are deeply upsetting every time and are for many female runners. Praying for her safe return.