a pretty pickle wrote:
In all seriousness you have to think what the game plan is of the Australian government at this point.
Logically, as the lockdowns continue, people are going to be getting angrier and the protests larger/more aggressive. One could counter that by saying as vaccines are more available lockdowns won’t be as necessary but I don’t know how true that is.
Many of the cases we see in Australia are among the already vaccinated. Seeing as the Australian government is obviously willing to lockdown society over even the smallest number of COVID cases I don’t know if Australia can just “vaccinate out” of the lockdown stage of COVID unless the government just reconciles with the fact there will be at least a few 100 COVID positive people in their country at all time.
Rubbish. The majority of the people are telling the govt to lock down harder, like Victoria did so that it can be shorter. The protesters are Covid deniers andf they will be fined/locked up for the illegal moronic behaviour, because over 10,000 people have already called crimestoppers identifying people from TV and phone footage.
Hardly any of the infected are vaccinated. No vaccinated are in hospital. That has been said to you every day at the 11am presser.
Case in point, the super spreading birthday party at the beginning of this had 30 out of 40 attendees being infected. None were vaccinated. Six with double shots and one with only one shot were not infected
The only blowback the govt has had is with procuring more Pfizer shots, other than that, both parties are in agreement on actions
If you are from USA, talk about your own deaths please, and if from Australia, bugger off to the US
Waitasec wrote:
lol
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/nsw-lockdown-may-be-in-place-until-christmas-if-state-cant-get-to-zero-cases/news-story/4ddda8d89812720e965611b210386832
Ah..fantastic , thanks for the source from the 'experts' at News Ltd.
They quote one Prof, from another state, who talks about "not getting to zero" on which there is little disagreement, but she does not mention Christmas or any date...they just made that up.
How about you read non tabloid papers, back in the day of print, the News Ltd made good toilet paper, no use at all now.
Waitasec wrote:
Look who's back! The moron that can't even spell moron
ha ha,....its spelled 'moran' here, you moran
Proof you haven't been around here long and just came in to troll.
Loser.
Seethe harder 'moran'
Victoria has now defeated the Delta strain for a 2nd time. Yes, the supposedly undefeatable Delta strain. It took less than 2 weeks of strict lockdown. Back open again with no-one dying and less than 200 cases.
These are the facts.
I'm sorry for anyone / everyone who thinks COVID cant be defeated and has sacrificed lives with that naivety ...
Waitasec wrote:
lol
https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/nsw-lockdown-may-be-in-place-until-christmas-if-state-cant-get-to-zero-cases/news-story/4ddda8d89812720e965611b210386832
It’ll be interesting when Christmas rolls around and Australia is still locked down if the lockdown-apologists in Australia will still tout how “successful” they have been.
NSW has an idiotic leader who is more interested in politics than saving lives. Sound familiar?
Every other state in Australia has their sh*t together. So please dont tar all Australians with a NSW brush.
Jeez by Christmas... That's right around the time all these Pfizer vaccines will become useless against transmission if you go off the overseas data. Better push the lockdowns out till Easter. Numbers are creeping up again...
Waitasec wrote:
Jeez by Christmas... That's right around the time all these Pfizer vaccines will become useless against transmission if you go off the overseas data. Better push the lockdowns out till Easter. Numbers are creeping up again...
I think Christmas is a good time line to end lockdowns but I’m thinking Christmas 2023. Better safe than sorry.
ImpaIa31 wrote:
Waitasec wrote:
If you take Sydney for instance, this 'outbreak' has hit the south west hardest, with those people being under the harshest lockdowns. This area is filled with first and second generation Australians. A lot of people from places that have seen what things like dictatorships and communism look like first hand, in their own life times. It is full of low income earners that need to travel across Sydney to work and are not allowed to and have insufficient support to ride this out.
So what then is the alternative to protest for them? Durrr take the vax? No. The government keeps harping on about how vaccination will end transmission and therefore the need to lockdown but Israel is showing Pfizer doesn't stop transmission, just hospitalisation. What other plans has the government got? Never ending lockdowns? Military checkpoints? You think people that fled the middle east are going to be comfortable with military involvement in a public health matter?
Main streets are pretty much dying across the state (along with the CBD), small businesses are struggling to survive, people don't have enough money to pay bills, the government changes its views on things every second day and I've seen first hand their tracing and monitoring is a shambles. The states all continually squabble with each other for political points and the commonwealth leadership is about a year behind the pace.
We have a low death count because we are an island and have been able to largely shut out the virus and quarantine it to stop it spreading in the community (especially among the elderly in nursing homes etc. who were basically banned from having visitors for a long stretch). But, the cat's out of the bag now and they have no clue how to stop it. Other than vaccines. Which - Israel...
Notice how Armstronglivs didn't reply to this post...
Not every rant is of interest to me. Probably including yours.
okbroski wrote:
man dien under wrote:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-25/four-local-areas-of-sydney-to-lock-down-as-delta-cluster-spreadshttps://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/23/wellington-may-face-covid-lockdown-visit-infected-australian-tourist-new-zealandNew Zealand and Australia, once touted as the prime examples of how to handle COVID, go into yet another lockdown and reinstate restrictions while the rest of the first world start to leave COVID behind.
Do these two countries have a game plan on how to vaccinate their people and/or stop constantly locking down? It appears neither country have evolved since the first day of COVID response (simply shutdown their respective countries).
They only just received their vaccines. Europe and America soaked up the stock.
The kept people alive with lock downs and masking.
You need to read other than headlines, and realize that not all countries got the resources at the same time.
And, they have way fewer dead.
There is no Covid in the community here in NZ. We are currently living with all the freedoms that others dream of while they have Covid in their midst taking lives. I have just received my vaccination - like many others in my age group. So those that try to bag us - tell us how you are doing in the rest of the world.
notice how its only white countries being locked down. something sinister is afoot. Remember Joe Biden said it was a GOOD THING WHITES WILL BE AN ABSOLUTE MINORITY in the USA and other countries. WTF, which genocide anyone...
Seeker OfTruth wrote:
notice how its only white countries being locked down. something sinister is afoot. Remember Joe Biden said it was a GOOD THING WHITES WILL BE AN ABSOLUTE MINORITY in the USA and other countries. WTF, which genocide anyone...
So people dying in 'non white', developing countries, incuding a family member of mine last Friday will be the majority.
Love the logic
Waitasec wrote:
Seethe harder 'moran'
Lol, smart trolls would have learnt the Letsrun vernacular before spreading the cordial...but carry on
Waitasec wrote:
Jeez by Christmas... That's right around the time all these Pfizer vaccines will become useless against transmission if you go off the overseas data. Better push the lockdowns out till Easter. Numbers are creeping up again...
We have manufactured 20 million AZ doses people are reluctant to use,,have you taken yours yet? Or don't you need it?
As for your protester friends, at the bail application of one guy featured on tabloid front pages, even his lawyer offered this: "Your honour my client has already suffered...he has become the 'poster boy' of idiots"
Seriously, you cannot make this up. Cowards get the publicity they wanted, realise they are seen as stupid and use that as a factor to get bail.
And here is more 'lack of publicity about the 38yo lady that died
Shame on you
Oh yes, you lost a family member. SURE you have. And I know 4 family members who've died from taking the vaccine. See how easy it is to lie. I swear there should be no one left on Earth with you Covid Cult people saying how many family members of yours have died from the Covid.
Do you actually understand what you have taken..?
I am Sam wrote:
over 10,000 people have already called crimestoppers identifying people from TV and phone footage.
And you think that is a good thing.
Scary...