Another run across America underway - is it legit? Boots currently on the ground

Are you certain the money hasn’t been donated, or are you making an assumption because there hasn’t been any big announcement?

I can’t imagine what the delay would be at this point if no donation has been made, but that’s a heavy accusation unless your absolutely certain.

Again, you only have access to their strava data and not garmin/coros. I looked at one of RB's transcon runs

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Morning Run - Robbie B.'s 46.4 mi run

Robbie B. ran 46.4 mi on Apr 20, 2019.

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You can see where his HR drops after a rest stop. My assuption is that he walked it the rest of the way and you're getting the autopaused pace.

Elapsed Time 12:00:51
8:59:34 Moving Time

Though I can explain why the cadence remains high?

WG isn't wrong about that......

Cockerell has been making wildly false statements all throughout this whole thread.....

willvic may be a loony but if you think Goodge and Balenger are legit then you’re crazier than he is.

Yes, certain. His cameraman has written to confirm it. Goodge feels that because he is a high profile individual it is best not to hand over the money to the charities, as there's a chance people will still donate more in time. He picks up about a tenner per fortnight.

I believe since I raised this matter he has now closed the UK page.

But what is so cynical is that throughout this last 10 weeks he hasn't said one thing about fundraising, or given a timeline for the handover, he has just posted about the longest and most excessive party, all over the world, that many of us have ever seen. Of course he will say it has all been paid partnerships, and he is advertising all the venues he's at.

He wins all these deals in his status as a world leading athlete.

Even when I have something confirmed from his team, you still say I'm wildly false.

He's not walking the rest of the way though is he? His pace clearly remains constant and quick, throughout. After a needlessly sharp 5 hour marathon, where his heart is as high as anyone's ever for a challenge like this [in the 170s], it then flatlines to 97-128 for the last 20 miles, with some incredibly fast Ks.

Witness for miles 12-14:

K pace: 7:53, 7:36, 7:23

with an HR of: 169, 169, 174

And then for miles 39-41:

K pace: 7:03, 5:41, 6:02.

with an HR of: 112, 122 and 128.

These paces are massively quicker, by nearly 2 minute per km, and yet the HR has gone down from an average of 171 to 120.

This happens ALL the time with these two throughout all their running over the last 4 years and 15,000k. They don't simply walk it it, that's clear from the fact that they do negative splits an awful lot of the time.

No-one else in the world simply flatlines like this on their HR while still maintaining a terrific pace. If so who? No-one has ever answered this question. I have studied countless hundreds of runs of this sort, and found absolutely nothing like it.

Everyone else just returns a heart rate that is clear, explicable and steady throughout. But these two, who turned pro with no ability four years ago and quickly became best friends, have this identical pattern throughout all their unscanctionned multiday runs, for which they win lucrative business deals and great kudos from the masses.

Goodge has now given two reasons: "he must have had a sh*tty watch," [despite this occurring with six different brands], and I have issues over my dead mother.

Have you contacted GoFundMe?

The last time you supposedly got something from the team was a rock that turned out to be you driving dangerously that you even got a ticket for.

Total lie, completely disproven. They admit they threw it because they were sick of me. If they had had even the faintest glimmer of concern about my driving they would have dropped me a line over the 5 days. Something like, "hey, Will, we noticed you went by a little close earlier on."

I never got a ticket, I got a warning for taking too long to pull off the hard shoulder.

These brazen mistruths and deflection are the best you've got. No-one in your camp ever once addressed the issues. [Except for your utterances about how the entire running community doesn't know how to read data, but you're not going to teach us.]

You could have really helped Goodge if you had anything, but for reasons unknown all you ever did was set them back with your trolling which we all saw straight through months ago.

No but apparently people who are genuine charity raisers through them, name the charity and it then gets a blue or green tick. People have sent me screenshots that he never had those for Macmillan or ACS.

It would take nothing for him to put out a post saying when the 100k handover will be and which charity is getting how much, and he knows full well this is now a big issue. But all we're getting are pix of Cape Town idyll, his chicken for dinner, and endless adverts for Puresport, and "I really do like my life here, things go so much better."

Ok thanks, have written to Gofundme now.

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Pacing Sam at the LV100 - Robbie B.'s 39.0 mi run

Robbie B. ran 39.0 mi on Aug 20, 2023.

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look at robbie's latest run. he paced some dude at leadville so clearly not fake. look at his HR. not sure why he hides his regular runs though.

Hi there, thanks for this.

The run here by RB is absolutely perfect. An HR of 111 for an eye-wateringly slow 39 miles in 12 hours is pure as the driven snow.

I am not in the least concerned about 25 minute miles at 103 bpm.

or in Ks, loads of these are around 13 minutes. A very slow walk indeed. When he speeds up a little to say 10 mintue Ks, boom, the HR rises to 130.

Goodge the same, every single KM of the last 3 months has been perfect. His 8 miler in 63 mins this week: most miles at 150+bpm.

But in their huge charity multiday fundraisers their paces drop to 7, 6, 5 and even 4 minute Ks. But the heart rate is the same as this run denoted here, 100-110, when it should be 140-160.

What this clearly shows us is that RB runs 110bpm for 11 minute Ks. So how the heck was he doing thousands of 6-8 minute Ks at his Transcon at 100-110bpm? Just one random example is 21 April, 2019. A 6:50k at 110bpm followed by a 6:38 at 112.

Compare that to yesterday: a 12:04k at 120 followed by a 12:07 at 121.

You see the difference. And they've done this for 15,000k, and raised hundreds of thousands of dollars in commercial income for their careers as professional running influencers.

Hope this helps.

These two are scamsters, no question about that.

Hi all,

lots still happening behind the scenes on this important matter. One thing that would really progress the narrative is to get a copy of WG's Whoop data from Transcon. He promised the community he would share this, so where is it?

I have made a polite request for it to WG, and his head of running founders at Puresport and the Movement blueprint, Grayson Hart and Harvey Lawton; but WG has just replied with the most appalling abuse, not addressing the question but saying the only thing I ever achieved in running was to soil myself in a race. I don't know what he means, but it feels like deflection.

He has reproduced my letter on Instagram - calling me a loser and a d*ckhead - so I also copy it here. It is a MORE than reasonable request, carried out in a dignified manner:

Dear Will, with Grayson cc'd on email as we've been chatting.

As you know one thing that would make my analysis into your runs of the last four years more authentic would be for them to be ratified by a leading authority, like Loughborough.
They are discussing it closely "in house", but of course such a detailed study would be enormously expensive, and would need to go through their Chancellor Lord Coe, who remains as President of the IAAF.

Loughborough say that a lot of this sort of thing has landed on their desk in the past six years, so when the BBC approached them about it, their ears pricked up.

Anyway, no study would be complete, or fair to Will, without his Whoop data, which he has promised to release to the community. All we have so far is a couple of flashes in a video which we have screenshotted.

One indicated a perfect heart rate of 131 for the week, which is indeed exactly what we would expect, but the other showed an absence of 3.5 hours of running on arguably the toughest day of the challenge, which is less explicable.

This matter won't disappear, so it's important we all work together to give the scientists full data to work with if the project is signed off.

I hope you can help with this, and I wish you all the best for Berlin.

Sincerely, Will

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It will be interesting to see how Berlin goes, and how close he can get to his 3:03pb, or his claimed pb of 2:50:00 in a solo time trial in Battersea Park [with heart rate monitor switched off]

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‘Hardcore science’ or ‘just a sticker’ – do anti-anxiety patches actually work?

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/alaina-demopoulos

The Duchess of Sussex is among fans of stickers from brands like NuCalm, which claim to have a calming effect

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Really good takedown of NuCalm that I saw recently.

Yes, that is indeed an epic piece. Alongside Nucalm, these are a few other companies and products that WG has promoted or linked to since Transcon.

Arnica
Ashwagandha
Bacopa Monnieri
Berenjak London
Bleue Burnham
Cannabidiol [CBD]
Chaga [mushroom]
Chiltern Firehouse
Club Wembley
Cordyceps
Curcuma Longa [Turmeric]
Digestive Enzyme Blend
Ginger
Givenchy
Gua Sha Massage tool
Harrods
Hoka shoes
Holy Basil
Hotel Pullman Berlin Schweizerhof
Hyperice
J.Lindeberg fashion
Lavender
Le Agavi Hotel, Positano
Lemongrass
Le Sirenuse hotel, Positano
Lion’s Mane [mushroom]
Liquorice Root
Londoner Hotel
L-Theanine
Kan Tulum Hotel, Mexico
Magnesium
Maitake [mushroom]
Medium-chain Triglyceride oil
Montmorency Cherry
The Movement Blueprint – head of running. Harvey Lawton Founder
Nike vapourwaffle
Nucalm
On Running apparel
Pelotan sun protection
Peppermint
Piperine [Black Pepper]
Piper Nigrum [Black Pepper]
Puresport – freeze roll ons.
Puresport running apparel
Refy Beauty
Reishi [mushroom]
Remedy Place, LA & NY
Rhodiola Rosea
Satisfy equipment
Shiitake [mushroom]
St. John restaurant
Studio Peter John
TAO Downtown restaurant
Team 247 Represent apparel
Tongkat Ali
Turmeric
Villa Parodi Delfino, Ischia
Virgin Atlantic
Virginie Khateeb photography
Vitamin B9
Vitamin B12
Vitamin D3
Vuori
W Hotel, Leicester Square
Whoop
Wintergreen
Witch-hazel
Zinc
Zingiber Officinale [Ginger]