Official 2019 World XC Live Discussion Thread

Toshi wrote:

"This is his worst result, let's just ignore the fact that those who 'beat' him were cheating."

You're seriously pathetic Phantasy Star. Jakob got beaten by 11 east african athletes he will crush this summer on track again, yet you are still whining about allegedly age cheating of athletes looking younger than Jakob.

Would be great if we could have a similar course in a winter olympics, maybe on a slightly larger loop though.

Thomas Ayeko does have some legitimate other PBs. He's run 1323 for 5000, 27:40 for 10,000, 60:26 for the half and 2:12:04 for the marathon

Matt Crowe is a smart man. He's worn LetsRun yellow so he'll be easy to sport.

https://twitter.com/letsrundotcom/status/1111978876165595136

He's about 45 seconds back after lap 1.

The US men are doing great after 1 lap... all 5 within 15 seconds of the lead!

Moller lives, studies and trains at St Mary's University, London.

duhhhhhhhhhh wrote:

peekay wrote:

Announcer certainly wrong that steeplechasers would be the best.

Interesting how bad (relative to track speed) the Americans are on this hilly course. Good thing Houlihan skipped it.

I would imagine it is not simply innate hill ability. The east African runners must train in a way that makes them better on hills.

Yes.

They train running over hilly terrain.

I mean, these African runners train at over 7000-8000 feet altitude over hilly terrain. Of course they would dominate this kind of stuff.

macdaddy wrote:

Toshi wrote:

"This is his worst result, let's just ignore the fact that those who 'beat' him were cheating."

(SEE BOLD)

Kid has run low 3:3x against seniors. His father says he can break 60 minutes in the half marathon. I don't care the age of his competitors at this point in his career. He's beyond that. This was his worst result in a long time.

Uhhh, I don't think Jakob nor his crew placed much emphasis on this "race." This is not what the big boys train for. It's definitely a victory for him in that he got a great training day.

macdaddy wrote:

Kid has run low 3:3x against seniors. His father says he can break 60 minutes in the half marathon. I don't care the age of his competitors at this point in his career. He's beyond that. This was his worst result in a long time.

Inge cycling off the dope for the testfest WADA will be running at this event?

Canada beat the US in the women's race. What the hell happened to Japan? They often medal don't they? They were 12th.

POS TEAM COUNTRY MARK

1 Ethiopia Ethiopia 21

2 Kenya Kenya 25

3 Uganda Uganda 36

4 Great Britain & NI Great Britain & NI 132

5 Australia Australia 134

6 Bahrain Bahrain 152

7 Canada Canada 186

8 United States United States 190

9 France France 198

10 Spain Spain 210

11 Tanzania Tanzania 211

12 Japan Japan 227

13 Denmark Denmark 229

14 Peru Peru 278

15 PR of China PR of China 336

16 Lebanon Lebanon 446

Hmm H. Bor down the field today.

Kamworor moves into 2nsd... things just got real!

Look at the Personal Best's of the first European after 2 laps https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/spain/ouassim-oumaiz-errouch-300260

US men are 27, 31, 41, 48, 59th.

Ok here is lap 1 results.

After lap 1, USA was 10, 28, 39, 44, 59, 93

After lap 2, USA was 27, 31, 41, 48, 59, 69. Ferlic move way up and Bor - who was our #1 after first lap moved way back.

1ST LAP SPLIT

RANK ATHLETE COUNTRY MARK GAP

1 Jacob KIPLIMO UGA 6:29 0:00

2 Faraja Damas LAZARO TAN 6:29 0:00

3 Joel AYEKO UGA 6:30 0:01

4 Selemon BAREGA ETH 6:30 0:01

5 Aron KIFLE ERI 6:30 0:01

6 Ouassim OUMAIZ ERROUCH ESP 6:30 0:01

7 Geoffrey KAMWOROR KEN 6:30 0:01

8 Dawit FIKADU BRN 6:30 0:01

9 Birhanu BALEW BRN 6:30 0:01

10 Stanley Kipkoech KEBENEI USA 6:31 0:02

11 Thierry NDIKUMWENAYO BDI 6:31 0:02

12 Albert CHEMUTAI UGA 6:31 0:02

13 Thomas AYEKO UGA 6:31 0:02

14 Yohei KOMATSU JPN 6:31 0:02

15 Enyew MEKONNEN ETH 6:31 0:02

16 Richard YATOR KEN 6:32 0:03

17 Robel FSIHA SWE 6:32 0:03

18 Rhonex KIPRUTO KEN 6:32 0:03

19 Rodgers KWEMOI KEN 6:32 0:03

20 Abdi FUFA ETH 6:32 0:03

21 Andamlak BELIHU ETH 6:32 0:03

22 Maxwell ROTICH UGA 6:32 0:03

23 Mehari TSEGAY ERI 6:33 0:04

24 Aras KAYA TUR 6:33 0:04

25 Albert ROP BRN 6:33 0:04

26 Joshua CHEPTEGEI UGA 6:33 0:04

27 Evans Keitany KIPTUM KEN 6:34 0:05

28 Shadrack KIPCHIRCHIR USA 6:34 0:05

29 Amos KIRUI KEN 6:35 0:06

30 Hamid BEN DAOUD ESP 6:35 0:06

31 Hassan CHANI BRN 6:35 0:06

32 Onesphore NZIKWINKUNDA BDI 6:35 0:06

33 Emanuel Giniki GISAMODA TAN 6:36 0:07

34 Felicien MUHITIRA RWA 6:36 0:07

35 Thabang MOSIAKO RSA 6:37 0:08

36 Lesiba Precious MASHELE RSA 6:37 0:08

37 Mogos TUEMAY ETH 6:37 0:08

38 Emmanuel ROUDOLFF-LÉVISSE FRA 6:37 0:08

39 Hillary BOR USA 6:37 0:08

40 Ryan MPHAHLELE RSA 6:38 0:09

41 Gabriel Gerald GEAY TAN 6:38 0:09

42 Zelalem BACHA BRN 6:38 0:09

43 Napoleon SOLOMON SWE 6:39 0:10

44 Emmanuel BOR USA 6:39 0:10

45 Rodrigue KWIZERA BDI 6:39 0:10

46 Michael GRAS FRA 6:39 0:10

47 Pakiso MTHEMBU RSA 6:39 0:10

48 Brett ROBINSON AUS 6:40 0:11

49 Mike TATE CAN 6:40 0:11

50 Bonsa DIDA ETH 6:40 0:11

51 Harry SUMMERS AUS 6:40 0:11

52 Matthew RAMSDEN AUS 6:41 0:12

53 Christophe TUYISHIMIRE RWA 6:41 0:12

54 Joseph Tiophil PANGA TAN 6:42 0:13

55 Rapula DIPHOKO BOT 6:42 0:13

56 Jack RAYNER AUS 6:42 0:13

57 Yemane HAILESELASSIE ERI 6:42 0:13

58 Matt BAXTER NZL 6:42 0:13

59 Leonard KORIR USA 6:43 0:14

60 Sesebo MATLAPENG BOT 6:43 0:14

61 Awet HABTE ERI 6:43 0:14

62 Thomas SHIGWEDHA NAM 6:43 0:14

63 Tesfu TEWELDE ERI 6:44 0:15

64 Ross MILLINGTON GBR 6:44 0:15

65 Adam HICKEY GBR 6:44 0:15

66 Theophile BIGIRIMANA RWA 6:45 0:16

67 Mohammed MOUSSAOUI FRA 6:45 0:16

68 Yuta BANDO JPN 6:45 0:16

69 José Luis ROJAS PER 6:46 0:17

70 Ayad LAMDASSEM ESP 6:47 0:18

71 Marco MONKO TAN 6:47 0:18

72 Yusuke TAMURA JPN 6:47 0:18

73 Ehab EL-SANDALI CAN 6:47 0:18

74 Patrick DEVER GBR 6:47 0:18

75 Noel HITIMANA RWA 6:47 0:18

76 Oliver FOX GBR 6:47 0:18

77 Juan Antonio PÉREZ ESP 6:48 0:19

78 Francis Damiano DAMASI TAN 6:48 0:19

79 Yuhi NAKAYA JPN 6:48 0:19

80 Johnatas DE OLIVEIRA BRA 6:48 0:19

81 Abdi Daud ROBLE SOM 6:48 0:19

82 Canisious NYAMUTSITA ZIM 6:48 0:19

83 Luke TRAYNOR GBR 6:48 0:19

84 Kabelo SEBOKO RSA 6:49 0:20

85 Mahamed MAHAMED GBR 6:49 0:20

86 Filmon ANDE ERI 6:49 0:20

87 Sean TOBIN IRL 6:49 0:20

88 Kosei YAMAGUCHI JPN 6:49 0:20

89 Abdi Hakin ULAD DEN 6:49 0:20

90 Rui TEIXEIRA POR 6:49 0:20

91 Mikkel DAHL-JESSEN DEN 6:49 0:20

92 Yusuke NISHIYAMA JPN 6:50 0:21

93 Mason FERLIC USA 6:50 0:21

94 Jack BRUCE AUS 6:51 0:22

95 Ben PREISNER CAN 6:51 0:22

96 Rory LINKLETTER CAN 6:52 0:23

97 John GAY CAN 6:52 0:23

98 Andre RAMOS BRA 6:52 0:23

99 Fernando CARRO ESP 6:53 0:24

100 Jianqi PENG CHN 6:53 0:24

101 Nicolas Antonio DA SILVA BRA 6:53 0:24

102 Olivier IRABARUTA BDI 6:53 0:24

103 Ole HESSELBJERG DEN 6:54 0:25

104 Kevin DOONEY IRL 6:54 0:25

105 Jamal Abdelmaji EISA MOHAMMED ART 6:54 0:25

106 Callan MOODY NZL 6:54 0:25

107 Jacob SIMONSEN DEN 6:55 0:26

108 Peter GLANS DEN 6:56 0:27

109 Peter WHEELER NZL 6:58 0:29

110 Yves SIKUBWABO CAN 6:58 0:29

111 Edward MWANZA ZAM 7:00 0:31

112 Said SULAYMANOV KAZ 7:00 0:31

113 Juan QUIJADA CHI 7:00 0:31

114 Omar RAMOS PER 7:01 0:32

115 Nader JABER LBN 7:02 0:33

116 Mohammad DOOKUN MRI 7:02 0:33

117 Thijs NIJHUIS DEN 7:03 0:34

118 Otmane NAIT HAMMOU ART 7:04 0:35

119 Federico BRUNO ARG 7:04 0:35

120 Adrian GARCEA ROU 7:05 0:36

121 Joshua BAAN NZL 7:05 0:36

122 Glenison GILBERT DE CARVALHO BRA 7:09 0:40

123 Gaylord SILLY SEY 7:12 0:43

124 Zhoodar KOCHKONBAEV KGZ 7:13 0:44

125 Vasyl KOVAL UKR 7:14 0:45

126 Nicolás CUESTAS URU 7:16 0:47

127 Ahmed MOHARRAM EGY 7:17 0:48

128 Iven MOISE SEY 7:18 0:49

129 Amu MAO CHN 7:20 0:51

130 Janis VISKERS LAT 7:24 0:55

131 Imad JIZZINI LBN 7:26 0:57

132 Oscar Antonio ALDANA ESA 7:27 0:58

133 Omar BACHIR NIG 7:34 1:05

134 Yadav ANIL KUMAR IND 7:34 1:05

135 Juan HUAMAN PER 7:34 1:05

136 Shaobo CAO CHN 7:36 1:07

137 Andrew GRECH MLT 7:39 1:10

138 Yuxi LUO CHN 7:40 1:11

139 Tholego KEITSHEKILE BOT 7:40 1:11

140 Wan Chun WONG HKG 7:42 1:13

141 Ali WAYZANI LBN 7:49 1:20

and Lap 2

FINAL

SPLITS

1ST LAP

2ND LAP

RESULT

30/03/2019 09:00 (14:00 LOCAL TIME)

2ND LAP SPLIT

RANK ATHLETE COUNTRY MARK GAP

1 Jacob KIPLIMO UGA 12:47 0:00

2 Aron KIFLE ERI 12:47 0:00

3 Geoffrey KAMWOROR KEN 12:47 0:00

4 Birhanu BALEW BRN 12:48 0:01

5 Thierry NDIKUMWENAYO BDI 12:48 0:01

6 Selemon BAREGA ETH 12:48 0:01

7 Rhonex KIPRUTO KEN 12:48 0:01

8 Joel AYEKO UGA 12:49 0:02

9 Joshua CHEPTEGEI UGA 12:49 0:02

10 Ouassim OUMAIZ ERROUCH ESP 12:49 0:02

11 Andamlak BELIHU ETH 12:49 0:02

12 Albert CHEMUTAI UGA 12:49 0:02

13 Onesphore NZIKWINKUNDA BDI 12:51 0:04

14 Richard YATOR KEN 12:52 0:05

15 Dawit FIKADU BRN 12:52 0:05

16 Abdi FUFA ETH 12:53 0:06

17 Thomas AYEKO UGA 12:53 0:06

18 Robel FSIHA SWE 12:53 0:06

19 Rodgers KWEMOI KEN 12:54 0:07

20 Mogos TUEMAY ETH 12:56 0:09

21 Rodrigue KWIZERA BDI 12:58 0:11

22 Albert ROP BRN 12:58 0:11

23 Amos KIRUI KEN 12:59 0:12

24 Lesiba Precious MASHELE RSA 12:59 0:12

25 Enyew MEKONNEN ETH 13:00 0:13

26 Aras KAYA TUR 13:01 0:14

27 Stanley Kipkoech KEBENEI USA 13:01 0:14

28 Mehari TSEGAY ERI 13:02 0:15

29 Evans Keitany KIPTUM KEN 13:02 0:15

30 Maxwell ROTICH UGA 13:04 0:17

31 Shadrack KIPCHIRCHIR USA 13:05 0:18

32 Hassan CHANI BRN 13:06 0:19

33 Bonsa DIDA ETH 13:09 0:22

34 Brett ROBINSON AUS 13:10 0:23

35 Faraja Damas LAZARO TAN 13:10 0:23

36 Yemane HAILESELASSIE ERI 13:10 0:23

37 Filmon ANDE ERI 13:10 0:23

38 Ryan MPHAHLELE RSA 13:12 0:25

39 Harry SUMMERS AUS 13:12 0:25

40 Emmanuel ROUDOLFF-LÉVISSE FRA 13:13 0:26

41 Hillary BOR USA 13:13 0:26

42 Awet HABTE ERI 13:14 0:27

43 Joseph Tiophil PANGA TAN 13:14 0:27

44 Sesebo MATLAPENG BOT 13:14 0:27

45 Napoleon SOLOMON SWE 13:15 0:28

46 Theophile BIGIRIMANA RWA 13:16 0:29

47 Pakiso MTHEMBU RSA 13:17 0:30

48 Emmanuel BOR USA 13:19 0:32

49 Matthew RAMSDEN AUS 13:19 0:32

50 Felicien MUHITIRA RWA 13:20 0:33

51 Hamid BEN DAOUD ESP 13:20 0:33

52 Adam HICKEY GBR 13:20 0:33

53 Francis Damiano DAMASI TAN 13:21 0:34

54 José Luis ROJAS PER 13:21 0:34

55 Jack RAYNER AUS 13:21 0:34

56 Patrick DEVER GBR 13:22 0:35

57 Tesfu TEWELDE ERI 13:22 0:35

58 Matt BAXTER NZL 13:23 0:36

59 Leonard KORIR USA 13:24 0:37

60 Michael GRAS FRA 13:24 0:37

61 Marco MONKO TAN 13:25 0:38

62 Oliver FOX GBR 13:25 0:38

63 Thabang MOSIAKO RSA 13:26 0:39

64 Yohei KOMATSU JPN 13:26 0:39

65 Gabriel Gerald GEAY TAN 13:28 0:41

66 Rui TEIXEIRA POR 13:29 0:42

67 Noel HITIMANA RWA 13:30 0:43

68 Christophe TUYISHIMIRE RWA 13:30 0:43

69 Mason FERLIC USA 13:30 0:43

70 Mahamed MAHAMED GBR 13:30 0:43

71 Ayad LAMDASSEM ESP 13:31 0:44

72 Fernando CARRO ESP 13:31 0:44

73 Ross MILLINGTON GBR 13:31 0:44

74 Rapula DIPHOKO BOT 13:33 0:46

75 Zelalem BACHA BRN 13:33 0:46

76 Kosei YAMAGUCHI JPN 13:33 0:46

77 Olivier IRABARUTA BDI 13:34 0:47

78 Abdi Hakin ULAD DEN 13:34 0:47

79 Emanuel Giniki GISAMODA TAN 13:34 0:47

80 Yuta BANDO JPN 13:34 0:47

81 Juan Antonio PÉREZ ESP 13:35 0:48

82 Yusuke TAMURA JPN 13:38 0:51

83 Rory LINKLETTER CAN 13:39 0:52

84 Ben PREISNER CAN 13:39 0:52

85 Sean TOBIN IRL 13:40 0:53

86 Ole HESSELBJERG DEN 13:40 0:53

87 Abdi Daud ROBLE SOM 13:41 0:54

88 Mike TATE CAN 13:42 0:55

89 Ehab EL-SANDALI CAN 13:43 0:56

90 Canisious NYAMUTSITA ZIM 13:43 0:56

91 Mohammed MOUSSAOUI FRA 13:43 0:56

92 Johnatas DE OLIVEIRA BRA 13:44 0:57

93 Jacob SIMONSEN DEN 13:44 0:57

94 Yuhi NAKAYA JPN 13:44 0:57

95 Peter GLANS DEN 13:45 0:58

96 Jamal Abdelmaji EISA MOHAMMED ART 13:45 0:58

97 John GAY CAN 13:47 1:00

98 Jack BRUCE AUS 13:48 1:01

99 Luke TRAYNOR GBR 13:51 1:04

100 Yves SIKUBWABO CAN 13:53 1:06

101 Kevin DOONEY IRL 13:53 1:06

102 Callan MOODY NZL 13:54 1:07

103 Thomas SHIGWEDHA NAM 13:55 1:08

104 Peter WHEELER NZL 13:55 1:08

105 Federico BRUNO ARG 13:56 1:09

106 Yusuke NISHIYAMA JPN 13:58 1:11

107 Kabelo SEBOKO RSA 13:59 1:12

108 Omar RAMOS PER 13:59 1:12

109 Andre RAMOS BRA 14:02 1:15

110 Jianqi PENG CHN 14:04 1:17

111 Thijs NIJHUIS DEN 14:05 1:18

112 Mikkel DAHL-JESSEN DEN 14:07 1:20

113 Edward MWANZA ZAM 14:07 1:20

114 Glenison GILBERT DE CARVALHO BRA 14:11 1:24

115 Juan QUIJADA CHI 14:13 1:26

116 Ahmed MOHARRAM EGY 14:16 1:29

117 Adrian GARCEA ROU 14:19 1:32

118 Mohammad DOOKUN MRI 14:23 1:36

119 Nicolás CUESTAS URU 14:24 1:37

120 Nader JABER LBN 14:31 1:44

121 Gaylord SILLY SEY 14:32 1:45

122 Said SULAYMANOV KAZ 14:36 1:49

123 Otmane NAIT HAMMOU ART 14:41 1:54

124 Nicolas Antonio DA SILVA BRA 14:43 1:56

125 Janis VISKERS LAT 14:44 1:57

126 Joshua BAAN NZL 14:46 1:59

127 Amu MAO CHN 14:48 2:01

128 Juan HUAMAN PER 14:49 2:02

129 Vasyl KOVAL UKR 14:57 2:10

130 Zhoodar KOCHKONBAEV KGZ 14:57 2:10

131 Iven MOISE SEY 14:59 2:12

132 Imad JIZZINI LBN 15:03 2:16

douglas burke wrote:

Look at the Personal Best's of the first European after 2 laps

https://www.iaaf.org/athletes/spain/ouassim-oumaiz-errouch-300260

He is the guy who got crushed by Jakob Ingebrigtsen at Euro cross U20 in december. I'm quite sure he overpaced and will pay for it.

Working stream:

https://www.stream2watch.ws/live/arena-sport-4

rojo wrote:

Canada beat the US in the women's race. What the hell happened to Japan? They often medal don't they? They were 12th.

For some reason Japan only had four runners entered in the race, so even a single bad result made it impossible to get a good place in the team race. Not that any of the Japanese ran that great today.

But Bor moving back was misleaidng as he was only 3 seocnds ahead of US #2 after lap 1 . Everyone was stillclose together.