FISHER AND KIPCHOGE ARE A LOT CLOSER TO EACH OTHER THAN WALMSLEY AND MILLER LOL. ZERO DEPTH IN ULTRAS, WORSE SO FOR WOMEN
OMG you’re so right, someone who may have slightly less leg speed couldn’t possibly be better than someone else at longer distances. That’s never happened before!!!
There's a nice article on her in the NY Times from a couple days ago that gives insight, and it's a lot quicker review than listening to Rich Roll's podcast. But the general outline is as French Feed said: get out the door, run how you feel; do some strength work, do some speed work. Not terribly regimented, which is how she wants it, because she can do what her body wants (and most importantly, is ready for) on any given day. Mileage gets up over 140+, and remember that this is at 10,000 feet of elevation or more (she lives in Leadville).
Zach Miller's wife is a nutritionist? Maybe she instructed him to blow through those aid stations. Maybe it would've been closer if he fueled more?
Watching them at the station making that coke concoction, it spilling out everywhere, me thinking damn that’s gonna feel gross and sticky in a minute. Jim crossed looking fresh, Zach came through looking like he’d been roughin’ it
Anyway was a great race. Not quite 2017 but patient Jim, guides by the smart words of Le Pickle Bro. Bided his time rather than trying to break everyone over the first 100k. Very happy for him. Question is though after he went all in on this pursuit - what is next..?
Why do we need to compare runners at different distances in an effort to diminish people’s accomplishments?
It seems to be a mental deficiency of some type for those that do. Either that or some type of self validation by attempting to cut others down. Perhaps indicating a lack of love and attention growing up. Or maybe it is manifesting of anger for failing in their own running goals.
letsrun would be a Petri dish of study for an abnormal Psychologist
Tom Watson once commented on Tiger Wood’s US Open performance at Pebble Beach (may have been when he held all 4 majors) we may never see anything like this again enjoy it. Some don’t get it but if you do savor it. Also so true in art.
We compare runners at different sistances to show what a LACK of depth there is in ULTRAS. Like looking for sub 28 10k in Africa and USA. Zero depth in ultras
We compare runners at different sistances to show what a LACK of depth there is in ULTRAS. Like looking for sub 28 10k in Africa and USA. Zero depth in ultras
You can’t compare a 5k to a 100mi mountain race. They are completely different sports, requiring different skill sets, different muscle structures, the the “suffering” is completely different. You’d be better off comparing Ironman triathletes to ultra runners. But you wouldn’t know that because you’ve never run one and just like to talk crap on athletes more accomplished than you.
Doesn't really count - easier course, weak field, perfect weather, and mostly importantly, the GOAT himself Killian wasn't there. Try again next year little Jim.
while I agree about Walmsley this is a dumb take re Courtney. Road results mean nothing for a race like UTMB and aside from that she dominates in various ultras including at Backyard style ultras. There maybe be less competition among the women but that doesn’t really mean much when she’s lowering CR’s by huge margins and so far ahead of second in pretty much every race she does.
I agree that it's ridiculous to compare Courtney to other dominate female runners. Richardson isn't the same as Kipyegon because they run completely different things. Ultra distance is a different sport than other long-distance races (even marathons). I love Courtney's spirit and her ability in a variety of ultras.
But you can compare winning percentage. Whether it is 200 miles or 60 meters you are racing against your peers. I can't think of anyone with a winning percentage or margin as a percentage of total distance that is even close to her.
Does anyone have any insight into Dawaulter's training? She's incredible at 100+ but seems to hardly race underdistance, so I'd be curious to know her approach.
The agony of running ultramarathons is bearable, she discovered — even instructive, if you think about it the right way. And she learned how to win as few have ever won before.
FISHER AND KIPCHOGE ARE A LOT CLOSER TO EACH OTHER THAN WALMSLEY AND MILLER LOL. ZERO DEPTH IN ULTRAS, WORSE SO FOR WOMEN
Exactly. My story: D1 AA turned to trails after mini road career aiming for Trials. My first year trails UltraRunning Magazine ranked me #2 based on a huge performance. BTW UTMB wasn’t the big thing back then, people don’t realize that; my boss even placed Top 5 at UTMB just based on being fit and living in Italy. Just like half marathons weren’t a thing for guys racing roads in the 80s 90s 00s.
Fields are lacking any talent depth. Watch Matthieu in Kenya when they laugh at him bc he is broken can’t run no firm overweight and dude got 2nd at UTMB last year and 4-5th this year?
Tom Watson once commented on Tiger Wood’s US Open performance at Pebble Beach (may have been when he held all 4 majors) we may never see anything like this again enjoy it. Some don’t get it but if you do savor it. Also so true in art.
I have the clip of Jim finishing in 2017 on my phone, when he crossed the line in 5th totally broken and then saw Francois and just broke down. I love it, it’s so raw. From there to last night… I definitely savoured it.
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