Do you believe we are being visited by intelligent aliens from another planet?

If you understand computers at all, that’s just a blatantly false claim, but maybe you are just saying you don’t understand it.

Fair point, but there's a lot of chaos in the chain of geology/evolution that can easily shift forward/backward the development of intelligent organisms by billions of years. e.g. we never had today's O2 levels until about 1billion yrs ago (no double threshold workouts before then). If one of the preceding steps had not occurred, such as photosynthesis, we might never have had enough O2 for our animals to evolve and earth or other planets may just establish homeostasis on single celled organisms, or non O2 based organisms, which i suppose could be multi cellular.

I guess, as you say, if you throw enough life-supporting planets into the mix, eliminating the ones not subsumed by a sun that turned into a red giant before dying out (we still have 5bn yrs or so left), there could be overlap, but then we have to find each other, and then decide on swiping left/right. Someone has probably calculated the odds, maybe chatgpt knows.

Ever heard of Koomey's law? Not a blatantly false claim. To the contrary, historically accurate.

en.wikipedia.org

Koomey%27s_law

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Among other things, AI would be extremely efficient in harnessing resources and presumably able to do a lot of parallel processing

Ok, from your phrasing, it wasn’t at all clear you meant power per unit computation over time. I’m familiar with scaling laws but we have already starting hitting architectural limits with those, and it’s anyone’s guess for how long and how quantum or other future technologies might scale.

Irrespective of tech, it is strange to expect more computation to not need more power even over time in the long term. How are you imagining even a simple inversion of one bit of information (represented how?) possibly taking place without a minimum quantum of power expenditure? That seems inconsistent with the entropy non-decrease law of thermodynamics.

Poseur got caught posing. You don’t understand the second law, nor statistical thermodynamics

All this hullabaloo and all we get is second hand evidence.

Not necessarily. And there is certainly no reason to be ugly to each other. What is being utilized are principles that have not been “discovered” yet as well as utilization of previously unknown materials- ie (element 215) that creates a scenario with zero resistance or element 115 (ie181) that creates a distortion field. For example, what is known and does not change is that f=ma. That will always be. That does not change despite the time created from a distortion field

T= m^((s1-s2)^3)/D^3

Also take into account the energy required to form the “bubble” in a time distortion field, largely based on the speed and mass of the object. Specifically, particle acceleration (atom of preferably xenon) powered by electricity (shocker!) is accelerated in a toroidal tube with E251 magnetic properties on the outside. This allows acceleration of the particle at far superior speeds than what could be achieved with “regular” copper in an electromagnet. Once at specific speed, any body with a sufficient mass generates a distortion field, effectively creating a space/time distortion (averages out in a toroidal motion creeated by the tube). Lastly, quantum entanglement plays a huge part in travel, and currently being developed for communication over infinite distances. Though we have essentially created worm holes in a vacuum, they stay open only for an extreme finite amount on time. It’s just enough to measure the energy in what is either another galaxy or possibly even another dimension. “Stealing” energy from this region is entirely possible (ie free energy); but the current problem to be worked out lies in the fact that it actually costs more energy to create the connection than the amount of energy that can be removed from the small amount of time that the wormhole is open. Every universe has a finite amount of energy, but we can bring energy from another universe into our own.

Reactionless drives as engines is also another technological concept that is being studied/worked on. Applications would be immediate.

This is probably way more than the overwhelming majority would want to know here; but suffice it to say that there is so much more currently in use/being developed than even the most educated amongst us are aware of.

*E251

The truth that we absolutely hate to admit: We simply don’t know. Calling them “intelligent aliens” is just our “modern” term for what we used to assign to the unknown: you know, witches, demons, ghosts, or a deity. But it’s not cool to use those terms now since we have supposedly evolved….

I can’t care what you think about me. Seen too much blather from you on too many threads.

Really is time for our government to show the rest of those aliens they have. Why they refuse to come clean makes no sense.

I know for a fact there are others out there just don;t what......yet,

None of this has to do with the second law - namely the tendency of a system to have it’s entropy increase over time.

I don’t want to be mean, but what you wrote is arrant nonsense. Show me the paper in science, nature, physical review letters, or a similar quantity research journal that lays out the field equations for what you described.

Quantum entanglement is not being ‘developed.’ It is a property of matter.

You claim we have created a wormhole. That has never happened and they are still purely theoretical.

What you wrote looks like a plot synopsis for a Christopher Nolan movie or something. It’s not real life…. I don’t know where you got all those words from, but when you say something like ’reactionless drives as engines’ it makes as much sense as Paulie Walnuts saying “…the framus intersects with the ramistan, approximately at the paternoster.”

Some of the argument lies within that this information is withheld as classified under “national security”. Many of these non human biological entities are not what you think- they’re technology of biological and non biological interface- essentially technology/creation hybrids. Basically, as with the rest of the tech being reverse engineered, the government wants to have it fully developed before it’s ever released. Know that ALL of this tech is first given preference to the military. It is all partitioned out in layers as well so that no one working on a project knows everything about the entire project as a whole.

Look for some anti-gravitic tech to begin to make its way into the general public realm over the next decade, with the increase in laser applications also making a large entry.

1) You care enough to respond. And whether or not you like me, or care what I think, I called you out directly on a scientific point and you engage in an ad hominem. That tells me that your feelings are hurt and I’m sorry, but you are spouting arrant nonsense.

2) At least I have the guts to post under my own name and I have for well over 20 years here. I know physics and I will correct people when they are claiming to speak on scientific authority. This is far too dangerous a subject and when you have kooks testifying in front of congress about alien spacecraft and things that are purely natural and explicable phenomena, it’s time for the adults in the room to stand up. Sorry/not sorry if that offends you.

I would think the same if I were in your shoes. No offense taken whatsoever. Zero. And it’s odd to even discuss these matters on an athletics forum.

You’ll not find that formula in any journal, so don’t waste your time. I should also note that I should have specified that quantum entanglement is being used as a basic premise building block law for communication- that was poor expression on my part. Keep your eyes out over the next 30-50 (?) years for the aforementioned reactionless drive applications, as well as applied destruction of antimatter for supercharged nuclear reactors.

You don’t know what your don’t know. Stop sounding so stupid. I don’t care about your thoughts. I know what I’m talking about and am comfortable.

true or false, it's not meaningful unless there's also a claim that there's enough power available to fuel such an AI, even if it gets more efficient. There is certainly a limit to the power we have on Earth, and harvesting power elsewhere may never be possible, because of the power it requires merely to leave Earth's gravity well.

Electricity providers are already building new infrastructure to handle expected massive server farms, and AI still can't tell you which 3 pictures have motorcycles. So they're not even past Turing, a test that's merely about the appearance of intelligence, not the real thing.

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