So far Valby has gone for a gap way earlier, at about 3k or sooner. I think 2k at regionals? What do you think happens in that scenario?
I think quite awhile back FastTuohy predicted that Valby will go sub-9:40 for the first 3km…. It’ll be interesting if she does.
It's a rolling downhill start for almost a km, then rolling steep rises and a long hill until 3km. I don't think she can separate until this point...this course does not make it easy for her to drop the field...unless she has become a beast on the hills.
I think quite awhile back FastTuohy predicted that Valby will go sub-9:40 for the first 3km…. It’ll be interesting if she does.
It's a rolling downhill start for almost a km, then rolling steep rises and a long hill until 3km. I don't think she can separate until this point...this course does not make it easy for her to drop the field...unless she has become a beast on the hills.
What I recall from the South Regional is Valby pushing up the one hill on that course, and looking to the side with her thumb up. No doubt prep or test for OSU.
“So far Valby has gone for a gap way earlier, at about 3k or sooner.”
A course layout plays in any race strategy. Top of the hill after the first loop at Stillwater is a prime spot to move as it goes dh/flat for the next 1K or so after that. The question of separation before that point comes with the question of, ‘…at what cost’?
People say she can't separate on an uphill. People say she can't separate on a downhill. People say she can't separate on the flat. A faster runner is going to run proportionately faster on every portion of the course.
People say she can't separate on an uphill. People say she can't separate on a downhill. People say she can't separate on the flat. A faster runner is going to run proportionately faster on every portion of the course.
Actually, I haven't seen people say that she can't separate on a hill...from my side, I am saying that I haven't seen it yet. Any race I can find with Valby that was actually hilly, she faded in the last 2km. Now these were old races...so who knows now.
But I do disagree with the comment that a fast runner will be proportionately better on every part of a course. As in other sports, cycling being the easy comparison, great hill climbers are often not your best overall racer. And on this course, as was mentioned in an old post, it is not the actual hill that is the issue...it is how fast you can recover from the last hill and then go into another hill.
It again will come down to whether this is a clean race. So far Valby never shows the slightest fatigue. That goes to why a runner is suddenly faster.
Please refer to post #62 in this thread.
Rojo wrote: If you want to start the "Official 1 and and only I think Tuohy/and/or Valby is doping thread" go ahead but DO NOT post about it in other threads.
I just don’t want to see another thread deleted, and we’re having a great conversation here…
“People say she can't separate on a downhill. People say she can't separate on the flat.”
But we have existence-proof to the contrary, dont we?
As for ‘…hills’, it’s about the second time around — witness SEC and Nationals 2021. When that kind of performance is demonstrated, we can all sing ‘hail’ to the victor.
True. Some are better at downhills and some are better at uphills. But some posters are claiming that courses don't permit serration during to hills without respect to the runner.
