First of all. although I think Athing "misbehaved", there is no way she would get disqualified. And, likewise, if Keely felt aggrieved, she would have felt that putting in a protest was a waste of time. Why? Because over the years the IAAF have turned a blind eye to the dreadful habit of some - many -athletes, forcing other athletes -coming up from behind - sideways in an attempt to impede their forward motion.
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So much whining here by Non-Mu fans
Not a peep in the UK papers. No complaints by the silver medalist.
You have to wonder about the true motivation of the Non-Mu fans.
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Nopeeedope wrote:
So much whining here by Non-Mu fans
Not a peep in the UK papers. No complaints by the silver medalist.
You have to wonder about the true motivation of the Non-Mu fans.
Have you been following this post! Concentrate! I bet if the British press had been privy to head footage, there would have been a fuss made by the UK media, But, no footage has emerged. Strange, that.
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I am a huge Mu fan. I am guessing that most of the people who think her actions were questionable, are fans.
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hodges wrote:
I am a huge Mu fan. I am guessing that most of the people who think her actions were questionable, are fans.
Well, if they are fans of fair play, and all that, they should think her actions were questionable.
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Nona gilbrectsen wrote:
portsea57 wrote:
But, there os enough space for both runners in the photo on the bend! But, Athing changes that situation by deliberately moving to her left and creating the dreadfully crowded situation in the other photo. Athing runs on the outside of her lane, and leaves a space, and Keely has every right move into that space but Athing - realising her mistake -hasn't got the right to then move to her left and impede Keely. Come on, this isn't rocket science.
But what if.. these video frames suggest.. the ruling body might be too scared to rule against a black woman.. listen to yourselves! The question is if this were grounds for a DQ. The answer is very simple, “no.” Invent all the hare-brained scenarios you like, the answer is still no grounds for DQ.
Black woman? Why introduce colour into the debate? I'm talking about two athletes, and as I keep saying there is no way the IAAF would DQ Athing because they have turned a blind eye to lots and lots of far, far worse examples of impeding than in this race.
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portsea57 wrote:
Cavorty wrote:
if you go for a gap on the rail you're taking a chance that it's going to be tight.
Oh dear! But the gap wasn't tight - look at the photo - until Athing chose moved to her left in a deliberate attempt to impede Keely's progress.
Yes, Keely's mistake to try to pass a runner in lane one on the inside and expect no possibility for any contact (I'm not sure if that was her expectation but it certainly seems to be your errant one).
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prognog wrote:
portsea57 wrote:
Oh dear! But the gap wasn't tight - look at the photo - until Athing chose moved to her left in a deliberate attempt to impede Keely's progress.
Yes, Keely's mistake to try to pass a runner in lane one on the inside and expect no possibility for any contact (I'm not sure if that was her expectation but it certainly seems to be your errant one).
Oh dear! Concentrate! A legion of commentators - for last few years - have said that it was Athing who was making a mistake by running on the outside of the lane. Athing=Mistake! Get it! The " situation" occurred when Athing realised her mistake and tried to correct it at Keely's expense!
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portsea57 wrote:
prognog wrote:
Yes, Keely's mistake to try to pass a runner in lane one on the inside and expect no possibility for any contact (I'm not sure if that was her expectation but it certainly seems to be your errant one).
Oh dear! Concentrate! A legion of commentators - for last few years - have said that it was Athing who was making a mistake by running on the outside of the lane. Athing=Mistake! Get it! The " situation" occurred when Athing realised her mistake and tried to correct it at Keely's expense!
You can continue to harp on what someone with a microphone has said during a race but it is of zero importance, despite your insistence. Keely erred by trying to pass someone on the inside who was running in lane 1 (if her goal was to avoid any contact). Will she learn from this mistake? I hope so.
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portsea57 wrote:
The " situation" occurred when Athing realised her mistake and tried to correct it at Keely's expense!
If you bothered to listen to Athing Mu's interview after the race, Athing said that she didn't even know Keely was there until they literally bumped into each other.
And by the time they bumped into each other they were side by side so at that point Athing couldn't have cut her off.
I'm not sure why you are going on and on about this. Even Keely said that she had enough room to run but that she didn't have enough energy left at the end of the race to win.
Your insistence that Keely is lying is just making you look stupid.
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The situation was quite simple. Mu tried to cut Hodgkinson off but Hodgkinson wasn't actually impeded as she hadn't quite drawn level with Mu and didn't have enough in the tank to pass her. So it isn't grounds for disqualification but the move doesn't do Mu any credit with what she was trying to do.
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Well, these photos prove that Athing blocked/impeded Keely deliberately. There's clear space between the athletes at the end of the bend but a stride or so later, Athing is squeezing/crowding/impeding Keely. BTW, look at Moraa and Welteji. They are happily sharing a lane without any crowding or impeding. Now the idea that, when Athing moved, she had no idea that Keely was there is crazy! Look at the photo where they are approaching the straight. It was at the point that Athing either looked up at the big screen and saw Keely, or actually saw her, that she suddenly moved to block Keely.
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portsea57 wrote:
Opps! Here are the new photos!
So you are calling Athing a liar. You could have said so before.
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That you think race photos can prove deliberation shows that you are out of your gourd.
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Fjggu wrote:
portsea57 wrote:
Opps! Here are the new photos!
So you are calling Athing a liar. You could have said so before.
Well, if Athing is saying that she didn't know where Keely was, when she moved to her left...of course she's mistaken. Let's put it that way. Have you looked at the latest photos? BTW, if you click on the wording under the photos, an enlarged version should appear. An enlarged and more damning version of events!
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To enlarge the photos. Don't forget to click on the wording underneath them.
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prognog wrote:
That you think race photos can prove deliberation shows that you are out of your gourd.
what has deliberation got to do with it? The bottom photo showed that Mu was creeping in, but so what? She wasn't dq'd, end of story. I thought is was egregious, but that is just my opinion. The problem with this site is that too many posters want to play official. Go get your certification, pay your dues helping at meets (usually for no pay) for years, then you too might be in a position to make the call. Otherwise let the officials do their job and STFU.
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what a tool wrote:
prognog wrote:
That you think race photos can prove deliberation shows that you are out of your gourd.
what has deliberation got to do with it? The bottom photo showed that Mu was creeping in, but so what? She wasn't dq'd, end of story. I thought is was egregious, but that is just my opinion. The problem with this site is that too many posters want to play official. Go get your certification, pay your dues helping at meets (usually for no pay) for years, then you too might be in a position to make the call. Otherwise let the officials do their job and STFU.
Creeping in! Give over. "Being in denial" isn't strong enough a phrase because you're way beyond there!
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