Anyone ever had a "Sports Hernia" aka: "Sportsman's hernia", "Gilmore's groin", or &quot

I wish you the best Hockey Player, be strong and come out of it ready to rehab. You'll feel so much better once you get on the other side of this thing.

Mike in Va

JC - I don't have my surgical reports handy as the insurance company needed them to review on my claim. Maybe something around the external oblique, if memory serves me correct.

So, is Muschaweck performing surgeries in Denver?

Or is she just seeing patients?

and what is this a.r.t. rehab?

Is it online somewhere?

UM does surgery in Germany. Only examines people in different US cities.

ART is a massage technique not a rehab program. It means Active Release Therapy.

xrunner,

ART is soft tissue management... it helps break up scar tissue and relieve inflammation. It has worked very well for me thus far. If you have chronic tightness anywhere or a previous injury, it will likely help you.

Are you getting massage around the incision sight to remove scar tissue? I was undergoing this therapy before my surgery with Dr. UM. When I asked her if I should continue post-op from her procedure she said it was a waste of time and I was spending money on therapy that did nothing more than subject myself to pain 20 minutes per session.

I'm sure other surgeons opinions differ, but it was an interesting point.

Today is 4 weeks post-op from Dr. UM for repair of 3cm tear on my left side.

I played two sets of Tennis last night after 30min of core work, lifting light weights and going for a 2 mile jog. All of my post-surgical nerve pain is 90% gone and there is only light incision soreness at this point. I really don't feel the injury at all anymore unless I press around it with my fingers. Lateral movements during Tennis last night were completely pain free. If everything keeps at this rate, the injury will be a memory at 6 weeks like Dr. UM told me.

Good luck to all of you going into surgery the next two weeks. I'll update again at 6 weeks.

Mike in Va

Rem,

Actually, a good deal of the ART therapy is for surrounding and affected muscle groups... psoas, hamstrings, adductors, abs etc. However, during the ART therapy around my abs, it caused some irritation of my incision. But my ART specialist speculated that it broke up some scar tissue around the incision. Before that it was really tight and I had a really hard ridge around the incision. That is now gone and my abs have loosened up considerably. Don't confuse ART therapy with mobilization of the incision. I was instructed to massage around the incision myself. And to be honest, I don't know if massaging around the incision itself a waste of time. ART therapy, as I understand it, is to remove what they call "adhesions" on muscles which have been overworked or stressed.

Got good news today....MCL is healing and does not need surgery and insurance paid for my AP surgery with Meyers. It took 8 weeks but it came through. In another 3 weeks when the knee fully heals I can just concentrate on AP recovery and plantar fasciatis. Sucks to have to work on 4 injuries

AP

MCL

PF

Opposite side lumbar is tender due to years of overcompensation...but it is getting better....

I think i will be one of the 6-9 month total heals because I still get some heavy inflammation in the adductors on occasion.

That's good news Albert. I am still getting some inflammation in my adductors too... but I'm trying to be patient.

I think you said you've tried ART therapy before, but I read that it can help plantar fasciatis.

hey all, I was just wondering when UM goes back to Germany? Did she already?

Also is an ingunal hernia a lot easier to repair and a shorter recovery time than sportsmans groin? I thought I had sports hernia but I think I just had a pinched nerve from ingunal hernia, I have full mobility no pain, even sprinting, jumping, getting put of bed and I sleep great on both sides but I can feel problems in ingunal and tiny movements and sometimes feel straining and slight pinching.

All my friends and family think I'm crazy for wanting to go to Germany, but when u want the best, get the best.

Never had ART but i go for NMT.

It was funny but for 3 weeks after my surgery my PF disappeared. My muscle guy thinks it is because my muscles became so relaxed. The fascia gets tight because an overtight soleus muscle.

I am learning patience for sure but i can see myself completely healthy soon.

I am sending prayers to Tiff and Hockey Player who went under the knife today. Have a gentle week and relax.

helpersssz,

Dr. M told me she will be back at her Munich office on Monday, so I assume she's gone or almost gone. I will tell you what Dr M told me...

The difference between the sportsman's groin and inguinal hernia is the tear. The procedure to repair is the same provided the tear is not more than 2 cm and the tissue is of good quality.

People think I'm crazy for considering Germany as well. I don't want mesh, but it's hard to explain to people when virtually every doctor in this country uses mesh. I'm also considering the Shouldice Clinic in Canada - you should too.

Dr. M is 4600 euro for one side repair and 8800 euro for bilateral repair (plus taxi, meds, and room). I'm expecting a quote from Shouldice next week. My insurance will pay for the surgery (60%), but I'm trying to clarify with them if I can voluntarily go out of the country for surgery. I've gotten a yes and a no so far.

I should add...

Also per Dr. M recovery time is a few days longer if she has to use the shouldice procedure (larger tear or poorer quality tissue) than the minimal repair (sports hernia or small inguinal hernia w/ good tissue).

Who told you epididymis couldn't be treated? It can. I tested negative for epididymis associated w/ my groin pain and still given oral antibiotics by my GP "just in case" because she couldn't figure out what was causing my groin pain.

I've never been hit in the nuts so hard it caused lingering groin pain, but I can't imagine the symptoms are the same because bruises and strains/tears feel drastically different.

Not sure exactly where you were going w/ your post.. Are you suggesting most people who think they have SH have epididymis? I think its unlikely... 2 cents.

Who told you epididymis couldn't be treated? It can. I tested negative for epididymis associated w/ my groin pain and still given oral antibiotics by my GP "just in case" because she couldn't figure out what was causing my groin pain.I've never been hit in the nuts so hard it caused lingering groin pain, but I can't imagine the symptoms are the same because bruises and strains/tears feel drastically different.Not sure exactly where you were going w/ your post.. Are you suggesting most people who think they have SH have epididymis? I think its unlikely... 2 cents.

arek wrote:

you know its funny too, a lot of guys with SH seem to describe same symptoms as epididymitis, which they say you can get from infection but also strenuous excersise and direct blows to the groin. But what happens when u get hit in the groin? U curl up in a ball and clench all those muscles so hard. And ive heard guys say they got SH from getting hit in the groin.

Also I read epididymitis is the number one medical discharge from the army. Because they cant treat it and it can become to aggrivating. Hmmm sound familiar? SH.... They say they just cant find anything else wrong with these guys.. Sound familiar?? SH.....

Hi All,

I had the surgery with Dr. Meyers yesterday and thought I'd update you all on my progress.

Everything went well and I am feeling much better than I expected I would. It was a long day. They told me to report to the hospital at 10:45 but I didn't clear admissions and get sent to pre-op/anesthesia until about 12:45. All the doctors and nurses were very courteous and very thorough and made me feel very comfortable through the whole process.

Dr. Meyers came to see me in pre-op right before they gave me the anesthesia and marked the sites of my pain. Then, I got "something to relax me" through the IV before the actual anesthesia. Last thing I remember was being wheeled into the OR and they attached some electrodes to my chest and shoulders. Then I was out.

I woke up in pain but it wasn't excruciating, and I was surprisingly coherent. Not nauseous at all. They gave me a dose of morphine for the pain and ice packs on the incision sites. About an hour later I went upstairs to a hospital bed. Before they let you leave you need to eat something without throwing it up (sometimes anesthesia prevents that), pee without problems and take a walk around the hospital floor. I did all of that within about an hour and a half and I was outta there a bit before 8 pm and back in my hotel a few minutes later.

So far the pain has been not as bad as expected, as long as I take it very slow and avoid sudden movements. I've only taken one percoset and that was last night to get comfortable right before going to sleep. Right now I am on no meds and the pain is quite bearable.

I know some of you who post here regularly are scheduled for the procedure next week so hopefully you'll find the account of my experience helpful. Let me know if you have any questions and good luck!

Oh, yeah: I should add that Dr. Meyers looked at my adductors during the procedure because they appeared tight/tender during my Tuesday exam but he did not do the release. He did shoot my pubic bone with cortisone because I had some inflamation/osteitis pubis there.