Pointing the obvious nepotism and cronyism that rules the US today gets the usual whiners going. Look at the top positions in Biden’s cabinet. Same nepotistic b.s. that is claimed to be diverse.
Are any of Biden's relatives or friends or children in his cabinet? Working in any senior government position? Have undue influence on any government position, provided with government clearance? I don't see or know of any. Please provide names and then compare those names to all of trump's children and inlaws. And then we will also address trump and his family enriching themselves by billion$s four years ago.
Biden pardoned his son last week. That's "undue influence on government".
We can debate degrees of corruption between Trump and Biden, but don't debase yourself acting like the Democrats aren't also corrupt.
What I don't get is that this happend in the USA. Where were all the patriotic conceiled weapon owners to interrupt the attack or at least threaten the perpetrator to give up the escape?
I'm not a huge fan of insurance companies. But to celebrate the murder of someone just because they happen to head a company you don't like is insane. Insurance contracts of alm types (medical, home, auto, etc.) All have exclusionary language. They can't cover everything, otherwise premiums would be unaffordable. And i doubt the CEO is making individual policy level coverage decisions. He was a young guy with a family. Nobody here knew him, he could have been a good guy for all we know. But even if he was a jerk, that doesn't mean he deserved to be brutally murdered. I really can't believe how many people are happy someone was killed just because they happened to lead an insurance company. Its disgusting where we've come as a society
10 million a year is really not that much. It’s enough to not worry about basic things like cars, boats, 1st Class, house, vacation house. But you can get overextended very quickly if trying to keep up with the CEO joneses.
Ok. I know it’s a lot, but it’s about perspective.
Agree - I was actually surprised how little he earned. I'd guess his comp is a lot further down the Fortune 500, than their profits
$10 million is just his publicly reported compensation, for optics. He most likely got several times that in bonuses, stock options, deferred pay, housing allowance, golden parachute, etc. All structured to take maximum advantage of tax loopholes.
I don't think people truly appreciate just the extent to which these companies push costs off onto other parties and make things more expensive for everyone else.
One example: Many patients getting discharged from the hospital need to go to a nursing facility for at least a week or two to do some PT and get their strength back. Especially for older patients with a lot of comorbitities, there's usually a stretch where they are healthy enough to leave the hospital but not yet well enough to return home.
Crappy insurance companies LOVE to drag their feet on approving skilled nursing facility placement. The result is that people get stuck in the hospital for days while they wait for some insurance company pencil pusher to finally find the cheapest, crappiest facility available and approve it. If you pick any random group of 10 patients from a general medical floor at a US hospital, odds are at least 1 or 2 of those patients are just waiting for SNF and have no other reason to still be in the hospital.
This is good for the insurance company because by common billing models, they don't actually pay more to keep the patient in the hospital longer. They send a set payout based on the diagnosis. So whether a COPD exacerbation gets discharged on day 5 when they're medically clear or they sit around and don't leave until day 10, the insurance company pays the same amount for the hospitalization.
This is terrible for everyone except the insurance companies. For the hospital, it means that they're just eating the cost of keeping patients for days and days. When the hospital gets stuck with extra costs, these end up getting passed on to the rest of us. For the patient, there is the discomfort of being in the hospital along with risks like hospital acquired infections. But because the insurance company can make more profit by delaying placement, the rest of us have to deal with it.
I'm not a huge fan of insurance companies. But to celebrate the murder of someone just because they happen to head a company you don't like is insane. Insurance contracts of alm types (medical, home, auto, etc.) All have exclusionary language. They can't cover everything, otherwise premiums would be unaffordable. And i doubt the CEO is making individual policy level coverage decisions. He was a young guy with a family. Nobody here knew him, he could have been a good guy for all we know. But even if he was a jerk, that doesn't mean he deserved to be brutally murdered. I really can't believe how many people are happy someone was killed just because they happened to lead an insurance company. Its disgusting where we've come as a society
Oh, will you get off your high horse? The sanctimony is unattractive.
Look man, the health insurance business is one of the most corrupt businesses in America -- a country where 80% of business spaces are horribly corrupt to begin with. This CEO was undoubtedly committing fraud, money laundering, Ponzi sh!t, insider trading, embezzlement and other major felonies, or he would never have got to the position he was in. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Demanding that we shed a tear for the perpetrators of massive felony fraud and theft is a bit much to stomach on a Saturday morning.
I'm not a huge fan of insurance companies. But to celebrate the murder of someone just because they happen to head a company you don't like is insane. Insurance contracts of alm types (medical, home, auto, etc.) All have exclusionary language. They can't cover everything, otherwise premiums would be unaffordable. And i doubt the CEO is making individual policy level coverage decisions. He was a young guy with a family. Nobody here knew him, he could have been a good guy for all we know. But even if he was a jerk, that doesn't mean he deserved to be brutally murdered. I really can't believe how many people are happy someone was killed just because they happened to lead an insurance company. Its disgusting where we've come as a society
Oh, will you get off your high horse? The sanctimony is unattractive.
Look man, the health insurance business is one of the most corrupt businesses in America -- a country where 80% of business spaces are horribly corrupt to begin with. This CEO was undoubtedly committing fraud, money laundering, Ponzi sh!t, insider trading, embezzlement and other major felonies, or he would never have got to the position he was in. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Demanding that we shed a tear for the perpetrators of massive felony fraud and theft is a bit much to stomach on a Saturday morning.
Expect a PR onslaught from the health insurance industry. We will hear testimonials from people covered in full when hit with large unexpected medical expenses. The crisis management flacks are working on it at this moment.
UHC was at a less than 10% denial rate. This clown changed that to 32% to earn himself millions.
I find most revolting about this, is the incredible money being spent to find this one person. Killings happen all the time, resources like this are never expended.
Then there is the reward. UHC hasn't put any money into the reward pot. Why? It is likely that the new CEO and the board won't approve spending money on a reward.
Brian Robert Thompson (July 10, 1974 – December 4, 2024) was an American businessman. He was the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, the insurance arm of UnitedHealth Group, from April 2021 until his killing in December 2024. Education...
Expect a PR onslaught from the health insurance industry. We will hear testimonials from people covered in full when hit with large unexpected medical expenses.
Paid actors, and family members of health insurance management.
UHC was at a less than 10% denial rate. This clown changed that to 32% to earn himself millions.
I find most revolting about this, is the incredible money being spent to find this one person. Killings happen all the time, resources like this are never expended.
Then there is the reward. UHC hasn't put any money into the reward pot. Why? It is likely that the new CEO and the board won't approve spending money on a reward.
A chart should have posted, not the wiki page. Let me try again.
UHC was at a less than 10% denial rate. This clown changed that to 32% to earn himself millions.
I find most revolting about this, is the incredible money being spent to find this one person. Killings happen all the time, resources like this are never expended.
Then there is the reward. UHC hasn't put any money into the reward pot. Why? It is likely that the new CEO and the board won't approve spending money on a reward.
I'm sure there are a dozen or so executives with crocodile tears now jockeying behind the scenes to replace him. I don't work in insurance, but the stomach churning BS I see from all levels of management trying to advance their careers is virtually limitless. This is the issue with the "everyone gets a trophy" generations, we have hordes of morally dubious people who refuse to do the right thing if it means they won't win.
I find most revolting about this, is the incredible money being spent to find this one person. Killings happen all the time, resources like this are never expended.
I find most revolting about this, is the incredible money being spent to find this one person. Killings happen all the time, resources like this are never expended.
Pardon?
Will Trump pardon the killer or not. Good question. Was he a good Trump donor on autopay?
They will catch the guy it seems. I doubt it wiil be a violent standoff? Martyrdom? Suicide? Surrender and go to prison with a defiant attidude? False suicide? Morbid, I know, but how this is going to play out is interesting. I am sure plenty want to make an example of him in visceral ways, especially to counter the demonstration by multitudes of appreciation for what he did or lack of empathy for Thompson.
I'm not a huge fan of insurance companies. But to celebrate the murder of someone just because they happen to head a company you don't like is insane. Insurance contracts of alm types (medical, home, auto, etc.) All have exclusionary language. They can't cover everything, otherwise premiums would be unaffordable. And i doubt the CEO is making individual policy level coverage decisions. He was a young guy with a family. Nobody here knew him, he could have been a good guy for all we know. But even if he was a jerk, that doesn't mean he deserved to be brutally murdered. I really can't believe how many people are happy someone was killed just because they happened to lead an insurance company. Its disgusting where we've come as a society
Oh, will you get off your high horse? The sanctimony is unattractive.
Look man, the health insurance business is one of the most corrupt businesses in America -- a country where 80% of business spaces are horribly corrupt to begin with. This CEO was undoubtedly committing fraud, money laundering, Ponzi sh!t, insider trading, embezzlement and other major felonies, or he would never have got to the position he was in. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Demanding that we shed a tear for the perpetrators of massive felony fraud and theft is a bit much to stomach on a Saturday morning.
I don't think anyone should shed tears. But celebrating, and posting pictures of other execs to be next as some social media users have done, is quite different then shedding a tear. And I don't think questioning the blind murder of someone because you THINK (not know) they may have "undoubtedly committed fraud" is really being on a high horse. Its sets a very dangerous precedent. The Pelosi's and thousands of others undoubtedly commit insider training, should they suffer the same fate?
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