2:11:53 - not possible w/o drugs, supershoes?

It is what it is wrote:

It’s her 3rd. First one was 2:34 while “injured”

ArmstrongGrinds wrote:

Hard days work for Armstronglivs in this thread. The grind never stops.

1, 2, many wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The men's world record in '64 for the mile was 3:54. 1:44 for the 800. The women's marathon record is now faster than the men's marathon record of that era. That is a massive and exponential increase in female endurance. It can only be achieved by drugs - training and shoes alone won't do it.

Would like to hear more about this exponential increase from the the man who always gets big problems when counting above two.

1, 2, many wrote:

ArmstrongGrinds wrote:

Hard days work for Armstronglivs in this thread. The grind never stops.

Could be a record day for him. I think today he easily betters his alltime record of 52 posts on a single day. Was it over 60? At the age of 75, he can't be clean.

kellen_olmstead wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

She is faster than your Ethiopian hero of the '60's, Abebe Bikila, when he set a world record at the Tokyo Olympics. Let that sink in. He was the MEN'S world record-holder and now he isn't as fast as a woman novice. Running has to be the dirtiest sport on the planet now.

Yeah because I'm sure knowledge of training, diet, recovery and shoe technology is still at the same level it was in the 60's...

fact lover wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

You know nothing about doping and what it has done to the sport beyond what talent and training can achieve.

Neither do you. Your """"knowledge""""" consists of screeching "this time is impossible to achieve without drugs because.... because it JUST IS OKAY??!?" ad nauseam. You know f*ck all about chemistry, biology, training etc.

kgx wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The men's world record in '64 for the mile was 3:54. 1:44 for the 800. The women's marathon record is now faster than the men's marathon record of that era. That is a massive and exponential increase in female endurance. It can only be achieved by drugs - training and shoes alone won't do it.

It's not 1964 anymore, gramps. You don't get to keep women in the house anymore.

fact lover wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

The most glaring fact is that she is faster than one of the greatest male marathon runners in history.

He is a 2:12 guy. He just happened to run at a time when running wasn't as popular and thus the amount of talent in the sport was lower. Just like Bannister isn't "one of the greats", he was just a pioneer. When the sport blew up we found a million kids more talented than him.

trackfangirl wrote:

The lestrun joggers wiping their tears away, go ahead and vent people, or should I say Americans, you still have Basketball, well no Europeans are taking over that. OK you still have golf :)

It's funny watching people on this thread go wild. 100% Americans here I'm sure. Jealousy from the joggers. As soon as she accomplished this unprecedented feat I couldn't wait to see the sweat dripping hatred here. Lets face it in the next 10 years women will run a 2:10 marathon, 1/2 marathon in close to 1 hour, a 5k in 13min range, run a 10k in 28 min range and come close to the 4 minute mile and there is nothing the joggers of Letsrun can do about it. But it will be funny over that time watching the reactions here :)

fact lover wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Another clueless fan. Doping is throughout the sport and has been so for years. It is in the men's events as well as the women's events. All times have improved through the use of doping, over and above what talent, training and technique can account for. This latest ridiculous performance in the women's marathon is not an exception; it simply draws attention to the sheet pervasiveness of doping in the sport and how it is transforming what can be achieved.

Okay, so no facts. Got it. Thank you for admitting that you have nothing but conjectures here.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

dsdxfsdf wrote:

You need to adjust the 6:09 by a percentage given the longer running time, poor logic.

Fair enough.

Men’s marathon WR is 57:31(1.053) x 2

New women’s WR is 62:52(1.049) x 2

Old women’s WR is 62:52(1.066) x 2

A women’s marathon with the same percentage of the half WR as the men would be 62:52(1.053) x 2 = 2:12:23

A men’s marathon with the same percentage of the half WR as the women would now be 57:31(1.049) x 2 = 2:00:41

Meaningless wrote:

Did you guys read the LRC article? Gault says: "Unless Assefa is using some new superdrug, it’s hard to explain a run like this with PEDs alone. We’re not aware of any drug that can make you more than two minutes faster than anyone else in history."