Americans are through School That Evil Triumps when good Men Do Nothing (Edmund Burke) That is why Americans ALWAYS Intervene when they see something bad happening, There is One Exception to this Rule, The Kitty Genovese Case Where no one intervened to help her, The Reason this case is Famous was because there were people there and they did not help which was a Major shock as no one could understand why this happened, Americans not helping seemed Impossible, fortunately this has happened only once, The Marine was just doing what he was taught since first grade and All Americans are EXPECTED to do, nothing racial about it. The people who are siding with the criminal are clearly not American and should be deported for not embracing American Values
Siding with the criminal? Which party in this case is the criminal? Perhaps a grand jury will bring up charges and we'll find out.
Who is the criminal?
I am going to go with the guy who murdered the other guy
don't jail the guy, don't commit him... then what? every fraud "liberal" in the DeBlasio and Adams administration and every sh*tlib in city council is complicit in this guy's fate.
and you know what they'd say if another crazy person killed him, or threw him on the tracks? NOTHING.
Anne Mitcheltree, who was attacked by Jordan Neely in 2021, ripped the city for not forcing the homeless man to get the mental health treatment he clearly needed.
Specifically, the guy taking the video repeatedly provoked Neely, making a couple of Michael Jackson pedophile jokes to Neely while he was in his Michael Jackson costume and insulting him in other ways. That doesn't justify Neely attacking him, but "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". There was no need to do that.
“Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” Hm, kinda like threatening people on a subway no?
Yes, like that. Did you think I was defending Neely's actions?
don't jail the guy, don't commit him... then what? every fraud "liberal" in the DeBlasio and Adams administration and every sh*tlib in city council is complicit in this guy's fate.
and you know what they'd say if another crazy person killed him, or threw him on the tracks? NOTHING.
It wasn't a "crazy" or mentally ill person that killed him. Don't conflate to deviate.
If someone is held in such a position for that length of time how can, given someone with a military background, it not be known that such a position for that time is deadly ? What exactly was he doing ? What was his intent and aim ? Was it just to tame his fear and insecurities ? It's obvious he did not know what he was doing. There was no "startegy". Just hold him and to tame my fear and anxiety, just hold him to control my fear and feeling of being threatened because I'm not enough to know what to do and really deal with the situation. Just hold him to have control, and there will never be a limit to that need.
don't jail the guy, don't commit him... then what? every fraud "liberal" in the DeBlasio and Adams administration and every sh*tlib in city council is complicit in this guy's fate.
and you know what they'd say if another crazy person killed him, or threw him on the tracks? NOTHING.
It wasn't a "crazy" or mentally ill person that killed him. Don't conflate to deviate.
If someone is held in such a position for that length of time how can, given someone with a military background, it not be known that such a position for that time is deadly ? What exactly was he doing ? What was his intent and aim ? Was it just to tame his fear and insecurities ? It's obvious he did not know what he was doing. There was no "startegy". Just hold him and to tame my fear and anxiety, just hold him to control my fear and feeling of being threatened because I'm not enough to know what to do and really deal with the situation. Just hold him to have control, and there will never be a limit to that need.
YOU read the article and confront reality. YOU are the one who practiced catch & release, catch & release, catch & release with this guy because... uh... why? It made you feel good? What do you tell the woman above? Sorry, he's crazy, uh, not crazy... well, he is a handful! #CarceralReform
This guy was a walking time bomb who already went off and nobody gaf-- just like if he'd been died in any other way except as he did you'd almost certainly ignore it.
Ex-Marine could face accidental manslaughter charges-- fine.
Wait until the defense or others bring up ALL of Neely's past records and you see how much the big "liberals" cared.
Anne Mitcheltree, who was attacked by Jordan Neely in 2021, ripped the city for not forcing the homeless man to get the mental health treatment he clearly needed.
ThriveNYC, the mental health scheme fronted by Chirlane McCray, was given a budget of $850m to improve mental health care in the city, but has failed to track what the money was spent on.
don't jail the guy, don't commit him... then what? every fraud "liberal" in the DeBlasio and Adams administration and every sh*tlib in city council is complicit in this guy's fate.
and you know what they'd say if another crazy person killed him, or threw him on the tracks? NOTHING.
It wasn't a "crazy" or mentally ill person that killed him. Don't conflate to deviate.
If someone is held in such a position for that length of time how can, given someone with a military background, it not be known that such a position for that time is deadly ? What exactly was he doing ? What was his intent and aim ? Was it just to tame his fear and insecurities ? It's obvious he did not know what he was doing. There was no "startegy". Just hold him and to tame my fear and anxiety, just hold him to control my fear and feeling of being threatened because I'm not enough to know what to do and really deal with the situation. Just hold him to have control, and there will never be a limit to that need.
It wasn't a "crazy" or mentally ill person that killed him. Don't conflate to deviate.
That was entirely the point. If it was a "crazy" or even just a "brown" person killing someone on the subway this wouldn't even be a story because leftists aren't instructed to pretend to care about death unless the death can exploited for political purposes.
When you get choked you don't die you pass out first. When the idiot quit moving the choke was released. Dying in that way is exceedingly rare.
Specifically, the guy taking the video repeatedly provoked Neely, making a couple of Michael Jackson pedophile jokes to Neely while he was in his Michael Jackson costume and insulting him in other ways. That doesn't justify Neely attacking him, but "play stupid games, win stupid prizes". There was no need to do that.
“Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” Hm, kinda like threatening people on a subway no?
Amen. In normal and healthy society, thieves and violent criminals should expect their victims to kill them if they are caught
Nope. Man is a hero. Cleaning up the subway is a necessary task.
I'll note that for when someone asks me for change or for food more than once. Maybe I'll make the unilateral decision to kill someone who bumps into me in a way I don't like. Maybe off someone for making my commute "unpleasant" for whatever I decide is unpleasant. I'll make assumptions of criminal history too in order to justify killing a person. I hope I get hailed a hero on the internet too.
But how will you respond if someone asks you for change or food AND (as is alleged of Jordan Neely) shouts that he doesn't mind if he goes to prison for life? Are you just going to ignore that threat - an implicit threat of a capital crime?
I live near Columbia University. Today I rode and an express train (a 3 I think but possibly a 2) from 96th Street downtown to Chambers Street in Manhattan. A subway performer started his acrobat routine in my subway car, hanging and flipping from the overhead "straphanger" bars, just about kicking an elderly woman in the face, then flipping his baseball style cap back and forth between his right heel and his head. He tried high-fiving several people, but some refused while one applauded. People don't like flinching due to some panhandler performing his show in such close confines. One passenger changed seats to distance herself from the guy. I've not seen such hostility to such a subway performer before, and I, anyway, connected it to the Jordan Neely news. People are perhaps starting to push back more.
“People were uNcOmFoRtabLe”… the guy had over 40 arrests and punched a 67 year old woman in the face. At what point is a human being allowed to be scared for their life? This guy has a well documented track record of committing crimes.
The amount of physical crime on the NYC subways in the past few years is outrageous. Bet dollars to donuts you’ve never even rode a NYC subway in your life. Because if you had, especially recently, you wouldn’t be spewing this uncomfortable nonsense. You would know the NYC subway crime statistics and like a reasonable person you would deduce the fact that not everyone riding the subway is just uncomfortable. Unless in your world uncomfortable means maimed or dead.
Let me guess, you live in Scarsdale and ride the subways once a year to go to see the ballet.
You weren't clear, did Jordan punch a 67 year old woman in the face on the subway when he was murdered? no? okay.
Like I said, I've lived in New York City many years, and there were a lot of things that made me uncomfortable. At what point is a human being allowed to be scared for their life? Let me ask you, at what point in the fifteen minutes he was on the ground, humiliated and being strangled to death, do you think Jordan Neely became scared for his life?
Thinking out loud now...
I wonder when Carol Bryant was scared for her life...
I wonder when George Zimmerman was scared for his life...
I wonder if Derek Chauvin was scared for his life...
I wonder when Amy Cooper became scared for her life...
Good old George was scared for his life after he initiated the confrontation...
It wasn't a "crazy" or mentally ill person that killed him. Don't conflate to deviate.
If someone is held in such a position for that length of time how can, given someone with a military background, it not be known that such a position for that time is deadly ? What exactly was he doing ? What was his intent and aim ? Was it just to tame his fear and insecurities ? It's obvious he did not know what he was doing. There was no "startegy". Just hold him and to tame my fear and anxiety, just hold him to control my fear and feeling of being threatened because I'm not enough to know what to do and really deal with the situation. Just hold him to have control, and there will never be a limit to that need.
It wasn't a "crazy" or mentally ill person that killed him. Don't conflate to deviate.
That was entirely the point. If it was a "crazy" or even just a "brown" person killing someone on the subway this wouldn't even be a story because leftists aren't instructed to pretend to care about death unless the death can exploited for political purposes.
When you get choked you don't die you pass out first. When the idiot quit moving the choke was released. Dying in that way is exceedingly rare.
What is a "brown" person ?
Anyway, you're missing the point.
A case where a mental illness diagnosis is the determining factor is very different to one where it is not. Where the person is compos mentis, and culpable and accountable for their actions, critical attention is warranted.
can you define "disturbing society"? Witnesses said this man loudly yelled about not having food or water and expressed wanting to hurt...HIMSELF. he did not personally threaten anyone else. He was not armed.
Shouting that you don't mind if you go to jail for life, as is alleged of Neely, is an implicit threat of a capital crime.
Clueless people like you tend to have worse outcomes at the hands of criminals.