If it is true that Flynn flipped to the FBI, the case is blown wide open - the only reason the FBI will play this game is if they need a little help convicting a bigger target.
And really the only bigger target is Donald J Trump.
But we don't know that Flynn flipped - that's just rumor.
byvwl wrote:
exthrower wrote:Too dumb to realize how dumb they are...
Pot meet kettle.
Poor Trumpers. Actually, in due time, you'll be Pencers.
Flynn has flipped. Russiagate is going to be big, very big. Bigly.
Nope, somewhat ironically given this weeks US political events they'll be Ryan-ers since Pence will resign in exchange for testimony and no jail time. By order of succession it'll POTUS Paul Ryan and VEEP Orin Hatch in 2018.
remember when grassley and feinstein walked out of a meeting and looked like they had seen death itself?
news that Flynn had made a deal with the FBI would be exactly the kind of news that would make them look like that.
Ryan / Hatch 2018? wrote:
byvwl wrote:Pot meet kettle.
Poor Trumpers. Actually, in due time, you'll be Pencers.
Flynn has flipped. Russiagate is going to be big, very big. Bigly.
Nope, somewhat ironically given this weeks US political events they'll be Ryan-ers since Pence will resign in exchange for testimony and no jail time. By order of succession it'll POTUS Paul Ryan and VEEP Orin Hatch in 2018.
Really? Is that actually true? If so that's crazy! Makes you wonder if good ol'Mitt didn't wear a wire to that dinner with the Donald after Election Day? I can hear him now while he's getting patted down by the secret service, "That's not a wire, it's just my magic underwear." Get Trump to spill the beans on tape, and the next thing you know you have a Mormon a breath away from the POTUS. Nice work Mitt!
#MAGA
#Unpresidented
#MagicUnderwearFTW!
eric a blair wrote:
remember when grassley and feinstein walked out of a meeting and looked like they had seen death itself?
news that Flynn had made a deal with the FBI would be exactly the kind of news that would make them look like that.
I wondered where this "Flynn has flipped" talk came from and I think I found it. It's good analysis, but it's still long on speculation. No matter, it's interesting reading.
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/i-think-michael-flynn-has-already-cut-a-deal-with-the-fbi-against-donald-trump/2052/Three questions:
1. Why is Trump blaming the democrats for his failure to even get a vote on the health care bill when repubs own the house, senate and the presidency?
2. He pulled the bill presumably because they were nowhere close to getting the necessary votes and he wanted to save face by being able to lie afterwards and say they were just a few votes short. How many repubs were actually going to vote against the bill? 10%? 15%? 25%?
3. If he can't deliver on a major pledge of his campaign right out of the gate with repubs in control all around, can he realistically get anything of consequence done during his tenure?
toomuchwinning wrote:
3. If he can't deliver on a major pledge of his campaign right out of the gate with repubs in control all around, can he realistically get anything of consequence done during his tenure?
He could lift most of the sanctions on Russia.
this is the current maxo-conspiracy theory. The idea is that a portion of Rosneft was sold, and given to Trump and trumpers if he lifted russia sanctions. And Russia would help him win the election.
It's not convincing yet, but worth knowing as stories start to speculate on what evidence Flynn could give the FBI.
In this case, Flynn could tell the FBI what exactly went on in those meetings at the mayflower hotel.
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toomuchwinning wrote:
Three questions:
1. Why is Trump blaming the democrats for his failure to even get a vote on the health care bill when repubs own the house, senate and the presidency?
2. He pulled the bill presumably because they were nowhere close to getting the necessary votes and he wanted to save face by being able to lie afterwards and say they were just a few votes short. How many repubs were actually going to vote against the bill? 10%? 15%? 25%?
3. If he can't deliver on a major pledge of his campaign right out of the gate with repubs in control all around, can he realistically get anything of consequence done during his tenure?
I'll assume the 'blame' question is rhetorical.
it looked like 30+ repubs would vote no. But it was deteriorating - the moderate chair of some committee turned no...suggesting a tidal wave of nos was coming, from moderates.
can he get anything done? Sure. Clinton's presidency started in a mess and straightened up.
but clinton was the most gifted politician of his time - trump is...not.
Dude this guy has lied to you constantly. Are you really ok with that.His presidency has been a debacle.
exthrower wrote:
Dude..He's been in office 2 months.....He has 8 years to fix things....His presidency will be a success with just the supreme court judges alone...
exthrower wrote:
Dude..He's been in office 2 months.....He has 4 years to fix things....His presidency will be a success with just the supreme court judges alone...
Fixed that for ya. Yes I know the last 3 presidents all served 2 terms, but you bet yr ass the Don will have a short leash even from his own party (he will have primary challengers in 2020, you can be assured of that) if he can't figure things out.
Ryan / Hatch 2018? wrote:
Nope, somewhat ironically given this weeks US political events they'll be Ryan-ers since Pence will resign in exchange for testimony and no jail time. By order of succession it'll POTUS Paul Ryan and VEEP Orin Hatch in 2018.
Nope. Pence has been completely out of the loop since the beginning. He is decidely NOT one of the Bannon (oh, I mean Trump) insiders.
Remember when Flynn had to drop out? It was because he lied to Pence - everyone else knew the whole story but Pence was completely out of the loop.
Pence will be POTUS IF Trump goes down.
exthrower wrote:
Dude..He's been in office 2 months.....He has 8 years to fix things....His presidency will be a success with just the supreme court judges alone...
that's a low bar
so far the only promise he's kept is to withdraw from TPP. And in doing so, we all understand he made a huge gift to China.We just ceded the Pac Rim to China's influence. Yay us.
So not much of anything. Pretty much total failure.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/tracking-trumps-promises/ok , and Gorsuch. I'll give him credit for that as a promise kept.
toomuchwinning wrote:
Three questions:
1. Why is Trump blaming the democrats for his failure to even get a vote on the health care bill when repubs own the house, senate and the presidency?
2. He pulled the bill presumably because they were nowhere close to getting the necessary votes and he wanted to save face by being able to lie afterwards and say they were just a few votes short. How many repubs were actually going to vote against the bill? 10%? 15%? 25%?
3. If he can't deliver on a major pledge of his campaign right out of the gate with repubs in control all around, can he realistically get anything of consequence done during his tenure?
Ummm...because he ALWAYS blames someone else for his own failures? And because he's a Republican POTUS?
Just a wild guess.
eric a blair wrote:
exthrower wrote:Dude..He's been in office 2 months.....He has 8 years to fix things....His presidency will be a success with just the supreme court judges alone...
that's a low bar
so far the only promise he's kept is to withdraw from TPP. And in doing so, we all understand he made a huge gift to China.We just ceded the Pac Rim to China's influence. Yay us.
So not much of anything. Pretty much total failure.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/tracking-trumps-promises/
What people continuously fail to understand and is true no matter who says otherwise is that a President has deminiahing political capital throughout the term. They have the most power to get something done in the first year, and usually it's one major issue they focus on. This is likely why this was a lightning bill. Ryan sold it to Trump who agreed on the terms that it be done quickly in case it failed it wouldn't have used too much ammo.
It's safe to say his big thing will be corporate tax reform. This should be easy since even the Freedom Caucus wants lower taxes for the rich. However, they will need some democratic backing unlike with Trumpcare, which means we will see an even bigger $hit show.
No Purrz wrote:Pence will be POTUS IF Trump goes down.
Pence is FAR crazier and could actually get some awful stuff done. Look at the economic impacts of his leadership in Indiana.
Let the volatile, borderline obese child and his conspiracy theorists be ineffective for four years.
The thing about deals is you have to be prepared to walk. Trump did a great job with this health care bill.
