DJT indicted on four counts related to January 6

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

1. Down 50% in the last 6 months and still higher than ever. No rational person would argue that Biden has been anything but a disaster on the border.

2. Anyone who thinks a child can be transgender is a child abuser.

3. Crime has been through the roof. You can use statistics to lie about anything. When they tell you that crime is down in 2023 they're conveniently not mentioning that is was way up before it came down a little and is still well above where it was before Biden took office. Major retailers aren't abandoning cities because crime is too low.

4. The Afghan withdrawal isn't a feather in your cap it was a disgrace. And the Ukraine was triggered by the west and is being prolonged by the west for the sole purpose of making money. Democrats and Republicans voted for all the wars. Trump was loathed by the neo-cons for opposing permanent war and nation building for profit. Biden is right back on board the forever war gravy train.

5. Identity politics and the absurd trans issues are promoted by Democrats.

6. The Trump tax cuts expire in 2024 and no Democrat would renew them. Democrats believe in punishing the rich which leads to higher prices for everyone.

7. Biden is as corrupt as the day is long. So was Obama.

interim wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

1. Down 50% in the last 6 months and still higher than ever. No rational person would argue that Biden has been anything but a disaster on the border.

2. Anyone who thinks a child can be transgender is a child abuser.

3. Crime has been through the roof. You can use statistics to lie about anything. When they tell you that crime is down in 2023 they're conveniently not mentioning that is was way up before it came down a little and is still well above where it was before Biden took office. Major retailers aren't abandoning cities because crime is too low.

4. The Afghan withdrawal isn't a feather in your cap it was a disgrace. And the Ukraine was triggered by the west and is being prolonged by the west for the sole purpose of making money. Democrats and Republicans voted for all the wars. Trump was loathed by the neo-cons for opposing permanent war and nation building for profit. Biden is right back on board the forever war gravy train.

5. Identity politics and the absurd trans issues are promoted by Democrats.

6. The Trump tax cuts expire in 2024 and no Democrat would renew them. Democrats believe in punishing the rich which leads to higher prices for everyone.

7. Biden is as corrupt as the day is long. So was Obama.

1) crime began rising in early 2020 during the TRUMP administration, as a result of the pandemic economy tanking. There has historically always been a correlation between rising crime rates and recessions. The fact that it's coming down is not only a testament to Biden's success in that area, but the economy too (which nearly every economist said was headed for a deep recession this year, and now nobody thinks that as inflation comes down while the unemployment rate is at historical lows).

2) Anyone who thinks a child can't be transgender has simply never met one. Just like cis-gender, straight, gay people, this is a hard-wired thing. It's not something that can be controlled (or "prayed away"), and is not a negative characteristic of a person any more than their skin color is. It just simply is what it is, and should be legally protected as such.

3) It's like you wrote down this point back in 2022 or something. As said, the pandemic caused the economy to crater and crime to rise during the TRUMP administration. It peaked, along with the economic nadir, in 2021, and now it's coming back down. Heading in the right direction is still heading in the right direction, even if it's not back to where we were in 2019.

4) The Afghan war was a disgrace, full-stop, started by an ignorant, war-mongering president who barely had enough intelligence to tie his own shoelaces. There is never an honorable way to end a dishonorable war (see: Vietnam). But it had to be ended. Biden did it.

5) Yes, you're right.... civil rights issues are promoted by Democrats. Only Republicans want to take civil rights AWAY from American citizens. Who wants to be associated with a political party whose primary goals is to take things AWAY from its citizens?

6) the tax cuts favored the wealthy and corporations. They did nothing to grow the economy. GDP was 2.4% the year before the cuts, and 2.4% after. Trickle-down economics has been proven to be a fraud every time (Reagan, Bush II are two other examples). When the wealthy do well, they keep the money to themselves, period. Also, there is historically ZERO causation between increased taxes on the wealthy and rising prices. That's just a conservative fantasy talking point that sounds good, but has no basis in actual fact.

7) Biden is corrupt? Yeah, you guys have been saying that for 3 years, and you still haven't produced any evidence to prove it, which means it either ain't there, or your side is just mindblowingly incompetent (or both). On the other hand, we have treasure troves of evidence against your guy (most of which is regularly supplied by Tr*mp himself whenever he opens his buffoon mouth). So yeah, that's MAJOR projection on your part.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

interim wrote:

1) crime began rising in early 2020 during the TRUMP administration, as a result of the pandemic economy tanking. There has historically always been a correlation between rising crime rates and recessions. The fact that it's coming down is not only a testament to Biden's success in that area, but the economy too (which nearly every economist said was headed for a deep recession this year, and now nobody thinks that as inflation comes down while the unemployment rate is at historical lows).

2) Anyone who thinks a child can't be transgender has simply never met one. Just like cis-gender, straight, gay people, this is a hard-wired thing. It's not something that can be controlled (or "prayed away"), and is not a negative characteristic of a person any more than their skin color is. It just simply is what it is, and should be legally protected as such.

3) It's like you wrote down this point back in 2022 or something. As said, the pandemic caused the economy to crater and crime to rise during the TRUMP administration. It peaked, along with the economic nadir, in 2021, and now it's coming back down. Heading in the right direction is still heading in the right direction, even if it's not back to where we were in 2019.

4) The Afghan war was a disgrace, full-stop, started by an ignorant, war-mongering president who barely had enough intelligence to tie his own shoelaces. There is never an honorable way to end a dishonorable war (see: Vietnam). But it had to be ended. Biden did it.

5) Yes, you're right.... civil rights issues are promoted by Democrats. Only Republicans want to take civil rights AWAY from American citizens. Who wants to be associated with a political party whose primary goals is to take things AWAY from its citizens?

6) the tax cuts favored the wealthy and corporations. They did nothing to grow the economy. GDP was 2.4% the year before the cuts, and 2.4% after. Trickle-down economics has been proven to be a fraud every time (Reagan, Bush II are two other examples). When the wealthy do well, they keep the money to themselves, period. Also, there is historically ZERO causation between increased taxes on the wealthy and rising prices. That's just a conservative fantasy talking point that sounds good, but has no basis in actual fact.

7) Biden is corrupt? Yeah, you guys have been saying that for 3 years, and you still haven't produced any evidence to prove it, which means it either ain't there, or your side is just mindblowingly incompetent (or both). On the other hand, we have treasure troves of evidence against your guy (most of which is regularly supplied by Tr*mp himself whenever he opens his buffoon mouth). So yeah, that's MAJOR projection on your part.

1. It is bat sh*t crazy to try to claim Biden has been good on crime.

2. Hormone blockers are child abuse. Permanently damaging and sterilizing children who are pre-pubescent is disgusting. The vast majority of Americans oppose the Democrat's obsession with other people's children. If you want to destroy your own kid's life knock yourself out. Leave other people's kids alone.

3. It's like you live in a bubble and have no idea Democrats spent all of 2020 demanding we defund the police. Crime in blue cities which goes unprosecuted by blue DA's wasn't Trump's fault in 2020 and sure as hell wasn't in 2021, 2022, and 2023.

4. Al Qaeda was based in Afghanistan. The war was completely justified. Only a leftist would declare that opposing Al Qaeda and the Taliban was dishonorable.

5. What rights are being taken away?

6. Every tax bracket was reduced. Only leftists are shocked that people who pay 90% of the taxes benefit more when taxes are reduced. It is nonsensical to claim that raising taxes on corporations doesn't lead to higher prices. You are living in a fantasy world.

7. There's plenty of evidence. You need to look outside of your bubble.