I demand LRC posters be exposed and we all learn all their dark secrets.
We don't need a million thread on this topic. We like one thread per topic. We merged several others into this thread including one called "Alex Pretti was a deranged lunatic." and one called "New York Times reports that Pretti attacked ICE cars 11 days before his death" and one called "LeBron James: Why hasn't he commented on the Alex Pretti killing?"
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I’ll take Harambe agreeing to his selective outrage over immigration policies as conceding the argument.
I win.
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pupil3142 wrote:
No Dairy With It wrote:
It was thoroughly debunked, point by point. Pay attention.
You just lazily said “nuh uh” bro. That’s an admission of defeat
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Make Peace wrote:
I’ll take Harambe agreeing to his selective outrage over immigration policies as conceding the argument.
I win.
You’ve provided no evidence that Obamas immigration efforts remotely approached the scale of Trumps violations. At all. 2300 infringements in 7 months at least.
“it’s ok to care more about worse things” is an argument most would agree with. Not you, apparently.
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exrunnerboy wrote:
pupilpie wrote:
is harambe two different people, or schizophrenic?
yesterday he published maxwell exonerating trump and some sort of anti trump gotcha that i still havent worked out and now, he doubles down on his 2300 claim by posting an article which goes into us citizens being detained in some detail and yet only provides 2 incorrect cases out of 400 000 presumably correct cases. a staggeringly low rate.
further, the article explains that these us citizens were not arrested by ICE, they were already in jail, and ice merely asked for them to be detained, presumably whilst working the case, as is their right.
and then there is this quote from the article;
In no recent cases was an American placed in deportation.so harambe doesnt answer our questions and just shouts epstein files, which seem to be full of democrats, but he does argue with himself, quite effectively it appears.
so i can continue my policy of not responding to him since he will in all probability contradict himself at some point.
He's a troll.
A troll is someone you can’t prove wrong :)
When you stop trying and throw up your hands, I win
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pupilpie wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Way less than 2300. I was right
is harambe two different people, or schizophrenic?
yesterday he published maxwell exonerating trump and some sort of anti trump gotcha that i still havent worked out and now, he doubles down on his 2300 claim by posting an article which goes into us citizens being detained in some detail and yet only provides 2 incorrect cases out of 400 000 presumably correct cases. a staggeringly low rate.
further, the article explains that these us citizens were not arrested by ICE, they were already in jail, and ice merely asked for them to be detained, presumably whilst working the case, as is their right.
and then there is this quote from the article;
In no recent cases was an American placed in deportation.so harambe doesnt answer our questions and just shouts epstein files, which seem to be full of democrats, but he does argue with himself, quite effectively it appears.
so i can continue my policy of not responding to him since he will in all probability contradict himself at some point.
1) you keep defending the guy who was best friends with the Teen Raper for 30 years. This is getting a bit weird.
2) “no Americans were deported!!!” Is not exactly the bar we should hold our Feds to. Constitutional violations, especially by masked agents.
There are clear procedures ICE needs to follow to not violate someone’s rights when detaining and deporting them. You can’t just go “they’re illegal!!” and then you can do whatever you want.
Unfortunately ICE has done this 2000+ times in 7 months. A horrible infringement of the 4th amendment and 5th amendment.
You just say “but Obama” despite Obama deporting just as many people with far, less issues. You’re proving my point.
You guys aren’t libertarians if you can’t say infringing the constitution is bad. (And the constitution doesn’t say “you have a right not to be deported but can be detained however the government wants”)
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Harambe wrote:
1) you keep defending the guy who was best friends with the Teen Raper for 30 years. This is getting a bit weird.
2) “no Americans were deported!!!” Is not exactly the bar we should hold our Feds to. Constitutional violations, especially by masked agents.
There are clear procedures ICE needs to follow to not violate someone’s rights when detaining and deporting them. You can’t just go “they’re illegal!!” and then you can do whatever you want.
Unfortunately ICE has done this 2000+ times in 7 months. A horrible infringement of the 4th amendment and 5th amendment.
You just say “but Obama” despite Obama deporting just as many people with far, less issues. You’re proving my point.
You guys aren’t libertarians if you can’t say infringing the constitution is bad. (And the constitution doesn’t say “you have a right not to be deported but can be detained however the government wants”)
What parts of the constitution do you imagine have been infringed?
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How come Dems weren't protesting Obama's deportations?
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nkoreatroll wrote:
How come Dems weren't protesting Obama's deportations?
If you were paying attention at the time, you'd know a lot of them were. Part of the reason for the rise of the leftwing of the Democratic party is because of the failure of the centrist wing, such as under Obama.
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Harambe wrote:
1) you keep defending the guy who was best friends with the Teen Raper for 30 years. This is getting a bit weird.
I don't defend Bill Clinton.
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hohoho wrote:
nkoreatroll wrote:
How come Dems weren't protesting Obama's deportations?
If you were paying attention at the time, you'd know a lot of them were. Part of the reason for the rise of the leftwing of the Democratic party is because of the failure of the centrist wing, such as under Obama.
Anyone who thinks Obama was a centrist has lost touch with reality.
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nkoreatroll wrote:
How come Dems weren't protesting Obama's deportations?
This thread is 106 pages.
Im going to assume it has already been explained that Dems don’t oppose deportations. They oppose Stephen Millers psycho, gestapo terrorization of cities and states that didn’t vote for Trump.Trump already gave away the game. He said he would leave Minneapolis if he could get his grimy hands on the states private voting records.
Did Obama ask for those?
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Reasonable suspicion to detain
Searches without warrants
5th amendment due process
The courts have been clear what this means. Delays and process violations when detained are constitutional violations.
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Toe Jam wrote:
nkoreatroll wrote:
How come Dems weren't protesting Obama's deportations?
This thread is 106 pages.
Im going to assume it has already been explained that Dems don’t oppose deportations. They oppose Stephen MillerSo, they are anti-Semitic?
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Harambe wrote:
Reasonable suspicion to detain
Searches without warrants
5th amendment due process
The courts have been clear what this means. Delays and process violations when detained are constitutional violations.
If someone is an illegal alien, that is reasonable suspicion to detain.
ICE has administrative warrants.
The due process for illegal aliens is deportation.
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nkoreatroll wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Reasonable suspicion to detain
Searches without warrants
5th amendment due process
The courts have been clear what this means. Delays and process violations when detained are constitutional violations.
If someone is an illegal alien, that is reasonable suspicion to detain.
ICE has administrative warrants.
The due process for illegal aliens is deportation.
This is all wrong. If you read the links I’ve posted highlighting the 2300 unconstitutional detainments since July it’ll lay it out.
The law is a little more rigorous than “just say things”
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Chris Murphy on Fox News Sunday: "I mean -- c'mon. We're still pretending that ICE is going after dangerous people? They aren't. What is happening in Minnesota right now is a dystopia. ICE is teargassing elementary schools, it is disappearing legal residents into cars, it is murdering American citizens."
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exrunnerboy wrote:
pupilpie wrote:
is harambe two different people, or schizophrenic?
yesterday he published maxwell exonerating trump and some sort of anti trump gotcha that i still havent worked out and now, he doubles down on his 2300 claim by posting an article which goes into us citizens being detained in some detail and yet only provides 2 incorrect cases out of 400 000 presumably correct cases. a staggeringly low rate.
further, the article explains that these us citizens were not arrested by ICE, they were already in jail, and ice merely asked for them to be detained, presumably whilst working the case, as is their right.
and then there is this quote from the article;
In no recent cases was an American placed in deportation.so harambe doesnt answer our questions and just shouts epstein files, which seem to be full of democrats, but he does argue with himself, quite effectively it appears.
so i can continue my policy of not responding to him since he will in all probability contradict himself at some point.
He's a troll.
Yep. He tries to work on his pilpul as others stated but he just isn’t very good, especially when he hasn’t had every post that are counter to his posts removed.
Then there’s this development, ignored by the “traditional” (bolshevik) media:
I guess it’s better to concentrate on actual predators going after children.
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We voted for mass deportations - not just the bad hombres.
The vast majority of Americans want illegals deported. Even "mass deportations" has over 50% support.
The people have spoken - get out of the way.
Furthermore, the vast majority of Americans want some kind of voter-id. Only left-wing Dems are against this because they know without voter-id they can get more votes.
The right is winning. The left just has a bunch of loud losers on the streets and a cabal of very-rich, anti-American jews funding chaos.
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Harambe wrote:
nkoreatroll wrote:
If someone is an illegal alien, that is reasonable suspicion to detain.
ICE has administrative warrants.
The due process for illegal aliens is deportation.
This is all wrong. If you read the links I’ve posted highlighting the 2300 unconstitutional detainments since July it’ll lay it out.
The law is a little more rigorous than “just say things”
The courts have consistently upheld the validity of administrative warrants.
"2300 unconstitutional detainments" sounds like a political hack just saying things.
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