Harambe can’t even articulate the extent of Obama’s violation of the Constitution regarding immigration. His response is that his violations weren’t as bad as Trump’s so it’s okay.
Telling.
We don't need a million thread on this topic. We like one thread per topic. We merged several others into this thread including one called "Alex Pretti was a deranged lunatic." and one called "New York Times reports that Pretti attacked ICE cars 11 days before his death" and one called "LeBron James: Why hasn't he commented on the Alex Pretti killing?"
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Another American arrested at gunpoint illegally.
Props to ICE for descalating by swerving in front of and sprinting out guns drawn.
If masks dudes in an unmarked car surround you without identification - you’re legally justified in defending yourself. It’ll be good when someone does.
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Make Peace wrote:
Harambe can’t even articulate the extent of Obama’s violation of the Constitution regarding immigration. His response is that his violations weren’t as bad as Trump’s so it’s okay.
Telling.
That’s because they were scant and far between compared to the 2300+ trump has done so far
Evidence otherwise? If you don’t, then it’s you going “nuh uh” vs my evidence.
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maga2024 wrote:
Crazytown wrote:
The detentions and deportations during the Obama years were somewhat controversial, but not largely opposed. Here are the primary differences.
-these were not done performatively, the actions by ICE and CBP were more discreet so as not to cause disruption.
-the agents were not profiling individuals based on accent, color of their skin, or just looking like a foreigner; they were focused.
-the actions by agents were transparent
-the agents did not wear masks, geared up to their eyeballs and helmets in military gear
-the actions were not meant to intimidate an entire city
-they used court orders and due process
You won. No one even tried a retort.
This was the mic drop post I agree
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maga2024 wrote:
Crazytown wrote:
The detentions and deportations during the Obama years were somewhat controversial, but not largely opposed. Here are the primary differences.
-these were not done performatively, the actions by ICE and CBP were more discreet so as not to cause disruption.
-the agents were not profiling individuals based on accent, color of their skin, or just looking like a foreigner; they were focused.
-the actions by agents were transparent
-the agents did not wear masks, geared up to their eyeballs and helmets in military gear
-the actions were not meant to intimidate an entire city
-they used court orders and due process
You won. No one even tried a retort.
It’s already been stated that most of Obama’s deportations were the turnaways at the border - not inside the US, not actual deportations. Oy gevalt! Deceptive as always. Bath-House Barry Obama and his handlers had zero interest in doing anything that would actually benefit the US.
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Harambe wrote:
Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
Bingo. Immigration is a foundation of this country and necessary to fill demographic gaps in the economy. However, there is a legal path to citizenship and you don’t just get to cut the line, because one party unilaterally encourages it and enables it, and then demand “due process,” especially if you’ve committed a crime or are aiding and abetting those who have.
The media and the left (same thing prior to 2025) understood this when Clinton was president and when Obama was president, detaining people from cities with compliant governors and mayors (and killing some of them in the process before final deportation). But now it’s different. Gee, I wonder why. So shocking this would happen in Tim Walz’ Minnesota.
Did Obama have roving bands of masked agents going door to door without warrants?
Yes. Do your research.
I’ll take your complete ignorance on the matter a your concession.
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Me: isn’t it fishy that our president has had a 30+ year friendship with a teen raper?
Them: YOURE INSANE
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What happened before the video started? Seems like she was driving really fast, running away from ICE perhaps? What did she do? She wasn't minding her own business that's for sure. Fricked around and found out. Boo Hoo.
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Make Peace wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Did Obama have roving bands of masked agents going door to door without warrants?
Yes. Do your research.
I’ll take your complete ignorance on the matter a your concession.
Let’s assume you’re right, even though you gave no evidence.
Please give me evidence that this happened more than the 2300 times it’s happened under Trump since July.14 -
Masked Off wrote:
What happened before the video started? Seems like she was driving really fast, running away from ICE perhaps? What did she do? She wasn't minding her own business that's for sure. Fricked around and found out. Boo Hoo.
The feds have the burden of proof that their behavior was legal. This video appears to be a violation and incredibly dangerous and highly escalatory.
Everything you guys whining about Pretti applies here.
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Harambe wrote:
Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
Yep, I really appreciate his informed posts. Pretti should’ve de-escalated, especially while carrying a gun, but he did the exact opposite. Hence the unfortunate outcome.
HOWEVER, he WAS still killed while NOT being a direct threat. Two things can be true at once. You know, like, Harambe can be a leftwing agitating member of the nose-ringed militia and he can also be a narcissist. Reasonable people understand this.
He did de-escalate. He allowed himself to be detained, restrained, disarmed.
THEN they shot him.
What else was he supposed to do after getting on his stomach and giving up his firearm?
Does the Ape ever tell the truth?
Pretti was so cooperative … lol
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No Dairy With It wrote:
maga2024 wrote:
You won. No one even tried a retort.
It’s already been stated that most of Obama’s deportations were the turnaways at the border - not inside the US, not actual deportations. Oy gevalt! Deceptive as always. Bath-House Barry Obama and his handlers had zero interest in doing anything that would actually benefit the US.
Stating something doesn’t make it true. Go back to your boiler room, troll.
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No Dairy With It wrote:
maga2024 wrote:
You won. No one even tried a retort.
It’s already been stated that most of Obama’s deportations were the turnaways at the border - not inside the US, not actual deportations. Oy gevalt! Deceptive as always. Bath-House Barry Obama and his handlers had zero interest in doing anything that would actually benefit the US.
Obama deported as many people from the interior as Trump without sending roving masked thugs into cities. Interesting
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No Dairy With It wrote:
maga2024 wrote:
You won. No one even tried a retort.
It’s already been stated that most of Obama’s deportations were the turnaways at the border - not inside the US, not actual deportations. Oy gevalt! Deceptive as always. Bath-House Barry Obama and his handlers had zero interest in doing anything that would actually benefit the US.
Precisely. And the ones where ICE had to actually go into cities were to just do pickups because governors and mayors peacefully and lawfully complied with detainer requests. No media, no right wingers obstructing, no porous border overwhelmingly overrun in the lead up to his administration. This is Tim Walz’ and Jacob Frey’s Minnesota. Not Obama’s.
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No Dairy With It wrote:
Harambe wrote:
He did de-escalate. He allowed himself to be detained, restrained, disarmed.
THEN they shot him.
What else was he supposed to do after getting on his stomach and giving up his firearm?
Does the Ape ever tell the truth?
Pretti was so cooperative … lol
He was shot in the back after being disarmed. It’s impossible to de-escalate more than that
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Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
No Dairy With It wrote:
It’s already been stated that most of Obama’s deportations were the turnaways at the border - not inside the US, not actual deportations. Oy gevalt! Deceptive as always. Bath-House Barry Obama and his handlers had zero interest in doing anything that would actually benefit the US.
Precisely. And the ones where ICE had to actually go into cities were to just do pickups because governors and mayors peacefully and lawfully complied with detainer requests. No media, no right wingers obstructing, no porous border overwhelmingly overrun in the lead up to his administration. This is Tim Walz’ and Jacob Frey’s Minnesota. Not Obama’s.
Wrong. Obama deported just as many people from the interior.
MN of course is complying with detainer requests too when they make sense. And when ICE agents don’t execute Americans.
Of course ICE is going around trying to find guys already in prison. How does on comply with that?
Trump recently praised both Walz and Frey too
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Harambe wrote:
Sub-9:00 guy wrote:
Precisely. And the ones where ICE had to actually go into cities were to just do pickups because governors and mayors peacefully and lawfully complied with detainer requests. No media, no right wingers obstructing, no porous border overwhelmingly overrun in the lead up to his administration. This is Tim Walz’ and Jacob Frey’s Minnesota. Not Obama’s.
Wrong. Obama deported just as many people from the interior.
MN of course is complying with detainer requests too when they make sense. And when ICE agents don’t execute Americans.
Of course ICE is going around trying to find guys already in prison. How does on comply with that?
Trump recently praised both Walz and Frey too
Correct, once again.
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maga2024 wrote:
No Dairy With It wrote:
It’s already been stated that most of Obama’s deportations were the turnaways at the border - not inside the US, not actual deportations. Oy gevalt! Deceptive as always. Bath-House Barry Obama and his handlers had zero interest in doing anything that would actually benefit the US.
Stating something doesn’t make it true. Go back to your boiler room, troll.
Right. Just as the leftist media states Obama had such and such internal deportations, when he didn’t. You and your boiler room buds always project. But that’s a big part of pilpul, you know, deflecting, projection, isn’t it? The bottom level demoralization campaign stuff is amusing.
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maga2024 wrote:
No Dairy With It wrote:
It’s already been stated that most of Obama’s deportations were the turnaways at the border - not inside the US, not actual deportations. Oy gevalt! Deceptive as always. Bath-House Barry Obama and his handlers had zero interest in doing anything that would actually benefit the US.
Stating something doesn’t make it true. Go back to your boiler room, troll.
Oy vey! See? You Myrons and Nathans always project! LOL
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Harambe wrote:
Another American arrested at gunpoint illegally.
Props to ICE for descalating by swerving in front of and sprinting out guns drawn.
If masks dudes in an unmarked car surround you without identification - you’re legally justified in defending yourself. It’ll be good when someone does.
She should have swerved to the left and hit the driver.
Then she would be a dead domestic terrorist, like RG.
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