Trump issued permit for Keystone today!! And Charter Communications pledged MASSIVE investments in U.S. totally eliminating offshore activities!! MAGA
Trump issued permit for Keystone today!! And Charter Communications pledged MASSIVE investments in U.S. totally eliminating offshore activities!! MAGA
ItsBaddude wrote:
eric a blair wrote:as usual, you completely miss the point.
The point of that tweet not the CBO projection.
It is that Trump swore to the deplorables that he would Never Cut Medicaid.
But this bill cuts medicaid by a massive amount.
Because Trump lies all the time about almost everything.
Dude, you trust him for some reason...but he will betray you just like he betrayed people who he swore would not see their medicaid cut.
The rhetoric from left is aim at scaring people. The republicans are against everything but the rich, including killing old people, kids, keeping people uneducated, etc. It's been happening ever since I can remember politics.
You get your facts distilled by politifact. This is why you can't understand anything. If I rob my neighbor and give you half the loot and then the neighbor comes back for his loot, you will claim the neighbor is against you and poor people like you and wants to keep you down.
The republicans are reducing the amount of funding/matching grants it gives the states for the expansion of medicaid. This funding/matching was increased by Obamacare. They are doing in phases so that the states have time to figure out how to deal with medicaid (Obamacare lite). That is all.
You first have to understand that everyone wants the same thing regardless of political association. Next, you have to understand that there may be different ways of achieving a goal.
Whatever the fiscally conservative want to cut is because the money is because those programs are unsustainable. We keep pointing out over and over again at real examples in the world of how communism/socialism does not work. This is the ultimate goal all leftists argue for. People risk their lives and their families to flee those countries.
The republican plan needs to cut government involvement in the healthcare industry. Due to the filibuster rule the republicans need to be careful how they dismantle Obamacare. This is causing some friction between republican factions that believe the entire plan will never happen.
There is a 2 year window with a guaranteed majority in government. This is why there is a rush to implement the republican agenda. I think the republicans have a strategy to put as many proposals in this two year window as possible. If they filibuster the SCUTUS and the republicans use the nuke option then not only will the SCUTUS get nominated, but a range of stuff far worse from the Democrats point of view. They will use this strategy to peel away democrats and prevent the nuke option.
You aren't wrong in stating that everyone wants the same thing regardless of political affiliation. There is a significant percentage of the population that prioritizes freedom from government over healthcare for all. There is no question that some would prefer to pay higher premiums if they had to while insurers fill their pockets, than to have the government tell them how they have to buy insurance and dictate where their money goes.
There is no question people have fundamentally different attitudes about what's best for them and for the country, so no, we don't all want the same things. I prefer the government completely take over healthcare without any insurer involvement. I understand the repercussions that would have, but fundamentally I believe health care is a public welfare issue that should not involve for profit schemes. A lot of people like me want (and give priority to) healthcare for all, no matter if costs are high, while a lot of people would prefer to work through an insurer (no government) and not have to pay for others to have similar access. That's a big difference in what we want.
Please read more carefully.... wrote:
Kochie wrote:Why haven't any of you on the Left brought up the Koch brothers' warning to those Republicans that vote for the health care bill? Remember, before Trump, they were your "evil" scapegoats. But now that they're against Trump passing a bill, you're silent on them?
Um, you really are a typical mouth-breathing Trumpet aren't you? Before you make a statement you should at least read the post from this AM. You missed this one which brings up the Koch's.....
Kansas is good at basketball wrote:
I think that pretty accurately sums up the depth of their agenda and plan. I like the allusion to Kansas which is a shining beacon of the free market / freedom caucus approach to government....
http://www.salon.com/2017/02/23/kansas-gop-revolts-nearly-overturns-gov-sam-brownbacks-billion-dollar-failed-experiment/https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-24/kansas-ends-bad-economic-news-by-not-reporting-ithttp://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-kansas-hard-times-snap-20161121-story.htmlhttps://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/kansass-failed-experiment/389874/http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article129281854.html....clearly based on the results in Kansas we should follow the freedom caucus / Koch bros approach to governing. It works out so well!
That's it? THAT'S the degree to which you crybabies have brought up the evil Koch brothers in this discussion? As I said, that's pretty limited compared to past situations when they were the go-to scapegoat.
Kochie wrote:
That's it? THAT'S the degree to which you crybabies have brought up the evil Koch brothers in this discussion? As I said, that's pretty limited compared to past situations when they were the go-to scapegoat.
Here's a quick hint for you: The subject of this thread is "Official LRC President Donald J Trump Inauguration Thread"
I added the underline just in case you might have difficulties figuring it out.
Best of luck!
DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:
eric a blair wrote:more winning, trumpers. Tired of it yet?
New lows for trump approval: 42.4 per RCP average.
That Rasmussen poll you trumpers were singling out? It's down to 44% approval. Still care to underline and support that poll?
I suspect even you people will join the disapprovers at some point.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.htmlI just bought another assault rifle and a dozen 30rd magazines for it. I love WINNING!!
You tired of losing agip? You tired of not being able to tell other people how to live? You tired of losing?😂
You tired of me having FREEDOM🇺🇸
This agip guy must have really punctured a nerve in the past huh? Every post of yours has something about him. You are obsessed. Go back to pea shooting in your video games and stop polluting the thread with your tough guy nonsense.
eric a blair wrote:
https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/845327402154835968
ROFL!!!!
Republican House members for the last seven years: "Obamacare is horrible! It must be repealed!!!!"
...they subsequently vote 50+ times to repeal it--wasting everyone's time and taxpayer money. Then they're in control of the entire Governemnt and what happens?
Paul Ryan: "it's our time boys LETS DO THIS! What's our replacement plan again?"
The very same House republicans: "oh, I don't know....but Obamacare is bad!!!!!"
Republicans are simple minded yokels that are incapable of dealing with complex issues related to governing. If an entire plan--including all the necessary details--can not be distilled down into a bummer sticker slogan or 140 characters it's beyond their mental capacity. What a joke!
#MAGA
#Unpresdiented
#Whoknewhealthcarewassocomplex
MAGA MAN wrote:
Trump issued permit for Keystone today!! And Charter Communications pledged MASSIVE investments in U.S. totally eliminating offshore activities!! MAGA
shhh don't say that it ruins the narrative that trump is a failure cucks dont wanna hear that
dont say a word wrote:
MAGA MAN wrote:Trump issued permit for Keystone today!! And Charter Communications pledged MASSIVE investments in U.S. totally eliminating offshore activities!! MAGA
shhh don't say that it ruins the narrative that trump is a failure cucks dont wanna hear that
Keystone is 35 permanent jobs and will be built with imported steel not American steel. wah hoo. Huge win. massive. 35 jobs. yeah, Great.
meanwhile, FBI director Comey just walked into the WH. Totally normal, totally expected.
#MAGA
Right there in front of you wrote:
Guys- all of you- I just watched Van Jones on CNN say that "confidence in the Administration... and politicians in general... is fading, and that's a bad thing blah blah blah."
So here's the observation/question:
Does he and talking heads (and currently a lot of the Liberals) not realize that is the very reason Trump won? He didn't win because the US population thought politicians are doing a wonderful job. He won because the voters think both sides are slimy scumbags. The voters said no to the most establishment candidate in the history of establishment candidates.
So.... is he just being disingenuous here, or does he and the other talking heads really not realize this?
I get that. However, Trump was not even close to being the answer to that problem. In fact, he's unfortunately just going to demonstrate that an outsider is a bad idea amd we'll be back to the same $hit as before. So whoever voted for him thinking he's the man that could break up the political disaster is sadly mistaken. Not to mention all the signs and precedent were there that he is a clown who knows nothing about how to actually operate a business, let alone govern. He has always only been the "chairman" of his enterprise, depending on people who actually have competence. It easy to find talent. But has he actually run operations? Heck no.
Really tho wrote:
If the Health Care bill doesn't pass, it's much more of a loss for Ryan than Trump. Ryan's been railing against Obamacare since 2008, and then had to campaign against it again as a VP candidate in 2012, and then became Speaker with one of his main goals being to repeal and replace Obamacare.
He's much more invested in it and ideologically alaigned against it than Trump. Trump probably couldn't care less (sadly).
The thing is, no wanted Ryan's job before, and they certainly don't want it now. Ryan was doomed the day Trump beat Hillary. He's not going anywhere though. If things start to heat up, Trump will point the finger at Ryan/GOP and vice versa. These are career politicians and at some point they will have to grow a spine, band together, and fight for their survival. Trump may not be here in 4 years, but he definitely wont be here in 8 years, but the parties will.
TroLLminator wrote:
Right there in front of you wrote:Guys- all of you- I just watched Van Jones on CNN say that "confidence in the Administration... and politicians in general... is fading, and that's a bad thing blah blah blah."
So here's the observation/question:
Does he and talking heads (and currently a lot of the Liberals) not realize that is the very reason Trump won? He didn't win because the US population thought politicians are doing a wonderful job. He won because the voters think both sides are slimy scumbags. The voters said no to the most establishment candidate in the history of establishment candidates.
So.... is he just being disingenuous here, or does he and the other talking heads really not realize this?
I get that. However, Trump was not even close to being the answer to that problem. In fact, he's unfortunately just going to demonstrate that an outsider is a bad idea amd we'll be back to the same $hit as before. So whoever voted for him thinking he's the man that could break up the political disaster is sadly mistaken. Not to mention all the signs and precedent were there that he is a clown who knows nothing about how to actually operate a business, let alone govern. He has always only been the "chairman" of his enterprise, depending on people who actually have competence. It easy to find talent. But has he actually run operations? Heck no.
and the trump org is a mom and pop business - there are no real operations...it's transactional. One after the next. It's not a complicated company with managers. It's the family. That's why he has put his family in white house jobs - it's the only way he knows how to do anything.
Kochie wrote:
eric a blair wrote:Now Trump will create a massive diversionary controversy to change the headlines away from his failure. God help us.
and this:
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/845314898276106240Why haven't any of you on the Left brought up the Koch brothers' warning to those Republicans that vote for the health care bill? Remember, before Trump, they were your "evil" scapegoats. But now that they're against Trump passing a bill, you're silent on them?
Those are old tactics, nothing to see there
While they may represent the root of all evil for Democrats in the past, the biggest risk was always that the GOP gained more power. Right now we are dealing with something much bigger. It's like the official fall of the Roman Empire. At best, he'll be impeached, America will continue to be a laughing stock and we'll go back to worrying about the evil Koch brothers. This guy however, could actually trigger WWIII.
eric a blair wrote:
dont say a word wrote:shhh don't say that it ruins the narrative that trump is a failure cucks dont wanna hear that
Keystone is 35 permanent jobs and will be built with imported steel not American steel. wah hoo. Huge win. massive. 35 jobs. yeah, Great.
Even worse. I read somewhere that it probably won't be built anyway. With lower oil prices it's not cost effective any more.
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La muerta.
No vote.
So much winning. Every day another win, trumpers.
honestly, I am surprised at the awfullness of the Repubs. This is probably the worst managing of a major bill I've ever heard of.
beginnign to end...they have house, senate, WH
they came up with a bill hated by almost everyone.
wow
major loss for trump and ryan.
I have been agreeing with Frum a lot in the past couple months.