Right there in front of you wrote:
He won because the voters think both sides are slimy scumbags.
So Trump was the anti-scumbag choice.
Got it.
Right there in front of you wrote:
He won because the voters think both sides are slimy scumbags.
So Trump was the anti-scumbag choice.
Got it.
Oh please.. wrote:
Right there in front of you wrote:Guys- all of you- I just watched Van Jones on CNN say that "confidence in the Administration... and politicians in general... is fading, and that's a bad thing blah blah blah."
So here's the observation/question:
Does he and talking heads (and currently a lot of the Liberals) not realize that is the very reason Trump won? He didn't win because the US population thought politicians are doing a wonderful job. He won because the voters think both sides are slimy scumbags. The voters said no to the most establishment candidate in the history of establishment candidates.
So.... is he just being disingenuous here, or does he and the other talking heads really not realize this?
You need to listen to the rednecks. Trump won because he promised a bunch of stuff. They think a bunch of factories will be opened, coal will suddenly be better than natural gas, immigrants will disappear, everyone will have cheap health care, he'll tear up the Iran deal, he'll defeat ISIS.
They actually BELIEVED this stuff. That's why they voted for him. Well, that and a generic hatred of "libruhls".
He won't deliver for them but it won't matter. They're too stupid to figure it out.
well really Trump didn't win because of the deplorables...he won because blacks and hispanics did not show up to vote in Detroit, Philly and Miliwaukee.
If their turnout had been close to what it was for Obama, HRC would have won easily. But it wasn't.
Importantt to note that Trump won not by his strength, but by HRC's weakness in three cities.
Fat hurts wrote:
DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:Jesus, then why not just donate any or all your money to the poor and the sick?
You are delighted? Yeah you are delighted to receive a FCKN handout you do nothing fat fck😂
Jesus, you libbbtards are FCKN stupid😂
I do give lots of money to the poor and the sick. Do you?
He IS the poor and sick!
Fat hurts wrote:
Pat and Jan wrote:Seriously, of course it will pass today! Trump will look like the great deal maker again.
I don't think it will pass, but if it does it will not be something that keeps any of his campaign promises on health care.
Either way, Trump looks like a very poor deal maker indeed!
"it will not be something that keeps any of his campaign promises on health care"??? Are you for real, man? Have you not been paying attention at all?
Reality does not matter to the Trumpettes. Broken promises are meaningless to the Trumpettes. Go back and read the posts of the insane one - "Drink..." THAT is a Trumpette.
Trump WILL declare victory. A YUGE Victory. And the Trumpettes WILL cheer.
STSBO wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:I don't think it will pass, but if it does it will not be something that keeps any of his campaign promises on health care.
Either way, Trump looks like a very poor deal maker indeed!
"it will not be something that keeps any of his campaign promises on health care"??? Are you for real, man? Have you not been paying attention at all?
Reality does not matter to the Trumpettes. Broken promises are meaningless to the Trumpettes. Go back and read the posts of the insane one - "Drink..." THAT is a Trumpette.
Trump WILL declare victory. A YUGE Victory. And the Trumpettes WILL cheer.
not necessarily true. Trump's approval fell 11 points in two weeks, per one poll anyway. he is not immune from the laws of politics.
umeanihaveachance wrote:
eric a blair wrote:more winning, trumpers. Tired of it yet?
New lows for trump approval: 42.4 per RCP average.
That Rasmussen poll you trumpers were singling out? It's down to 44% approval. Still care to underline and support that poll?
I suspect even you people will join the disapprovers at some point.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html44% is not bad. If you put 1 million people in a room, that's 440,000 who approve of Trump. That'a a lot of people!
What if you put them in a barn? Would that still be a lot of people?
What if you put just 10 people in a room (sorry, my living room is not that yuge)? Then would the 4.4 of them still be a lot of people?
Your observation is just so profound - so much said in so few words!
eric a blair wrote:
Oh please.. wrote:You need to listen to the rednecks. Trump won because he promised a bunch of stuff. They think a bunch of factories will be opened, coal will suddenly be better than natural gas, immigrants will disappear, everyone will have cheap health care, he'll tear up the Iran deal, he'll defeat ISIS.
They actually BELIEVED this stuff. That's why they voted for him. Well, that and a generic hatred of "libruhls".
He won't deliver for them but it won't matter. They're too stupid to figure it out.
well really Trump didn't win because of the deplorables...he won because blacks and hispanics did not show up to vote in Detroit, Philly and Miliwaukee.
If their turnout had been close to what it was for Obama, HRC would have won easily. But it wasn't.
Importantt to note that Trump won not by his strength, but by HRC's weakness in three cities.
Correct. The rural "rednecks", "deplorables", etc. only represent like 15% of the population. Making this group the enemy was the Dems' biggest strategic error. The suburbs represent 50% of the population, and Trump won there, especially in the Great Lakes and Midwest regions where their daily concerns are far, far different than in the NY/DC Beltway.
The Dems F'd up big time by going all in on pretty extreme identity politics. They amped it up to 11, and it imploded because the blacks and Hispanics don't actually feel like the Left has done anything significant for them.
Oh please.. wrote:
Right there in front of you wrote:Guys- all of you- I just watched Van Jones on CNN say that "confidence in the Administration... and politicians in general... is fading, and that's a bad thing blah blah blah."
So here's the observation/question:
Does he and talking heads (and currently a lot of the Liberals) not realize that is the very reason Trump won? He didn't win because the US population thought politicians are doing a wonderful job. He won because the voters think both sides are slimy scumbags. The voters said no to the most establishment candidate in the history of establishment candidates.
So.... is he just being disingenuous here, or does he and the other talking heads really not realize this?
You need to listen to the rednecks. Trump won because he promised a bunch of stuff. They think a bunch of factories will be opened, coal will suddenly be better than natural gas, immigrants will disappear, everyone will have cheap health care, he'll tear up the Iran deal, he'll defeat ISIS.
They actually BELIEVED this stuff. That's why they voted for him. Well, that and a generic hatred of "libruhls".
He won't deliver for them but it won't matter. They're too stupid to figure it out.
This ^
x 1000
If the Health Care bill doesn't pass, it's much more of a loss for Ryan than Trump. Ryan's been railing against Obamacare since 2008, and then had to campaign against it again as a VP candidate in 2012, and then became Speaker with one of his main goals being to repeal and replace Obamacare.
He's much more invested in it and ideologically alaigned against it than Trump. Trump probably couldn't care less (sadly).
YouBcorrect wrote:
eric a blair wrote:well really Trump didn't win because of the deplorables...he won because blacks and hispanics did not show up to vote in Detroit, Philly and Miliwaukee.
If their turnout had been close to what it was for Obama, HRC would have won easily. But it wasn't.
Importantt to note that Trump won not by his strength, but by HRC's weakness in three cities.
Correct. The rural "rednecks", "deplorables", etc. only represent like 15% of the population. Making this group the enemy was the Dems' biggest strategic error. The suburbs represent 50% of the population, and Trump won there, especially in the Great Lakes and Midwest regions where their daily concerns are far, far different than in the NY/DC Beltway.
The Dems F'd up big time by going all in on pretty extreme identity politics. They amped it up to 11, and it imploded because the blacks and Hispanics don't actually feel like the Left has done anything significant for them.
agreed on the ID politics. Every time HRC listed 12 different groups of people but never mentioned white people she lost another county.
I suspect that kind of list also cost her among blacks - they elect Dem presidents and they want to be at the center, not just another group on a list.
more winning today, Trumpers. New lows in Trump approval and the health care bill is failing again.
Down to 20 cents on the dollar in betting markets.
show your faith in the orange deer leader - you can make a lot of money if you are right.
(but: Ryan is walking over to the WH right now to speak with the deer leader - I suspect he is saying the game is over.)
STSBO wrote:
Oh please.. wrote:You need to listen to the rednecks. Trump won because he promised a bunch of stuff. They think a bunch of factories will be opened, coal will suddenly be better than natural gas, immigrants will disappear, everyone will have cheap health care, he'll tear up the Iran deal, he'll defeat ISIS.
They actually BELIEVED this stuff. That's why they voted for him. Well, that and a generic hatred of "libruhls".
He won't deliver for them but it won't matter. They're too stupid to figure it out.
This ^
x 1000
President TRUMP has already delivered libbbtard.
Number of times PRESIDENT TRUMP has moved to or even threatened to relieve me of my RKBA = ZERO.
You libbbtards tried that $hit in the past and you always lose😂
You are to stupid to figure it out😂😂
Because libbbtards are all dumb fcks😂😂😂
I WON, AMERICA WON😎🇺🇸
Really tho wrote:
If the Health Care bill doesn't pass, it's much more of a loss for Ryan than Trump. Ryan's been railing against Obamacare since 2008, and then had to campaign against it again as a VP candidate in 2012, and then became Speaker with one of his main goals being to repeal and replace Obamacare.
He's much more invested in it and ideologically alaigned against it than Trump. Trump probably couldn't care less (sadly).
I think it's a big loss for the Republican party in general. I believe every single one of the 17 Republican candidates said they would repeal and replace Obamacare. It was like a broken record.
What this failure does is highlight the wide gulf of philosophical differences in the party. There is no unity. It also shows that both Trump and Ryan are not all that powerful. I congratulate those Representatives that held their ground and didn't cave in under political pressure.
Now Trump will create a massive diversionary controversy to change the headlines away from his failure. God help us.
and this:
DRINK F*** FIGHT wrote:
STSBO wrote:This ^
x 1000
President TRUMP has already delivered libbbtard.
Number of times PRESIDENT TRUMP has moved to or even threatened to relieve me of my RKBA = ZERO.
You libbbtards tried that $hit in the past and you always lose😂
You are to stupid to figure it out😂😂
Because libbbtards are all dumb fcks😂😂😂
I WON, AMERICA WON😎🇺🇸
And there is the proof.
QED
2040
Trumpettes are NOT Americans!
eric a blair wrote:
Now Trump will create a massive diversionary controversy to change the headlines away from his failure. God help us.
and this:
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/845314898276106240
Frum hits the nail on the head. This is what I've been saying for over a year now.
eric a blair wrote:
Now Trump will create a massive diversionary controversy to change the headlines away from his failure. God help us.
and this:
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/845314898276106240
Why haven't any of you on the Left brought up the Koch brothers' warning to those Republicans that vote for the health care bill? Remember, before Trump, they were your "evil" scapegoats. But now that they're against Trump passing a bill, you're silent on them?
Kochie wrote:
eric a blair wrote:Now Trump will create a massive diversionary controversy to change the headlines away from his failure. God help us.
and this:
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/845314898276106240Why haven't any of you on the Left brought up the Koch brothers' warning to those Republicans that vote for the health care bill? Remember, before Trump, they were your "evil" scapegoats. But now that they're against Trump passing a bill, you're silent on them?
Um, you really are a typical mouth-breathing Trumpet aren't you? Before you make a statement you should at least read the post from this AM. You missed this one which brings up the Koch's.....
Kansas is good at basketball wrote:
Freedumb Cockus core values... wrote:Their core values are simple. Two words: FREE MARKET!
Now all you have to do is click your heels together three times and shout FREE MARKET in a loud angry voice and PRESTO! all of our healthcare woes will be magically solved.
I think that pretty accurately sums up the depth of their agenda and plan. I like the allusion to Kansas which is a shining beacon of the free market / freedom caucus approach to government....
http://www.salon.com/2017/02/23/kansas-gop-revolts-nearly-overturns-gov-sam-brownbacks-billion-dollar-failed-experiment/https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-24/kansas-ends-bad-economic-news-by-not-reporting-ithttp://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-kansas-hard-times-snap-20161121-story.htmlhttps://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/kansass-failed-experiment/389874/http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article129281854.html....clearly based on the results in Kansas we should follow the freedom caucus / Koch bros approach to governing. It works out so well!