Another protestor shot by federal agents in Minnesota

He's so irrational it's almost a mental illness.

Far behind the “but tariffs”, “but Epstein” liberal progressive who refuses to answer simple questions.

please keep posing common sense, policy and experience.

My weapons license does not require any training, but it does require a heightened sense of responsibility, and despite the no formal need for training, competence is still assessed.

do what?

just answer the questions. which you havent, so, as promised, yu are now in the legweakydies bin of being ignored until you actualy debate any of my points in good faith.

cyonara

Yep, I really appreciate his informed posts. Pretti should’ve de-escalated, especially while carrying a gun, but he did the exact opposite. Hence the unfortunate outcome.

HOWEVER, he WAS still killed while NOT being a direct threat. Two things can be true at once. You know, like, Harambe can be a leftwing agitating member of the nose-ringed militia and he can also be a narcissist. Reasonable people understand this.

im sorry, how can you be 'no threat' whilst violently resisting arrest and armed?

I don't understand why MAGA is so afraid of immigrants.

After all, MAGA tells us that they are superior in every way. Hard-nosed MAGA patriots are blessed with strength, righteousness, cunning, common sense, grit, conviction, and sheer firepower. No immigrant would ever stand a chance if they messed with a MAGA man or woman.

And yet, MAGA's fear of immigrants is palpable A constant state of worry is maintained. All of MAGA's confidence seems to fly out the window whenever outsiders are mentioned.

You know who doesn't seem to fear immigrants? The people who live among them. The adjunct professors of the city. The librarians. Yoga instructors. Nail salon owners.

MAGA probably assumes that these types are stupid and weak--easy pickings for the murderous horde. But so many of these people actually seem to be enjoying their lives. There is an ultra-competitive environment for buying houses and renting apartments in urban areas. If these places were truly out of control, then wouldn't there be mile after mile of vacant homes? And if immigrant crime were truly a problem, then wouldn't city dwellers cheer immigration officers as liberators? MAGA supporters will probably claim that these city residents are just brainwashed to tolerate violence and crime, but the people of New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago are quite vigilant about calling 9-1-1 when there are problems. New York has 34,000 police officers. Would such a force be required if brainwashed citizens tolerated crime and never reported it? In actuality, city residents complain about everything. If immigrant crime was truly a problem in these areas, we'd never hear the end of it.

But I guess MAGA gets to dictate what people should and should not fear.

Never in history has such a strong group of people been so utterly frightened. Maybe we should reconsider MAGA strength going forward.

I didn’t say he was no threat whatsoever. I said he was de-armed when he got shot. Doesn’t mean he didn’t commit a felony. Only that he shouldn’t have been shot at that point. But, believe me, I get it. Mistakes happen when people choose to take risks and not de-escalate.

It’s a real shocker that the president famously known for saying “grab them by the p*ssy” turned out to by a sex criminal

I sympathise, but he had one gun removed when he was shot, he might have had others, and most other leos clearly didnt know this. i agree that with hindsight he probably wasnt a threat at that time, but in the chaos, LEOs couldnt rely on this.

but case law shows that in the chaos of such an incident an officer has to go on what was reasonable.

MAGA has no problems with immigrants. MAGA plus non-MAGA that voted for Trump are opposed to illegal "immigrants." Why are democrats supporting illegal activities?

Hyperbole much?

Bingo. Immigration is a foundation of this country and necessary to fill demographic gaps in the economy. However, there is a legal path to citizenship and you don’t just get to cut the line, because one party unilaterally encourages it and enables it, and then demand “due process,” especially if you’ve committed a crime or are aiding and abetting those who have.

The media and the left (same thing prior to 2025) understood this when Clinton was president and when Obama was president, detaining people from cities with compliant governors and mayors (and killing some of them in the process before final deportation). But now it’s different. Gee, I wonder why. So shocking this would happen in Tim Walz’ Minnesota.

President Lincoln suspended habeas corpus.

Trump hasn't.

Look up the legal definitions and case law. Resisting without violence is a very low bar.

You have 5 downvotes.

This is not and 80-20 issue.