Tim Cheruiyot Skipping Bislett Games Dream Mile To Plant Potatoes

ex-runner wrote:

Coevett wrote:

Your line of reasoning is the train wreck, as well as that of the other doping apologists here.

What he did is suspicious because the Kenyan world number 1 he only recently took over from just got popped for EPO, in the most damning circumstances possible (he failed the test but everybody accepts that he was warned of it beforehand by corrupt or clueless Kenyan testers). His coach happens to be the manager to the cross country team. The manager for the Kenyan team for Rio just got charged for running a sophisticated doping regime from an El Doret hospital. If you don't think Kenyan isn't going to be totally exposed over the next year or tow, and that Tim's simple souled decision to skip the dream mile to 'plant potatoes' isn't, then you have your head in the sand, just as El K does.

And you're a fool if you think 'nobody outside of Norway cares about the dream mile'. Middle distance fans do and somebody who cares about his position in the sport and its history should, especially after his countryman just got popped, further killing the sport.

The Bislett Games is one of the best attended diamond league meets. Norway is per capita the wealthiest nation on Earth outside of the middle-east. I'm pretty sure they're paying decent money. There is a 30 day gap between Stockholm (3 days after Oslo) and the next Diamond League event. He surely must be off the PEDs if a 30 day break wouldn't be enough for him. Kenyans are clearly doping like lunatics for the financial incentives, yet Tim is such a simple soul he not only is clean, he chooses to forego appearance and prize money to plant potatoes.

With just over 500 twitter followers, literally nobody outside this forum has heard of Tim, and this is his second season as number one in the world.

Not suspicious to return to Kenya for a bit in the middle of the season.

He ran the commonwealth games, meaning that he has already had a long season up to this point. He needs to manage his season to not burn out. He raced and won all the 1500m/mile races on the DL circuit up till the start of June.

Now he has taken a mid season break, retuned to Kenya, raced the 800m to get a new PB/test his speed in front of his home crowd (what was that you were saying about marketability?).

I'd guess at the rest of his season involving him racing sparingly with a focus on winning the National Champs and then maybe a hyped up WR attempt at Monaco (will run 3:27/3:28 if everything is perfect on the day). Then probably will want to do the African Champs early August time.

He could also just run every diamond league for the rest of the season (rendering this thread even more pointless) but that would be foolish IMO.

Coevett wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

Not suspicious to return to Kenya for a bit in the middle of the season.

He ran the commonwealth games, meaning that he has already had a long season up to this point. He needs to manage his season to not burn out. He raced and won all the 1500m/mile races on the DL circuit up till the start of June.

Now he has taken a mid season break, retuned to Kenya, raced the 800m to get a new PB/test his speed in front of his home crowd (what was that you were saying about marketability?).

I'd guess at the rest of his season involving him racing sparingly with a focus on winning the National Champs and then maybe a hyped up WR attempt at Monaco (will run 3:27/3:28 if everything is perfect on the day). Then probably will want to do the African Champs early August time.

He could also just run every diamond league for the rest of the season (rendering this thread even more pointless) but that would be foolish IMO.

But he didn't go home to have a rest, he went home to plant potatoes before front running a sub 1:45 800m pb at a meaningless 'prison championships'.

Also, note that Silas Kiplagat, a 3:27 1500m runner, finished 3rd, two seconds behind in 1:47. How is it possible a 3:27 1500m man can only run 1:47 for the 800m?

ex-runner wrote:

Coevett wrote:

But he didn't go home to have a rest, he went home to plant potatoes before front running a sub 1:45 800m pb at a meaningless 'prison championships'.

Also, note that Silas Kiplagat, a 3:27 1500m runner, finished 3rd, two seconds behind in 1:47. How is it possible a 3:27 1500m man can only run 1:47 for the 800m?

Who said rest? Have you any idea about athletics at all? I said a mid season break.

I.e. a break from hard 1500m racing against tough competition on the international stage and getting more training in instead. If you race the 1500m frequently from mid April to late August you won't be very healthy going into the World championship year.

That sub 1:45 800m would have helped Cheruiyot test out his speed but it was not taxing. He is likely a 1:42 man. There was no competition, second place ran 1:47; he ran it as an exhibition. Have you ever come across the notion of racing your non-typical event for training?

Yes that photo looks like training to me.

ex-runner wrote:

Coevett wrote:

But he didn't go home to have a rest, he went home to plant potatoes before front running a sub 1:45 800m pb at a meaningless 'prison championships'.

Also, note that Silas Kiplagat, a 3:27 1500m runner, finished 3rd, two seconds behind in 1:47. How is it possible a 3:27 1500m man can only run 1:47 for the 800m?

Who said rest? Have you any idea about athletics at all? I said a mid season break.

I.e. a break from hard 1500m racing against tough competition on the international stage and getting more training in instead. If you race the 1500m frequently from mid April to late August you won't be very healthy going into the World championship year.

That sub 1:45 800m would have helped Cheruiyot test out his speed but it was not taxing. He is likely a 1:42 man. There was no competition, second place ran 1:47; he ran it as an exhibition. Have you ever come across the notion of racing your non-typical event for training?

Yes that photo looks like training to me.

No way Josephus wrote:

What's up with this? wrote:

You two going to duke it out?

No.

He once threatened me (well, not really :P - he quoted my post and said something that could be understood as a threat) so that choice of name was tongue in cheek.

I actually like most of Coevett's reasoning but not how he "talks" to others. A bit like m!ndweak.

You could garner a lot more support if you are polite.

That's why I was asking him about the idiot thing.

About the topic, does it sound strange that an elite runner misses one of the most important meets in the season to plant potatoes? Maybe. But Mo Farah, for example, missed many meets (most meets, I think) during the season.

I guess Mo wasn't planting potatoes but he did his own thing, like training abroad, or spending time with his family, I don't know.

Tim could have tweeted "Back home for some more training and local competition - in the meantime helping out in the family plot this afternoon." - and there would have been nothing suspicious about that.

Athlete peaked early, back home to recover and work towards another peak late in the season, in the meantime spending time with his family.

And about tweeter, there are many, many professional athletes who don't use it.

Coevett wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

Who said rest? Have you any idea about athletics at all? I said a mid season break.

I.e. a break from hard 1500m racing against tough competition on the international stage and getting more training in instead. If you race the 1500m frequently from mid April to late August you won't be very healthy going into the World championship year.

That sub 1:45 800m would have helped Cheruiyot test out his speed but it was not taxing. He is likely a 1:42 man. There was no competition, second place ran 1:47; he ran it as an exhibition. Have you ever come across the notion of racing your non-typical event for training?

Yes that photo looks like training to me.

I'm not an ex-runner, but I'm not sure how running uphill pulling a tyre and then frontrunning a sub 1:45 800m in a new pb isn't any more taxing than running a Mile when you're clearly a couple of seconds faster than the rest of the field. The Dream Mile was won in 3:56. It would have been a stroll for Tim, somebody you're saying is going to run 3:27 in Monaco and he himself is talking about breaking the world record. How exactly does running in front of a couple of hundred spectators in the 'Kenyan prison championships' boost one's profile more than running in the Dream Mile in front of tens of thousands and beamed around the world to tens of millions?

Your post doesn't make any sense.

Coevett wrote:

No way Josephus wrote:

No.

He once threatened me (well, not really :P - he quoted my post and said something that could be understood as a threat) so that choice of name was tongue in cheek.

I actually like most of Coevett's reasoning but not how he "talks" to others. A bit like m!ndweak.

You could garner a lot more support if you are polite.

That's why I was asking him about the idiot thing.

About the topic, does it sound strange that an elite runner misses one of the most important meets in the season to plant potatoes? Maybe. But Mo Farah, for example, missed many meets (most meets, I think) during the season.

I guess Mo wasn't planting potatoes but he did his own thing, like training abroad, or spending time with his family, I don't know.

Tim could have tweeted "Back home for some more training and local competition - in the meantime helping out in the family plot this afternoon." - and there would have been nothing suspicious about that.

Athlete peaked early, back home to recover and work towards another peak late in the season, in the meantime spending time with his family.

And about tweeter, there are many, many professional athletes who don't use it.

You have been threatening me, and if it wasn't you, it doesn't help that you keep posting under various names. Why not stick with 'MurderDub' (a name itself that somewhat alarmed me given the death threats made by anonymous posters)?

Neither you nor Rekrunner have answered why he needed to miss Bislett when (after Stockholm 3 days later) there was a month gap till the next race.

This thread is shaping up to be one of the alltime LetsRun classics. I would be happy for Wejo to combine it with my 'East African Success Due Entirely to Peds' thread, but keep El K's sublimely non-ironic title.

I will make three predictions for this year :

1 - Rudisha will announce his retirement.

2 - Tim doesn't break 3:30 this year, even at Monaco.

3 - Another Kenyan medallist will get popped.

No way Josephus wrote:

What's up with this? wrote:

You two going to duke it out?

No.

He once threatened me (well, not really :P - he quoted my post and said something that could be understood as a threat) so that choice of name was tongue in cheek.

I actually like most of Coevett's reasoning but not how he "talks" to others. A bit like m!ndweak.

You could garner a lot more support if you are polite.

That's why I was asking him about the idiot thing.

About the topic, does it sound strange that an elite runner misses one of the most important meets in the season to plant potatoes? Maybe. But Mo Farah, for example, missed many meets (most meets, I think) during the season.

I guess Mo wasn't planting potatoes but he did his own thing, like training abroad, or spending time with his family, I don't know.

Tim could have tweeted "Back home for some more training and local competition - in the meantime helping out in the family plot this afternoon." - and there would have been nothing suspicious about that.

Athlete peaked early, back home to recover and work towards another peak late in the season, in the meantime spending time with his family.

And about tweeter, there are many, many professional athletes who don't use it.

Coevett wrote:

No way Josephus wrote:

No.

He once threatened me (well, not really :P - he quoted my post and said something that could be understood as a threat) so that choice of name was tongue in cheek.

I actually like most of Coevett's reasoning but not how he "talks" to others. A bit like m!ndweak.

You could garner a lot more support if you are polite.

That's why I was asking him about the idiot thing.

About the topic, does it sound strange that an elite runner misses one of the most important meets in the season to plant potatoes? Maybe. But Mo Farah, for example, missed many meets (most meets, I think) during the season.

I guess Mo wasn't planting potatoes but he did his own thing, like training abroad, or spending time with his family, I don't know.

Tim could have tweeted "Back home for some more training and local competition - in the meantime helping out in the family plot this afternoon." - and there would have been nothing suspicious about that.

Athlete peaked early, back home to recover and work towards another peak late in the season, in the meantime spending time with his family.

And about tweeter, there are many, many professional athletes who don't use it.

You have been threatening me, and if it wasn't you, it doesn't help that you keep posting under various names. Why not stick with 'MurderDub' (a name itself that somewhat alarmed me given the death threats made by anonymous posters)?

Neither you nor Rekrunner have answered why he needed to miss Bislett when (after Stockholm 3 days later) there was a month gap till the next race.

This thread is shaping up to be one of the alltime LetsRun classics. I would be happy for Wejo to combine it with my 'East African Success Due Entirely to Peds' thread, but keep El K's sublimely non-ironic title.

I will make three predictions for this year :

1 - Rudisha will announce his retirement.

2 - Tim doesn't break 3:30 this year, even at Monaco.

3 - Another Kenyan medallist will get popped.

m!ndweak wrote:

No way Josephus wrote:

No.

He once threatened me (well, not really :P - he quoted my post and said something that could be understood as a threat) so that choice of name was tongue in cheek.

I actually like most of Coevett's reasoning but not how he "talks" to others. A bit like m!ndweak.

You could garner a lot more support if you are polite.

That's why I was asking him about the idiot thing.

About the topic, does it sound strange that an elite runner misses one of the most important meets in the season to plant potatoes? Maybe. But Mo Farah, for example, missed many meets (most meets, I think) during the season.

I guess Mo wasn't planting potatoes but he did his own thing, like training abroad, or spending time with his family, I don't know.

Tim could have tweeted "Back home for some more training and local competition - in the meantime helping out in the family plot this afternoon." - and there would have been nothing suspicious about that.

Athlete peaked early, back home to recover and work towards another peak late in the season, in the meantime spending time with his family.

And about tweeter, there are many, many professional athletes who don't use it.

nice im glad you can name drop....the only people i didnt talk nice to was cause they ATTACKED me first, and that was vent/calculo, rekrunner and canova.

but here you are verbally assaulting me, like so many others do. do you know how many times i have been called moron? dumba$$, worthless, idiot, mentally retarded, dipsh*t, etc etc etc? and here you are calling me out as well, nice man.

i post links of DATA and make conclusions based upon them. some people on here dont really like that so they attack and cyber bully me. i used to try and defend myself but the brojos say i cant do that cause like its not ok to defend yourself if your not one of the "protected" people on here...but go ahead and insult me if it makes you feel better, im not a soft skinned SJW