Hocker COOKED in the 1500/mile?

It's a fair point about the 3:45.9 mile. Maybe people could reasonably debate about giving that better or worse than 3:30.00 for a 1500, though I definitely wouldn't match it against Jakob's 3:29.6 indoor WR. But it is certainly very fast running.

And I agree that the path for Hocker to WCs is a lot tougher that most of his non-American competition.

Looking forward to seeing what he does in the event outdoors!

lol I love how every time Cole runs well and dominates you are going to slink away into the shadows, and then every time he has a bad race you're going to come back to crow about being right.

Hocker wasn't fresh after a tightly contested 3k but he also blew the tactics in the same way as he has done on numerous occasions, letting a bunch of guys go past him with 450, just as he did at World's, leading to a box there and a dq, whereas here he wasn't able to make up the distance and get around everyone. He's had a really tough indoors as well. Tough to go to the well that many times. But also he has got to defend his spot in these races or stay out of the fray entirely. On the big outdoor track in the 5000m, he was able to stay out of the fray entirely and then pass everyone on the last lap at World's. Here there was too much traffic. In the Olympics, he went late but moved into a potential box, getting through only because Jakob decided to go outside to try to block Josh Kerr. He should talk to Bernard Lagat about positioning.

I love all the armchair runners who want to tell Hocker how he should race.

Is Hocker the fastest 1500 runner in the world? No, he's not even the fastest American.

Is he the fastest 5000m runner? Not even close.

Yet he's got two gold medals and a bunch of national titles. Seems his tactics are just fine.

Seems Jakob had no probs running 1500/3k doubles at Euro and Worlds

Jakob is an outlier GOAT. We don’t need to compare him to Hocker. Hocker faces a tougher qualification compared to other runners in other countries (except Jakob).

No, when Jakob doubles at Euros it is because he isn't racing anyone good. When Cole tries to double at USAs, it's unfair, and the competition is literally the best possible competition ever assembled.

How are you assessing the competition?

I'm being sarcastic. Jakob won 4 races in 4 days twice last year, and no one batted an eye. They would talk about how races were closer than they should've been, and there was no competition. That wasn't true of course, there were plenty of good guys - one of them won the WC in the 1500, one of them had the world lead last year, and one of them beat Hocker in the 1500 yesterday.

Most of Non Afro runners pretending to middle/long distances will be cooked after a few years.

These are the facts:

1. This short period (2020-2027) is just a period of recreation and a lifeline for the dignity of non Afro runners.

2. Africa has WR from 400m to Marathon. Could this be an error of testing system during 40 years.

3. Africa has exported more talent than any other continent to help Western countries win titles. Mo Farah, Lagat, S. Hassan, Kipketer are the best examples to come to mind.

4. Its not because of better testing this is happening.

5. The Sprint/Marathon challenge bars for non Afros.

How could you dominate the middle if you dont have access to the top andf the bottom?

Hein?

6. Athletics is one of the sports with the poorest outcome.

An elite athlete dont touch more than 10% of an elite Soccer/Football player in his whole life.

7. African have opened new challenge in other sports. You can see the example of Ghizlane Chebbak recently ranked in the top 11 worldwide team of 2025 FIFPRO.

This is a total clown post. 🤡🤡🤡

You seem so weak and sniveling.

I was posting here the day of the 3:45. Take a look at the timestamps, liar.

I own my statements, unlike all of the fanboys with nothing to say when their guy isn't even top-4 in his own nationals, with a WC spot on the line in his pet event.

tldr: COOKED

Good post.

Jakobs WIC 1500/3000 fields were so much stronger than this weekend's USATF 1500/3000 fields.

Look. Hocker was simply not beaten by the leading athletes in the event. With great respect, he was beaten at his own game by relative no-names.

Why are people arguing with this guy? It’s like debating politics with your drunk uncle.

Awww, the poor little piglet OP is sad because his mudslinging splattered in his face when Hocker ran 3:45 and now the piglet is all alone in his muddy little pigpen.

When you keep stooping lower and lower, don't be surprised when everyone views you as beneath them.

Bye piglet!

coming back to say “well what I said was UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE!” and he proved otherwise so your prediction was nothing and you are nothing and this thread is nothing gday bud

Hmm that's true at one level. But more reason for Hocker to prioritize US selection races and put the win beyond doubt and not make it a game of roulette. Surely a 3:45 miler can control a race like this to his liking.

And anyway, remember this? He had selection, but ran nationals for fun.

By what standard? Look at how his top competition (Gourley, Habz) fared vis a vis Nuguse in Millrose last year. Have those guys ever medaled in the Olympics, finished top 5 at Worlds, you can go on. Or how Nico Young compares to anyone but Aregawi in those 3,000m wins. Yes George Mills was good last year but he’s not as good as Nico in any respect and has a notoriously tepid finish. At Worlds Indoors, Luke Houser got 3rd, .38 behind Jakob so calling him a relative no-name is a bit rich. And if you watch the race it would’ve been even closer had Gourley not jostled Houser (legally). A smart move but it impacted Housers momentum.