Haha a big blow up is 20 minutes. After 90 marathons you get to do it all :). I was worried Jake would suffer in the heat, 17C doesn't sound hot, but with direct sun and at that speed, the heat generated is a lot.
The Marathon is an event where there can be physiological reasons people just can't do well in it even if they do well in other events. Plus he is 6 feet and 135. For context Kipchoge is 5 1 and 115.
Yeah I’m not buying those figures, especially Kipchoge’s height.
Cheptegei's stats are accurate, Kipchoge is 5'6 but the weight is right.
Still, in less than ideal conditions a 2.14 is a 3min pb for him. Even though he probably has another 4 min in him, its good to at least really solidify progress. Watched his his channel during 40km trial turn into a practice 2.16 marathon pb. I thought that was where the extra 3min today might have went .oh well...train harder ..not smarter!
I believe no top 10 Japanese women and the top man was 10th. I wonder how the Japanese fans will feel about this result.
Cheptegei is definitely improving and some things just come with time. I think that it is possible that, even with all the developments in shoe technology, some people are still just built better for other distances. But also, he could still keep improving and do something special. I guess it just remains to be seen.
Jake ran a full marathon in training recently in 2:16.
To be fair, it was like a 26.22 mile GPS run. Even elites run further than the true race line and often 26.3-4. That’s material time in a marathon (not trying to say this wasn’t impressive, just that the 2:16 in training is probably :30-60 slower than it would be a race).
Ah, this is a shame. Hopefully he won't beat himself up too much about it. He should take it easy for a month, hit a couple of fast tempos (NOT a training marathon!!) and have another go in a few months. He'll probably get a great time.
He was on for 2:12 at 35k, he can obviously do that in a full marathon if he just goes a bit easier in the very last part of the build-up.
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Number of US runners that have run sub 2:06:30 in the last 15 years.
1, Galen Rupp
Number of Aoyama Gakuin University runners that have run sub 2:06:30 in the last month.
2, Hiroki Wakabayashi (22), Asahi Kuroda (20)
(and there's a third guy, Aoi Oota, running with the leaders today)
Watch out! As soon as someone points out that Americans underperform in the marathon letsrunners will go all butthurt and start babbling about how many championship medals Japan has in the 1500. Stupid argument errors are typical for this place.
Japan heavily emphasizes the marathon in their training and development. Yet in their own major marathon, there was one 10th ranked man and no top 10 women. This isn't to take away from the fact that Japan has produced some good marathoners and good results, but now is a really weird time to gloat after, what could reasonably be considered, a very disappointing result at the Tokyo Marathon for native marathoners.
The reality is this, doping works, it's likely you have to dope to be world class. As long as you don't get caught nobody cares.
It was interesting seeing Sinners explanation for why he had clostebol in him. Its of course possible what he said is true, it's also possible they had the excuse prepared. Erriyon Knighton was able to do the same thing. Doesn't matter if they were cheating they gamed the system.
Sinner has a coldness to him, but Knighton still looks sheepish on the start line. You need to consider what your going to do to your spiritual health when you choose this path. It'll be hard to look people in the face until you start seeing people as the enemy, to be exploited. To toughen up and enjoy lying to people for the win.
My mate twice had his tools nicked from his van. They got away with it. They won, he lost, cry more. Personally police could easily trap these people by strategically placing builder vans around. Bait for predators. Probably too scared of a gun fight.
The reality is this, doping works, it's likely you have to dope to be world class. As long as you don't get caught nobody cares.
It was interesting seeing Sinners explanation for why he had clostebol in him. Its of course possible what he said is true, it's also possible they had the excuse prepared. Erriyon Knighton was able to do the same thing. Doesn't matter if they were cheating they gamed the system.
Sinner has a coldness to him, but Knighton still looks sheepish on the start line. You need to consider what your going to do to your spiritual health when you choose this path. It'll be hard to look people in the face until you start seeing people as the enemy, to be exploited. To toughen up and enjoy lying to people for the win.
My mate twice had his tools nicked from his van. They got away with it. They won, he lost, cry more. Personally police could easily trap these people by strategically placing builder vans around. Bait for predators. Probably too scared of a gun fight.
American track runners must have found a potent drug recently.
I hope you understand that doping would be an absolutely disgraceful act in Japanese culture, leading to lifelong shame for the athlete and their family. An honor suicide would be likely. In Africa, the attitude toward doping is completely different.
Japan heavily emphasizes the marathon in their training and development. Yet in their own major marathon, there was one 10th ranked man and no top 10 women. This isn't to take away from the fact that Japan has produced some good marathoners and good results, but now is a really weird time to gloat after, what could reasonably be considered, a very disappointing result at the Tokyo Marathon for native marathoners.
It’s important to mention, that differently from the big US marathons, Japanese ones do invite many high level athletes instead of having only few.
That being said, it was not any breakthrough marathon for Japan just another one with few solid performers.
I know this was stuck into the recap article as fact but, without context, it kind of falls flat to me. US runners have done well at the Olympics, US majors, and races in the heat. If they ran two fast/flat Japanese marathons every year, I'm sure this stat wouldn't exist. Feels lazy to just throw it in the article.
Meb 4th 2012 Olympics (top Japanese runner 6th), Rupp bronze 2016 Olympics/Ward 6th (top Japanese runner 16th), Rupp 8th in 2020 (Osako got him in 6th, the other 2 US runners finishes better than the other 2 Japanese runners), Mantz/Young 8-9 in 2024, with 1 Japanese runner 6th & another 13th.
So which is it? Is Japan so far ahead of the US in marathoning because of time alone or do US runners have relatively softer PBs & can actually compete with these guys at the Olympics? It's an interesting fact but context matters. You would think Japan would be the country with more Olympic success if you're just repeating that stat as fact.