What just happened? Everyone gets a (gold) medal. Did they just hand out two gold medals in the HJ instead of doing a jumpoff?

rojo wrote:

Society handing out a medal to everyone has reached a new peak (or low) depending on how you view it.

I think they just gave out two gold medals. Anyone watching on tv able to confirm?

Not a fan of this decision.

The Unkle wrote:

Jo72 wrote:

It was. But this shows the rule should be changed. Either jumpoff or both get only silver. Otherwise there is not good incentive to risk a jumpoff.

If it's a tie, don't they go back to who had the best record on the previous height?

They were tied for previous heights too,

They tied for gold, so they both got gold. It’s really very simple

how slow can these US distance runners get wrote:

Trucker Hat wrote:

Could you imagine if the two teams in any major American sport decided to tie for a championship. Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes meet at the end of regulation in a tie and decide not to play overtime.,They start hugging in joy as they tie as Super Bowl “champions” LMAO. They would get destroyed by their fan bases and football fans in general. This high jump joke is an example of why track and field is treated like a joke in America.

Track and field is treated like a joke in America because all the scrawny distance runners can't compete against the best in the world. The sprinters, jumpers and throwers save a little face for the country.

It may not be mainstream like football and basketball but I don’t think track and field is treated like a joke. It does have the highest participation rate among scholastic sports I believe. No one who already isn’t a track fan isn’t going to become less of one because the nature of the HJ event can lead to a tie.

American Neanderthals want to see guys bleed. Get long term brain damage. They don’t want real sports.

Trust Roberts Fund wrote:

how slow can these US distance runners get wrote:

Track and field is treated like a joke in America because all the scrawny distance runners can't compete against the best in the world. The sprinters, jumpers and throwers save a little face for the country.

It may not be mainstream like football and basketball but I don’t think track and field is treated like a joke. It does have the highest participation rate among scholastic sports I believe. No one who already isn’t a track fan isn’t going to become less of one because the nature of the HJ event can lead to a tie.

American Neanderthals want to see guys bleed. Get long term brain damage. They don’t want real sports.

Bingo

There had been six ties previously in the high jump in the Olympics. I noticed that the rules didn't have any provision for a jumper skipping a height. I think that one of the tiebreakers should be how many successful clearances you had. Barshim skipped 2.19, so Tamberi actually cleared one more height than Barshim. It's easier when you don't have as many jumps and both can clear 2.19 in their sleep. The rules only speak of the fewest misses at the last successful height and the fewest misses overall, but then someone could theoretically skip every height until 2.37, clear that and still tie.

They completed the competition and tied for first. Just 5 years ago there was a tie for gold in the 100 meter freestyle in Rio. Should Simone Manuel and Penny Oleksiak been required to have a swim off for first place?

malmo wrote:

If they jump one gets the gold. If not they both should have been given silver. Thats fair.

Why all the criticism or Rojo?

It's the war on whites, as explained on the "If US is so bad why don’t oppressed people seek asylum elsewhere"

LOL. Check it out, but you are forgiven if you missed it amongst all the racist ranting which has overrun the thread (and site) again.

The problem is that 2 top jumpers can easily conspire to both win Gold. It’s a flawed system, imo.

Gold was guaranteed to neither; but now think of it as the Stag Hunt Game from game theory.

The athletes can coordinate for maximal payoff and are also allowed to communicate.

Neither can improve his outcome by jump off but both stand to see a friend lose by continuing the competition.

Moreover, each risks massive income loss if injured.

Evolutionary has wired most humans to value equity and the well being of self and others, especially so between friends.

rojo wrote:

Society handing out a medal to everyone has reached a new peak (or low) depending on how you view it.

I think they just gave out two gold medals. Anyone watching on tv able to confirm?

they did a jump off. Both missed.

The option then was to share a gold.

I vote for the guy analogized lower & higher heights in the high jump to easier & harder holes in golf for the funniest analogy on the thread. That had to be a troll, and it was a funny one; he deserves some points.

zxcvczxv wrote:

There had been six ties previously in the high jump in the Olympics. I noticed that the rules didn't have any provision for a jumper skipping a height. I think that one of the tiebreakers should be how many successful clearances you had. Barshim skipped 2.19, so Tamberi actually cleared one more height than Barshim. It's easier when you don't have as many jumps and both can clear 2.19 in their sleep. The rules only speak of the fewest misses at the last successful height and the fewest misses overall, but then someone could theoretically skip every height until 2.37, clear that and still tie.

The countback rules are pared back now.

1. Last successful height, who had the least misses?

2. If the same, who had the least misses overall?

Both went totally clear to 2.39.

There used to be a 3rd countback which was total jumps, the least wins. Not so much point to this though and it was scrapped.

Whilst I can understand some feeling both getting gold felt a little dirty, but in any other event (apart from PV), if it's a tie, it's a tie. No run off or jump off or throw off.

rojo was right despite getting a lot of hate itt

They should have cut the medal in half give each one of them one part.

The same thing happened in Eugene, but this time the qatari asked for a jump-off. Why didn't he want to share another medal? I thought sports competitions were about wholesome moments of friendship, not, hm, competition?

That was definitely the most pathetic moment in the history of the Olympics.