Stop lying to yourselves about ATHING MU, she has WR potential

The more that Armstrong spouts, the more convinced I am that Mu will run 1:54 this year. Armstrong will have to be blocked because he will nonstop accuse her of doping.

Nothing you argue of what you think she can run is true until she runs it. Nothing you say suggests she can do clean what no other runner, doped or otherwise, has been unable to do for nearly forty years.

Until she breaks world records she's not as talented as Ryun. When he broke the 880 record he did it on a dirt track with a negative split at only aged 19. A lot like Mu. By your argument he should have later run at least 2 seconds faster at some point in his career, if not more. He didn't. Prodigies don't always do what we think they should.

"A lot like Mu" except for one crucial difference. Ryun broke the world record whereas she is still a huge margin off it.

Bower Woman wrote:

The more that Armstrong spouts, the more convinced I am that Mu will run 1:54 this year. Armstrong will have to be blocked because he will nonstop accuse her of doping.

So my arguments are going to enable her to run faster? But not yours?

Whatever she runs will in no way shape or form be determined by what anyone says here. And certainly not by over-the-top fans.

Her family is of South Sudanese heritage!

For a long time, Sudanese are known to have great 800m runners.

(there were some unique talents in the 80s)

If there wasn't the civil war, this country could be a hive of short middle distance runners.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Whatever she runs will in no way shape or form be determined by what anyone says here. And certainly not by over-the-top fans.

68 posts by you and counting. I'd say that's a bit over the top.

KIKIKI wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

Whatever she runs will in no way shape or form be determined by what anyone says here. And certainly not by over-the-top fans.

68 posts by you and counting. I'd say that's a bit over the top.

I'm not amongst those confidently predicting a world record from someone still nearly 5 seconds off it (sorry - 4.45). You don't think that's a bit over the top?

That's a whole lot of minutes of your life.

Have you all seen the all-time junior 800m list that Mu is now in? It's a combination of Intersex/DSD athletes and dopers, mainly East German... so which one is she?

1:54.01 Jelimo (KEN)

1:55.45 Semenya (RSA)

1:56.59 Niyonsaba (BUR)

1:57.45 Korner (GDR)

1:57.63 Mutola (MOZ)

1:57.73 Mu (USA)

1:57.74 Diago (CUB)

1:57.86 Wuhn (GDR)

1:58.18 Hubner (GDR)

1:58.21 Wilson (USA)

She's the one with real talent.

wiederganger wrote:

Have you all seen the all-time junior 800m list that Mu is now in? It's a combination of Intersex/DSD athletes and dopers, mainly East German... so which one is she?

1:54.01 Jelimo (KEN)

1:55.45 Semenya (RSA)

1:56.59 Niyonsaba (BUR)

1:57.45 Korner (GDR)

1:57.63 Mutola (MOZ)

1:57.73 Mu (USA)

1:57.74 Diago (CUB)

1:57.86 Wuhn (GDR)

1:58.18 Hubner (GDR)

1:58.21 Wilson (USA)

wiederganger wrote:

Have you all seen the all-time junior 800m list that Mu is now in? It's a combination of Intersex/DSD athletes and dopers, mainly East German... so which one is she?

1:54.01 Jelimo (KEN)

1:55.45 Semenya (RSA)

1:56.59 Niyonsaba (BUR)

1:57.45 Korner (GDR)

1:57.63 Mutola (MOZ)

1:57.73 Mu (USA)

1:57.74 Diago (CUB)

1:57.86 Wuhn (GDR)

1:58.18 Hubner (GDR)

1:58.21 Wilson (USA)

None of the above. Novel idea, I know.

This list is interesting in a different way, namely in improvements between junior and lifetime PB (current for Diago and Wilson who could still improve their PB)

Jelimo: 0.0

Semenya 1.2

Niyonsaba 1.12

Körner (née Ullrich) 0.25

Mutola 2.44

Diago 0.0

Wühn 0.0

Hübner 0.0

Wilson: 2.6

Mu > 4.44? Or > 2.5 sec., if she ran sub 1:56 in july 2021. Only the slowest on that list improved mora than 2.5 secs. The average of the top 5 (bracketing the xy DSD question) is about 1 sec., the average of all 9 is 0.85 but this is obviously skewed by the two large improvements. The median value is 0.25 sec.!

Don't worry. She will run 1:54 this year.

Bower Woman wrote:

Don't worry. She will run 1:54 this year.

Dont give up your day job.

Jo72 wrote:

This list is interesting in a different way, namely in improvements between junior and lifetime PB (current for Diago and Wilson who could still improve their PB)

Jelimo: 0.0

Semenya 1.2

Niyonsaba 1.12

Körner (née Ullrich) 0.25

Mutola 2.44

Diago 0.0

Wühn 0.0

Hübner 0.0

Wilson: 2.6

Mu > 4.44? Or > 2.5 sec., if she ran sub 1:56 in july 2021. Only the slowest on that list improved mora than 2.5 secs. The average of the top 5 (bracketing the xy DSD question) is about 1 sec., the average of all 9 is 0.85 but this is obviously skewed by the two large improvements. The median value is 0.25 sec.!

Interesting work. As you have shown, exceptional achievement - especially at an early age - improves little upon itself.

Funny you should say that. I was able to retire at 45. Guessing you will have to work to 65. That may tell you something.

Bower Woman wrote:

Funny you should say that. I was able to retire at 45. Guessing you will have to work to 65. That may tell you something.

Your prediction tells me more.

The problem with comparing her to Ryun is they are different types of runner's, and Ryun trained unnaturally hard at a young age.

Mu likely has a much younger training age.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Bower Woman wrote:

Funny you should say that. I was able to retire at 45. Guessing you will have to work to 65. That may tell you something.

Your prediction tells me more.

Way too much thinking going on and Way too much information being regurgitated.

There is no reason NOT TO BELIEVE that Mu will run and can run 1:55 in a fast race in decent conditions, let alone ideal conditions this season. Give her a couple of years to mature and there's no reason she can't run 1:53...Clean! She clearly has the speed (the toughest to develop), once she improves her endurance it's GAME OVER!

"Go Run One"