reed wrote:
where did everybody hear about Mesa's 350' drop?
The race website advertises 350’ of net drop.
https://mesamarathon.com/plan-your-race/half-marathon/reed wrote:
where did everybody hear about Mesa's 350' drop?
The race website advertises 350’ of net drop.
https://mesamarathon.com/plan-your-race/half-marathon/GBohannon wrote:
reed wrote:
where did everybody hear about Mesa's 350' drop?
The race website advertises 350’ of net drop.
https://mesamarathon.com/plan-your-race/half-marathon/
Interesting. I was assuming that, too.
I just went and checked some Strava results (not the most accurate, I know) but I'm consistently seeing 150-160' for net drop. So . . . I don't know.
GBohannon wrote:
Jim Walmsley - no explanation required. He is the only non-top 10 type guy that is on EVERYONE's radar.
Yeah, I'm sure Rupp is losing sleep over Walmsley.
reed wrote:
where did everybody hear about Mesa's 350' drop? it's only about 150'...which is not that significant. Obviously not legal for records, but acceptable for hobbyjoggers to claim PBs.
My friend just beat my PB by a few seconds though, so obviously I'll tell him specifically that it was aided.
I doubt that the course was aided by more than 20-30 seconds though. Rupp still soloed a better half than any American ran at Houston in a huge pack.
Any word from Korir?
The race website claims 350 foot drop, “ Half marathon runners will experience nearly 350 feet of net elevation loss in this gentle downhill route that is great for a first time half marathon. ” But in reality it does not appear to have that much elevation loss.
https://mesamarathon.com/plan-your-race/half-marathon/Just that little race in Boston where he ran 2:09 and finished 2nd. Chris Derrick should also get a mention here in the second tier.
keepgoing wrote:
Nice write up. And I was happy to see Rupp get a good race in today. However, I do really think Ward's 61:36 at Houston was equal to, or better, than Rupp's race today.
Given Rupp's significantly faster PRs at all other distances, and the fact the course was quite downhill, makes me think he should have run significantly faster than Ward. Certainly more than 17 seconds.
I'm not quite ready to put Ward ahead of Rupp as the favorite. Although it's close. Does Rupp have any solid marathon results on hilly courses? Ward has quite a few.
Thanks, I did forget about that Boston year.
And the 2nd is super solid. But the time is right in line with Ward and Fauble for the course.
baby shark wrote:
Jayordon wrote:
Connor McMillan should be in that list too. Placed 4th at the USA championships in the 10k in 2019. Later in 2019, he placed top 10 at NYC 2019. 2:13 in his professional marathon debut.
Out with stress fracture.
That's the other BYU Conner, Mantz. As far as I know McMillan is fit.
pdxtheman wrote:
Just that little race in Boston where he ran 2:09 and finished 2nd.
Boston is 600 some feet net downhill. Hard to call that hilly. Yes I know it has a hill but I think the reasons that hill is a factor at all are more about the timing of it and that the rest of race loses so much elevation.
Good write up! Rupp is a lock. Will he still perform as well at the Olympics with coaching change etc? Prob not, but against 2:09-2:15 guys, not a problem.
Will be interesting to see how C Derrick comes back from the injury at CIM, would have loved to see what he would have run at Chicago.
Ritz would be 3rd tier at best on the list, if he was serious about competing for the spot he wouldn’t be running in Grand Rapids even during a fairly light winter for us. Stinson currently in the mitten doing mileage here too..
GBohannon wrote:
US_OT_THON_NATTY_thereal1 wrote:
Nowadays everybody wanna talk
like they got somethin to say
But nothin comes out
When they move their lips
Just a bunch of gibberish
And muthafuckaz act
like they forgot about
RITZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFcv5Ma8u8kAs a Michigan guy who first started running in 2001, I love everything about this.
BIG BUMP
There are three guys in the field who talent-wise are in a class by themselves: Rupp; Ritz; and Korir. They are the only three sub 2:09 (indeed, sub 2:08!) guys in the field, and, as we often hear (for whatever that is worth), talent does not go away. Also, experience helps in moments like the trials.
If Ritz has been healthy (always a big if), and he has been training over 100 mpw, and he doesn't cramp in the race (another big if), he will make the team, along with Rupp. Do not discount the cracker!
Malemute wrote:
baby shark wrote:
Out with stress fracture.
That's the other BYU Conner, Mantz. As far as I know McMillan is fit.
You’re totally correct. That’s my mistake.
Odd with no mention of Bumbalough, Derrick, or even Stinson. Is Ritz racing?
baby shark wrote:
Odd with no mention of Bumbalough, Derrick, or even Stinson. Is Ritz racing?
I am not sure if this is a reply to me, but I did mention Bumby and Stinson. Not sure if Ritz is racing. If healthy, I believe he could be a threat. Same with Derrick.
Rupp will run with the lead group at 2:12 pace until 10k to go. Then he will start running 4:30s and win it by 30 seconds at least. You heard it here first
Reed Fischer established himself by finished a second behind Ward, no? At least as a second tier guy?
I read that Rupp ran a three mile warmup and a six mile cool down with this race today. I'd assume that he probably could've run this race a bit faster too, but it was probably wise to hold back a little.
mo fan wrote:
Rupp will run with the lead group at 2:12 pace until 10k to go. Then he will start running 4:30s and win it by 30 seconds at least. You heard it here first
Clipping Walmsley's heels between miles 19-21!!
mo fan wrote:
Rupp will run with the lead group at 2:12 pace until 10k to go. Then he will start running 4:30s and win it by 30 seconds at least. You heard it here first
Yeah he’s got no reason not to sit and kick. He’s got to be the clear favorite as long as that Achilles is really not bothering him (and there’s no indication it is). I think I like the chances of Fauble over Ward, but that’ll be an interesting duel.
If rupp is truly healthy, he is the favorite. No one else is close. It appears he is in fact healthy.
I for one am hoping he is completely healthy.
reedfischer? wrote:
mo fan wrote:
Rupp will run with the lead group at 2:12 pace until 10k to go. Then he will start running 4:30s and win it by 30 seconds at least. You heard it here first
Yeah he’s got no reason not to sit and kick. He’s got to be the clear favorite as long as that Achilles is really not bothering him (and there’s no indication it is). I think I like the chances of Fauble over Ward, but that’ll be an interesting duel.
The purpose of the race is to qualify. For a guy who's won a Gold, Bronze and run a 26:44, a time on a hilly, one-off course in Atlanta is meaningless. He'll run with the leaders and ease away over the last couple of miles.