NCC wrote:
Typical fake tough guy steelers got called on their crap. Too bad for Myles that he took the bait but glad that steelers got exposed for being turds (Pouncey/Rudolph). Another Browns season in the drain, just as 5 - 1 or 6 -0 in the division was looking very realistic.
And Myles was really stupid for taking it that far, despite getting kicked in the junk and having his helmet almost torn off first.
I watched the NFL’s condensed game summary on YouTube and it excluded the whole brawl.
Safe to say the league will be disciplining a few folks here with the worst sanction, by far, going to Garrett. Minimum multiple game suspension.
Kapernick’s so-called tryout Saturday seems slightly more real now.
Garett got trolled effectively tarnishing a pinnacle moment in Brown's franchise history.
Overpaid rapists and thugs. What did you expect?
I'll throw out a few facts in no order, from where I sit:
-Both guys were exceptionally frustrated. Garrett, one of the top handful of defesive guys in the league, was quiet all game
and when he did break free to the QB he was held. Season has been far from what Browns thought and bragged
about.
-Rudolph was terrible all game with poor reads, horrible passes, and when he did throw a decent pass, 2 of 3 were dropped.
Season has been terrible by squeeking out a few ref enhanced wins and losing close ones to better teams. Both teams
likely feel they are far superior to the other.
-Garrett should not have followed through to take him down since the pass was long gone. If that was Brady or Brees flags
from everywhere would have been raining down. I don't have a problem with it, but 'usually' refs do to control things.
-Rudolph threw his hands up as an appeal to the refs, not in a scared fashion although Garrett could/would have buried him
with or without a helmet in his hand.
-DeCastro (#66) simply threw Garrett to the ground and held him down to end things. Obviously the smartest guy in it all.
-Pouncy has always had a rep as a hot head, dirty if he can get away with it, from college to now. He likes that rep so he goes
the cheap way of throwing punches & kick he knew would be negligible but pad his own perceived tough-guy rep. It also
probably sits well with his teammates that he "has their back," whatever that means.
-Probably overall good for both franchises since this "rivalry" really has been dead for many years. Makes future games
interesting when neither team is surrently very good.
#53 was kicking the browns offender in the head. Wtf????
Steeler Fan wrote:
I'll throw out a few facts in no order, from where I sit:
-Both guys were exceptionally frustrated. Garrett, one of the top handful of defesive guys in the league, was quiet all game and when he did break free to the QB he was held. Season has been far from what Browns thought and bragged
about.
-Rudolph was terrible all game with poor reads, horrible passes, and when he did throw a decent pass, 2 of 3 were dropped. Season has been terrible by squeeking out a few ref enhanced wins and losing close ones to better teams. Both teams likely feel they are far superior to the other.
-Garrett should not have followed through to take him down since the pass was long gone. If that was Brady or Brees flags from everywhere would have been raining down. I don't have a problem with it, but 'usually' refs do to control things.
-Rudolph threw his hands up as an appeal to the refs, not in a scared fashion although Garrett could/would have buried him with or without a helmet in his hand.
-DeCastro (#66) simply threw Garrett to the ground and held him down to end things. Obviously the smartest guy in it all.
-Pouncy has always had a rep as a hot head, dirty if he can get away with it, from college to now. He likes that rep so he goes the cheap way of throwing punches & kick he knew would be negligible but pad his own perceived tough-guy rep. It also probably sits well with his teammates that he "has their back," whatever that means.
-Probably overall good for both franchises since this "rivalry" really has been dead for many years. Makes future games
interesting when neither team is surrently very good.
Some decent points although the dump pass got off just as Myles got to the QB. I believe he had no clue the qb didn't have the ball, as it didn't really look like he was going to throw it. Probably would have been a flag on a more protected qb but not a dirty play or a late hit or rough tackle.
Myles was getting constant pressure in the backfield all game, driving the guy blocking him back 5+ feet on numerous occasions.
DeCastro did the right thing and things could have gotten worse if he didn't do that as Pouncey might have actually tried to do something more serious.
Myles might get banned for more than this season and deserves it.
B
Let's not forget the two helmet to helmet hits against Schuster and Johnson too. I get that it's totally hip and trendy to hate on the Steelers but Johnson left bleeding out of his ear. Also; it's the browns it's a miracle that franchise wasn't cut from the NFL years ago.
Leave it the BROWNS to club a back up QB.
NCC wrote:
Some decent points although the dump pass got off just as Myles got to the QB. I believe he had no clue the qb didn't have the ball, as it didn't really look like he was going to throw it. Probably would have been a flag on a more protected qb but not a dirty play or a late hit or rough tackle.
Myles was getting constant pressure in the backfield all game, driving the guy blocking him back 5+ feet on numerous occasions.
DeCastro did the right thing and things could have gotten worse if he didn't do that as Pouncey might have actually tried to do something more serious.
Myles might get banned for more than this season and deserves it.
B
Addressing your points, all of which are accurate in my eyes:
-I was not inferring taking down Rudolph was illegal, just that when QBs are expected to be protected and are not in the context of a terrible game, they get frustrated.
-Myles was making good pushes but not getting there. Sacks is their goal whether it is very meaningful in the context of wins/losses for their individual status. Garrett was not getting there or being held, so frustrated.
-Who knows what Pouncy would have done. "The right thing" is not always his m.o.
-I foresee a 2-3 game suspension. At least two since the Browns play at Pittsburgh in two weeks and without saying that is their (NFL) intent, they will want to keep him out of that one. What I have seen of Garrett, this will not be an issue going forward. He is easily frustrated on the field, but not a Suh or some of the other truly dirty players.
MYLES GARRETT IS THE NEW TURKEY JONES BABY!
Yinzers and anyone from that toothless hillbilly town can eat my taint.
The Steelers have been, BY FAR, the dirtiest low-life thug team in the NFL for decades. Because the Rooney family is so tight with the league they get a pass over and over again. One name for you: James Harrison.
The Browns released decades of suffering tonight. If anything, Myles is a sort of Jesus figure who will pay for the sins of bad football with his own season.
Yinzer trash, we own you now.
WhyRegisterHere? wrote:
MYLES GARRETT IS THE NEW TURKEY JONES BABY!
Yinzers and anyone from that toothless hillbilly town can eat my taint.
The Steelers have been, BY FAR, the dirtiest low-life thug team in the NFL for decades. Because the Rooney family is so tight with the league they get a pass over and over again. One name for you: James Harrison.
The Browns released decades of suffering tonight. If anything, Myles is a sort of Jesus figure who will pay for the sins of bad football with his own season.
Yinzer trash, we own you now.
You don't aim very high do you? Do you also hang your hat on the one year your XC team didn't finish last in your conference?
James Harrison? When did he remove his helmet and swing it?
Released decades of suffering? A win or two per decade is healing suffering?
It is fun to follow and root for a team, but you are actually identifying a team's on-field performance with "suffering" and your own identity? Ouch! Good luck with that.
Conundrum wrote:
Looks like a case of assault with a deadly weapon. Striking a player in the head with a helmut, isn't just a football infraction.
It should have legal consequences.
Lol
Myles Garrett is a dumb jagoff!
" but not a Suh or some of the other truly dirty players"
Didn't he take out Simien with his second roughing the passer penalty of the first half in the Jets game? Dude is cheap, just hasn't been called out yet.
Wow, a little beta soy boy, and from Pisssberg? You got a little taste of real AFC Central/North football, a figurative (and literal) punch in the throat last night. Hope it tastes great because there will be more, on your own field, two weeks from now. Players bleeding from the ear, concussions, true gladiatorial struggle, and for once the Browns weren't the punk biitches on the field, you were. Yes, Myles is now our Jesus. You are going to feel more pain in two weeks. Now you can carry on with your woke, SJW commentary on the horrors of the moment and of professional football.
Steeler Fan wrote:
You don't aim very high do you? Do you also hang your hat on the one year your XC team didn't finish last in your conference?
James Harrison? When did he remove his helmet and swing it?
Released decades of suffering? A win or two per decade is healing suffering?
It is fun to follow and root for a team, but you are actually identifying a team's on-field performance with "suffering" and your own identity? Ouch! Good luck with that.
LOL the Browns AKA Superbowl champions of 2020 beat the Steelers 2nd string offense. High fives all around.
WhyRegisterHere? wrote:
Wow, a little beta soy boy, and from Pisssberg?
You got a little taste of real AFC Central/North football, a figurative (and literal) punch in the throat last night. Hope it tastes great because there will be more, on your own field, two weeks from now.
Players bleeding from the ear, concussions, true gladiatorial struggle, and for once the Browns weren't the punk biitches on the field, you were.
Yes, Myles is now our Jesus. You are going to feel more pain in two weeks.
Now you can carry on with your woke, SJW commentary on the horrors of the moment and of professional football.
Literacy is your friend.
Hell Moot wrote:
Conundrum wrote:
Looks like a case of assault with a deadly weapon. Striking a player in the head with a helmut, isn't just a football infraction.
It should have legal consequences.
Lol
If he had actually done damages, then he might face legal consequences (albeit only in a civil suit). The closest incident I can think of in the NFL that would be comparable to this would be when Romanowski ripped his teammates helmet off at a practice and punched him in the face breaking his orbital bone. He had to pay $350,000 in a civil suit. Garrett will end up paying far more in fines and lost game checks. Hockey fights are far worse and I can't think of many incidents of guys facing legal consequences outside of the league. Professional wrestlers have to be the worst though, as they are constantly hitting guys with folding chairs and I can't think of an incident where an athlete has faced legal consequences, let alone missed a single match :)
As far as hitting someone with a helmet, I think hitting someone with an ear hole would be worse than hitting someone with the crown of the helmet as the impact force would be concentrated over a much smaller area, which would be more likely to cause a fracture.
joedirt wrote:
If he had actually done damages, then he might face legal consequences (albeit only in a civil suit).
There have been several in the NHL, the most prominent was Todd Bertuzzi.
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2016/02/09/some-notable-on-ice-incidents-that-led-to-criminal-charges/