Since he is good at running in hot weather, he may be well-suited to the Olympic Trials marathon in Atlanta early next year. If it is warm, this is a race where 3rd place might be something like 2:14. I wouldn't call him a favorite, but surely Dathan has an outside shot at making the team.
even for a workout wrote:
you're whacked dude wrote:
With that weather and being out on his own, that was a solid effort. Grow a pair loser.
13 at marathon pace barely registers as a beneficial workout. Either he's not in shape or he ran a moderate workout, either way he should not be congratulated.
This is such a trash take. Have you trained for & run a marathon? 10-16 @ MP or variations breaking that kind of volume into 2,3,4 mile segments is the bread & butter of marathon training. he's 12 weeks out. he put in 13.1 @ marathon effort. we have no idea if he ran a light workout afterwards or if he backed off the mileage at all coming in.
I agree with the last person that he is going to be a contender. can't count out someone as talented as he is. I will say, however, that the heat in LA seemed to get the better of him. Atlanta should be a little more bearable but still warm. a 2:14ish could place 3rd.
Atlanta isn't that bad in February.
BergLaufer wrote:
Atlanta isn't that bad in February.
2 points.
1. February 29th is pretty much March
2. Race will start at Noon
I've got $300 that says he'll make the team. He's smarter than a lot of you seem to think. Missing 3 by 8 seconds in 2012 and having health issues in 2016...he's got a lot of talent and will be going for it. I say he makes the team.
even for a workout wrote:
you're whacked dude wrote:
With that weather and being out on his own, that was a solid effort. Grow a pair loser.
13 at marathon pace barely registers as a beneficial workout. Either he's not in shape or he ran a moderate workout, either way he should not be congratulated.
How far would you have to run at marathon pace for you to consider it "a beneficial workout"? 18 miles? 20 miles? 25 miles?
You don't seem to know what you are talking about. Whereas Ritz has run 13:44 as a HSer, 13:27 as a college frosh, and 12:56 for the AR.
High Noon wrote:
BergLaufer wrote:
Atlanta isn't that bad in February.
2 points.
1. February 29th is pretty much March
2. Race will start at Noon
I have ran races in Georgia in early March, not bad. Doesn't get that bad till around April-May(and is a living inferno till October). It will more than likely be about mid 50s to upper 60s. A little humid. Maybe a little too warm for some liking. But not bad running conditions at all.
https://www.usclimatedata.com/climate/georgia/united-states/3180I'm sure Ritz's race told him something about where he is on the basis of what he's already done, which should help him in preparing for October: nothing more, nothing less. As for Atlanta, as long as he gets the standard in October, the course fits him, as he is anything but a rhythm runner. He only needs to stay away from cramps (apparently easier said than done). As to the weather, Hansons will certainly spend at least a month in Florida leading up to the trials, so I think Ritz will be prepared on that front.
Michiganian wrote:
I've got $300 that says he'll make the team. He's smarter than a lot of you seem to think. Missing 3 by 8 seconds in 2012 and having health issues in 2016...he's got a lot of talent and will be going for it. I say he makes the team.
Dude, I agree!!!!
Wow! That guy is amazing. The surgery on his heal and achilles was major. To come back in 9 months shows you his determination and grit.
Go Galen!
Montesquieu wrote:
64:22. Second was 65:17; and third was 70:58.
In other words, Jim Walmsley (1:04:00 half off very little specific half marathon training) is currently faster than Ritz?!
Far Out West wrote:
Please explain why? Marathon pace workout in crappy conditions and probably a nice pay day? Seems good to me.
Back in the day this was common. Top runners winning 10k's in "slow times- collecting money, mingling with the local runners after the race. It was a good scene and part of the reason running was popular in the late 70's/80's.
Now, runners seem to race fewer times, they aren't getting any media attention.
Not good for the sport.
Michiganian wrote:
I've got $300 that says he'll make the team. He's smarter than a lot of you seem to think. Missing 3 by 8 seconds in 2012 and having health issues in 2016...he's got a lot of talent and will be going for it. I say he makes the team.
I'm thinking you're right. Ritz, Rupp, and one other guy who has his best day that day.
runn wrote:
Michiganian wrote:
I've got $300 that says he'll make the team. He's smarter than a lot of you seem to think. Missing 3 by 8 seconds in 2012 and having health issues in 2016...he's got a lot of talent and will be going for it. I say he makes the team.
I'm thinking you're right. Ritz, Rupp, and one other guy who has his best day that day.
Truth be told, I've now got 2 $300 bets from fellow runners in Michigan, I'm all in on Dathan! He's had some very bad luck, but the stars will align come February 29th, 2020.
runn wrote:
Michiganian wrote:
I've got $300 that says he'll make the team. He's smarter than a lot of you seem to think. Missing 3 by 8 seconds in 2012 and having health issues in 2016...he's got a lot of talent and will be going for it. I say he makes the team.
I'm thinking you're right. Ritz, Rupp, and one other guy who has his best day that day.
I agree as well.
Ritz will be ready come 2020. I see him as having a solid shot at 3rd.
Jim > Ritz wrote:
Montesquieu wrote:
64:22. Second was 65:17; and third was 70:58.
In other words, Jim Walmsley (1:04:00 half off very little specific half marathon training) is currently faster than Ritz?!
Jim ran 1:04-flat in January, Ritz ran 1:01:24 in February. Ritz ran a half in 1:04:22 in 70+ degrees w./ 90+% humidity 12 weeks out from his goal marathon.
W
So Hanson's key workout is 25k at marathon pace in ideal conditions three weeks before a marathon but for you 21k at marathon pace, in less than ideal conditions, 12 weeks out doesn't register as a workout? There is a huge difference between running a marathon and racing a marathon. You BQ guys are running a marathon, guys like Ritz are racing it. They can't just go out the front door at marathon pace. This is a perfectly fine starting point for Ritz to begin his training for Chicago. However, now that the top three at the trials qualify for the Oly team regardless of time I wonder if he should even run Chicago. He probably needs the pay day but as frail as he is I'm not sure if the risk of injury is worth it.
even for a workout wrote:
you're whacked dude wrote:
With that weather and being out on his own, that was a solid effort. Grow a pair loser.
13 at marathon pace barely registers as a beneficial workout. Either he's not in shape or he ran a moderate workout, either way he should not be congratulated.
Far Out West wrote:
So Hanson's key workout is 25k at marathon pace in ideal conditions three weeks before a marathon but for you 21k at marathon pace, in less than ideal conditions, 12 weeks out doesn't register as a workout? There is a huge difference between running a marathon and racing a marathon. You BQ guys are running a marathon, guys like Ritz are racing it. They can't just go out the front door at marathon pace. This is a perfectly fine starting point for Ritz to begin his training for Chicago. However, now that the top three at the trials qualify for the Oly team regardless of time I wonder if he should even run Chicago. He probably needs the pay day but as frail as he is I'm not sure if the risk of injury is worth it.
even for a workout wrote:
13 at marathon pace barely registers as a beneficial workout. Either he's not in shape or he ran a moderate workout, either way he should not be congratulated.
He needs the time at Chicago in case he doesn't run 2:11:30 in Atlanta but still places 3rd...then he wouldn't be able to run in Tokyo.
even for a workout wrote:
you're whacked dude wrote:
With that weather and being out on his own, that was a solid effort. Grow a pair loser.
13 at marathon pace barely registers as a beneficial workout. Either he's not in shape or he ran a moderate workout, either way he should not be congratulated.
0/10.