Dan Lilot wrote:
Filbert Bayi
1:45.32
3:32.16 WR, CG Gold
3:51.0 WR
7:39.27
13:18.2
8:12.48 OG Silver
Why are you posting this?
Dan Lilot wrote:
Filbert Bayi
1:45.32
3:32.16 WR, CG Gold
3:51.0 WR
7:39.27
13:18.2
8:12.48 OG Silver
Why are you posting this?
not to rip on the kid, but he could easily pass as 20/21.
compare to centrowitz in high school, who looked literally 14/15 when he was a senior
explain yourself please wrote:
Dan Lilot wrote:
Filbert Bayi
1:45.32
3:32.16 WR, CG Gold
3:51.0 WR
7:39.27
13:18.2
8:12.48 OG Silver
Why are you posting this?
He recorded all those times before competing (albeit briefly) in the NCAA. Isn't that what this thread was about?
Dan Lilot wrote:
explain yourself please wrote:
Why are you posting this?
He recorded all those times before competing (albeit briefly) in the NCAA. Isn't that what this thread was about?
Correct, he started at OU, then transferred to UTEP.
This past NCAA season was a good one for Australia and New Zealand. McDonald winning numerous titles, Hull as a force and who can forget kiwi Beamish coming from nowhere to win the indoor 1500 and Australia having 4 athletes make the NCAA 1500m outdoor finals.
As I predicted McDonald to win NCAA XC in a past post I will make another one. There could be a significant rivalry starting in the next few years between the aussies and the kiwis at NCAA. There will be a Aussie/kiwi and not in that particular order 1-2 finish in an NCAA champs over 1500m in the next four years. Tanner is starting at Washington and the aussie runner will be running for Princeton this fall.
Tanner will be fine, he only runs about 50km a week and is pretty much in easy mode the whole time during training. Plenty of scope for improvement.
Progressions wrote:
-Slagowski is MIA. Abducted by UFOs?
Slagowski spent a semester and a half at Penn State where he was a redshirt for XC and indoor because of injury. Transferred to an NAIA school (Eastern Oregon) where he took second in the indoor mile at 2018 nationals. Best times he could muster were 1:53 800m, 3:59 1500m, and 4:10 mile. Just never could get fully recovered from injuries I guess. Overtraining in high school? He didn't race during the 2019 season, and is no longer listed on the roster. I'd bet he's done for good. Feel bad for him
Dan Lilot wrote:
Filbert Bayi
1:45.32
3:32.16 WR, CG Gold
3:51.0 WR
7:39.27
13:18.2
8:12.48 OG Silver
There's your winner.
YMMV wrote:
Williamsz redeemed everything else he did or didn't do in college with this 200m of running:
(go to 15:00):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH5Qd0I7KaA
That puts a huge smile on my face. As does this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7FFJUz0tdoYMMV wrote:
His 5th at Sydney 2000 was likely the first place of clean athletes.
GTFOH
I had no idea that Bayi went the NCAA route in his 30s.
Does anyone know how good he was? I don't think he made NCAAs either year.
Tilastopaja lists no results and I don't see him in the NCAA record book.
coahc wrote:
There will be a Aussie/kiwi and not in that particular order 1-2 finish in an NCAA champs over 1500m in the next four years. Tanner is starting at Washington and the aussie runner will be running for Princeton this fall.
You're forgetting the American that won this year as a true sophomore - he'll likely be in the mix.
He ran 4:02.12 & 13:46.10 indoors for UTEP in '84.
Above is referring to Filbert Bayi.
Rojo, a little more background information for you. As noted below, Bayi was redshirting outdoors in 1984 and then...
https://www.nytimes.com/1984/04/29/sports/has-a-big-time-track-program-gone-too-big.html
Lets be rational wrote:
The Starved Elephant wrote:
Looks like Fisher and Ryun are the only ones to ever win anything.
So winning nationals is the only measure of success?
It must really suck to be you then...
It's hardly the only measure of success, but I think that's what rojo was referring to. I think the point is that if you are one of the ten best recruits all-time, you certainly have aspirations of winning a national title. Only 3 guys did so.
helpfulhands wrote:
coahc wrote:
There will be a Aussie/kiwi and not in that particular order 1-2 finish in an NCAA champs over 1500m in the next four years. Tanner is starting at Washington and the aussie runner will be running for Princeton this fall.
You're forgetting the American that won this year as a true sophomore - he'll likely be in the mix.
Who is the Aussie that is going to Princeton?
Age matters. Ryun, Liquori and Fisher were the youngest three on the list to break 4. Ryun and Liquori were 17 for their first sub-4s. Fisher was slightly younger than Webb, who went on to do all right, though he didn't win an NCAA.
Maton, Slagowski and Brown would all have been normal age college freshman when they broke 4.
And the foreign athletes were/are also over-aged by normal American HS standards.
Older you are, less meaningful it is to run sub-4 before college as a predictor of future success.
Bayi by a mile. Also, Michael Cherono, Simon Kilili, Nyambui, Marc Oleson were all sub four before college.
Sydney Maree and Michael Cherono were both faster than Tanner before going to college.