It's time for Sage to concentrate on 100k-100 mile races, if he wants to remain relevant in the ultrarunning world. There are lots of younger and faster guys now jumping into shorter ultras. I don't think he's getting back his speed( age and several years of heavy racing). It's not due to training mistakes like he keeps rationalizing. He's aged as a runner. It happens. The athlete is usually the last to realize it.
cb wrote:
It's time for Sage to concentrate on 100k-100 mile races, if he wants to remain relevant in the ultrarunning world. There are lots of younger and faster guys now jumping into shorter ultras. I don't think he's getting back his speed( age and several years of heavy racing). It's not due to training mistakes like he keeps rationalizing. He's aged as a runner. It happens. The athlete is usually the last to realize it.
Doubtful. He shouldn’t regress that much yet. I bet if he just got a coach he would improve, like all of us. Self-training has many blind spots.
Anyone know what the testing system is like for Comrades or in SA more specifically?
zoomzoomzoom wrote:
CapeEpic wrote:
Gerda Steyn ran sub 6 hours breaking the up run record by over 10 minutes. In Comrades this is the greatest performance in the 98 year history of the race
hmmm what's 4% of a six hour race (hint: it's just over 10 minutes)
boing boing boing boing (note at end of 54 mile race uphill)
Zoomzoomzoom - we all know that you like to suck off young boys and that your dad is a convicted rapist. Added to this you’re a 27 minute 5k guy that has AIDS. We all laugh at you as we run in our 4%ers. You’re a cancerous little turd. Yes, you’re a turd.
Cmon bro get with it wrote:
At super long distances women are just about as good as men
Educate yourself, fool. Regardless of distance the difference is about 10 %.
All spin aside, Sage got chicked. It doesn't matter if he got 2nd, 20th or 200th, Sage is slower than a woman.
chicked wrote:
All spin aside, Sage got chicked. It doesn't matter if he got 2nd, 20th or 200th, Sage is slower than a woman.
In his defense, Sage wasn't wearing Nike Vaporfly like Gerda Steyn was. Further evidence of Vaporfly "illegalness" if you needed it.
Courtney wins just about every 200 mile event she enters. She has won Moab and Tahod each twice in a row.
chicked wrote:
All spin aside, Sage got chicked. It doesn't matter if he got 2nd, 20th or 200th, Sage is slower than a woman.
But he wins, because you're talking about him;)
Btw, Courtney just won a mountain marathon outright this weekend by over 30 minutes compared the 2nd place dude. So I guess it doesn't even need to be a long race.
The marathon had 45 participants.
HokaCarbonX26.2 wrote:
It is not a marathon. It is a 86.83km ultramarathon. Anything can happen and normally does happen during these races, especially with all the travel, time change, and diet issues. It isn’t like this a flat Chicago Marathon.
At flat Chicago, it's likely that Sage would get chicked as well. Truth.
Dennis Kimetto hasn't beaten ANY women in his last 3 marathons!!!!!
AP5000 wrote:
Courtney wins just about every 200 mile event she enters. She has won Moab and Tahod each twice in a row.
Courtney has won Moab outright once. She hasn't won Tahoe outright. She is faster than nearly all men, but if a bunch of guys at her equivalent level are racing (François, Kilian, Xavier etc.) then she's unlikely to beat them.
AP5000 wrote:
Btw, Courtney just won a mountain marathon outright this weekend by over 30 minutes compared the 2nd place dude. So I guess it doesn't even need to be a long race.
No it just needs a weak field.
You are correct, my bad. She lost Tahoe 200 by 27 minutes but she and the winner were over 10 hours ahead of the 3rd place finisher.
AP5000 wrote:
Btw, Courtney just won a mountain marathon outright this weekend by over 30 minutes compared the 2nd place dude. So I guess it doesn't even need to be a long race.
Courtney is a fantastic runner, but Walmsley beat her by almost 3 hours at Western States last year (17% faster).
She does seem to be even stronger at 200’s. I’d like to see her try Tor des Geants.
I didn't pay attention to who else or how many ran it. I stopped caring after I saw she beat every other runner by at least 30 minutes for 26.2 miles.
Of course he would beat her in those 100 miles (WSER). He's the best in the world in that kind of race.
I do agree it would be great to see her at Tour de Geant. She did great against D'Haene and Tollefson a couple months ago on Madeira. The more vertical the better she does. When she's in a 100 or more mile race she isn't racing the women (it's already over) she's racing the men. I'm not sure there is any other female who can do that. Camille has success previously but she is super inconsistent and is pretty much limited to flat road and track racing.
AP5000 wrote:
I didn't pay attention to who else or how many ran it. I stopped caring after I saw she beat every other runner by at least 30 minutes for 26.2 miles.
So what?
I’m still dreaming of a BQ, but could find a marathon I could win by more than 30 minutes if I wanted
Cool, she found a really uncompetitive marathon!