Jakob Ingebrigtsen takes down WR holder Samuel Tefera (and his big brother) in battle of teenage stars in Dusseldorf 1500

Indoor season is not taken all that seriously other than in the US.

Jakob has shown through a 3:31 at 17 an extreme talent that surpasses Tefera, Soget and G Managoi.

westsouthrunner wrote:

Great Clean Hope wrote:

The main reason for this is the “Great White Hope” effect. It is reasonable to say that the Ingibrigies could potentially win, because they are good, and nobody knows what condition everybody will be showing up in. But those guys are heavily favored here because they are white-especially Jakob, who is really, REALLY lauded as the Great White Hope to beat the Africans.

I figured as much. I looked Filip up and he's run 7:49 this year. 3:30 last year outdoors and has a indoor PB of 3:42.

Great Clean Hope wrote: More like the Great Clean Hope to beat the EPO age cheats.

I am very sure he has been tested as the reigning indoor champ and new world record holder. He is showing more potential than Jakob at this age

Even if you believe his age, he's a year older than Jakob. He hasn't done anything outdoors yet and was thrashed by Jakob at the World Juniors.

All we can say at the moment is in the last two years he's the best in the world twice for one month at the end of a winter spent in Ethiopia.

Rupp 7.5 cm Model 1986 wrote:

https://www.leichtathletik.de/fileadmin/user_upload/03_Termine/Top-Events/PSD_Bank_Meeting_Duesseldorf/2019_Duesseldorf_Zeitplan.jpg

Central European Time

Thanks for that. That's 12:30pm mountain then. Perfect on my lunch break.

spade detector wrote:

westsouthrunner wrote:

I do not watch or really keep up with the Ingebrigtsen guys since I mainly watch US Runners or people who train here lol. But Am I missing something about Filip? Does he win races he shouldn't win? I would think everyone would pick the New world record holder to win but no one is.

Certainly Tefera could win, but I don’t think he will be at his best in a race a few days after setting the World Record, and Filip is no slouch as a World Championships bronze medalist.

I think there are several in the field that could potentially win. Something uncommon during indoors, and exciting.

Put another way...going into Birmingham, Kejelcha had just run .01 off the mile WR whereas Tefera had only run a 3:35.57 1500m this year, and yet it was Tefera that came out on top. I could see him having a similar letdown after such a big race just a few days ago.

westsouthrunner wrote:

Trondheim wrote:

Hope Tefera goes with Som; but he likely will not. I think in that scenario, youre correct in picking Filip I. for the win.

I do not watch or really keep up with the Ingebrigtsen guys since I mainly watch US Runners or people who train here lol. But Am I missing something about Filip? Does he win races he shouldn't win? I would think everyone would pick the New world record holder to win but no one is.

The Ingebrigtsens train often in Flagstaff.

Semiler wrote:

Indoor season is not taken all that seriously other than in the US.

Jakob has shown through a 3:31 at 17 an extreme talent that surpasses Tefera, Soget and G Managoi.

Tefera 3:31 indoors WR over EL G age 19

Indoor World Title at age 18

Started running 2 years ago competitively.

Yes he lost to Jakob last year at the U20 championships but neither one won the race.

Jakob has also ran 13:17 but I do not think that surpasses a World Record.

I think it's great that the Ingebrigtsens have put Norway on the map again in distance running, but I'm gonna say Tefera wins this one. The Ingebrigtsens just got back from altitude and are probably not in super racing shape yet. Tefera on the other hand has raced a couple of times this year.

westsouthrunner wrote:

Semiler wrote:

Indoor season is not taken all that seriously other than in the US.

Jakob has shown through a 3:31 at 17 an extreme talent that surpasses Tefera, Soget and G Managoi.

Tefera 3:31 indoors WR over EL G age 19

Indoor World Title at age 18

Started running 2 years ago competitively.

Yes he lost to Jakob last year at the U20 championships but neither one won the race.

Jakob has also ran 13:17 but I do not think that surpasses a World Record.

If you’re trying to compare who’s the better runner, the time he started running doesn’t support you at all. You could say maybe he’s got more potential or talent since he started training later, but as of right now the better runner is based on present achievements.

That being said, I think this issue is probably going to be decided outdoors. Jakob has the edge right now in my mind simply because he’s got more credentials; he’s a double European champion and beat Tefera at World Juniors. However, you could argue that he’s not a world champion like Tefera, but then again on the flip side you can argue that indoors is not as competitive as outdoors. Time-wise, they’re obviously very even, but I might give the nod to Tefera since he broke an El G record and Jakob ran his PR in historically-fast Monaco. BUT to play devil’s advocate again, El G’s world record came on an inferior track so who knows what it’s really “worth” on today’s surfaces with a perfect pacemaker like Kejelcha, so maybe Tefera’s run is not as impressive as it sounds.

That kind of back-and-forth debate can go on forever, so really I don’t think there’s a clear “better runner” at the moment, just up to you to decide on your own. Personally, I think Jakob’s the better runner AT THE MOMENT. Indoors though, Tefera gets the W.

I think George will be better than both, but time will tell.

I'm a global running fan. This family, "Ingbrigsten's" I've watched on the YT. With language barrier I comprehend this family as living a training camp lifestyle but with modern amenities...

***When is the Broadcast/coverage??! Brojos please publicize

NOway!! wrote:

Seems to be geo-blocked here in Norway, even if the IAAF says the stream should be available in "just about every country of the planet"....

It's geo-blocked in just 3 countries - Germany, Denmark and Norway. It's on TV in those countries - Eurosport in Germany, don't know about the other two.

Go, Laura! wrote:

NOway!! wrote:

Seems to be geo-blocked here in Norway, even if the IAAF says the stream should be available in "just about every country of the planet"....

It's geo-blocked in just 3 countries - Germany, Denmark and Norway. It's on TV in those countries - Eurosport in Germany, don't know about the other two.

Hmm.. Can't seem to find it on any major channel.

Semiler wrote:

Indoor season is not taken all that seriously other than in the US.

Gebrselassie, Pedroso, Bubka, and Sotomayor.

Also the whole sport of Athletics isn’t “taken all that seriously” by whatever arbitrary definition you were going for.

Tefera will destroy the field.......Including the cheating Ingebrigtsen Trio!!!

LOCK IT IN!!!

Our previews is up now:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2019/02/another-great-1500-on-tap-in-dusseldorf-wr-holder-samuel-tefera-vs-all-three-ingebrigtsens/

It was reported yesterday in Norwegian

media that Henrik is out of the race. The article says nothing is wrong, but he need the next to weeks to focus on the europeam champis.

https://www.tv2.no/sport/10425369/

westsouthrunner wrote:

Semiler wrote:

Indoor season is not taken all that seriously other than in the US.

Jakob has shown through a 3:31 at 17 an extreme talent that surpasses Tefera, Soget and G Managoi.

Tefera 3:31 indoors WR over EL G age 19

Indoor World Title at age 18

Started running 2 years ago competitively.

Yes he lost to Jakob last year at the U20 championships but neither one won the race.

Jakob has also ran 13:17 but I do not think that surpasses a World Record.

Some here saying that Jacob will break the world junior record. Isn't Tefera's time also the World Junior Record since he is only 19?

That aside, I think Tefera is going to lose not only to one Ingebrigtsen, but to all three. Expect a 1-2-3 for the Ingebrigtsens. As we saw in the world Junior last year, Tefera gets confused when the pace is not fast. If he decides to follow the pacer, he will be reeled in and get outkicked. If he stays behind with everyone else, his fate is the same. I feel for him. The times will not be very fast but more like 3:34.

In Denmark the event can be seen on TV 2 Sport.

There is no way Tefera is 19, he looks older than me and I'm middle-aged